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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 01-23-2012, 07:47 PM
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Wiper Blade Guide?

1. Do I need to to buy separately the wiper blade guide part number #61618162982 or it comes with the Wiper Blades ? please, dont suggest refil i prefer whole blades.

2. Are there better wiper blades than the OEM ones ? Sun in California is too strong and it burns my wiper blades each year. I've heard there are some teflon wiper blade that could resistt the sun burn.

Any suggestion? Please take attention mostly to #1 which is my primary questions.


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Old 01-24-2012, 06:51 AM
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1. Do I need to to buy separately the wiper blade guide
If you're talking about the two steel guides that come with the wiper inserts, the simple answer is that the steel guides come with some wiper inserts and don't come with others. You have to ask what you're getting.

Most people will tell you the best place to get the wiper inserts with the two steel guides are at the dealer but others will tell you to go online depending on how bad their stealer is.
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:58 AM
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1. Do I need to to buy separately the wiper blade guide part number #61618162982 or it comes with the Wiper Blades ? please, dont suggest refil i prefer whole blades.

2. Are there better wiper blades than the OEM ones ? Sun in California is too strong and it burns my wiper blades each year. I've heard there are some teflon wiper blade that could resistt the sun burn.

Any suggestion? Please take attention mostly to #1 which is my primary questions.


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No...you don't "have" to get the part nbr you mentioned (it's #5 in the diagram below)...unless you happen to want a new one for some reason.

The wiper blade is #1 in the diagram...and the refill (which you don't want) is #2 in the diagram. You can look for a replacement #1...good luck...I believe I've read that some have found an aftermarket replacement blade...but whatever you find (BMW or aftermarket)...it should clip on to #5 with #4 (the clip):


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Old 01-24-2012, 09:20 AM
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1. Do I need to to buy separately the wiper blade guide part number #61618162982 or it comes with the Wiper Blades ? please, dont suggest refil i prefer whole blades.
- Whole wiper assembly ---> Autohausaz.com sells a set of 2 for $34.
Bosch OEM.

- Refill ---> $10 for a set of 2 at BMW dealer.

I am not sure why you don't want refill. Believe it or not, the wiper assembly in my car is from 1998, only the refills have been changed every 2 years or so.
You are in Sacramento with lots of sun, just change the refill every 2 years or so.
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:33 AM
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Can we not get the new rain x blades that only connect on the center blade and don't have 5 different points of contact.

http://www.rainx.com/mobile/

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Old 01-24-2012, 10:25 AM
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Nope. See Q's diagram for references. The e39 uses a proprietary method (part #4 ) for connecting the blade (part 1) to the arm (part 5). It does not use the universal hooks so you can't run beam ty(pe replacements bosch icons or those rain x blades) as no company offers those blades with an e39 specific connection.

Bosch does make a replacement blade (still has all those points of contact not beam type) specific to the e39, but I don't really recommend it as it lacks the ability to use the inexpensive inserts. I don't think the e39 bosch replacements really perform any different than the oem ones. I know as I have run them both, due to the stupid indy put bosch replacements on my car instead of replacing the inserts on my oem blades.

I know it may seem crazy as one of the first things I wanted to do when I got my e39 was install bosch icons as I had had them for 5yrs (2sets) on my e28. Its kinda bizzare that I can run a newer blade design on my 1987 e38 versus my 2003 e39.

In truth the oem e39 blades work extremely well and the insert are extremely cheap. It is a much cheaper repalcement than any other blade system. Having run the bosch icons on my e28 for years and having had the e39 for 2yrs I would say the icons last longer and stay quieter longer. Issue of lifting at speed is about equal as the e39 set up has spoilers. I think the icons might have the edge in preventing building of ice and snow as there is no exposed mechanism on the blade. But I could be wrong as the e39 blades do sit below the hood and I don't run my e39 in the snow. The cost of replacement for the e39 set up is going to be cheaper.

If you really want the beam type wipers you can retrofit e60 wiper arms (not the blade the arms part 5). It is not cost effective and for the passenger arm it requires cutting and welding 1/2 of the e60 arm to the e39 arm. The driver side requires you to bend the arm. It is on my to do list as I like that setup, but it is not cost effective.

Also just make sure rain x makes blades for the e60.
I am not sure as I am interested in icons or oem bmw beam wipers not rain x.

See this thread for info on the over the top kinda unnecessary e60 swap.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...358&highlight=
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Any suggestions on weatherizing the e39 blades? Since im from Central NY we get snow and ice ive noticed that the open design of the blades makes the wipers prone to freezing and not doing their job very well unless you do the old flop em on the windsheild trick a few times, wich can crack wind screens so im not a fan lol.
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wiper blades

Hey Ilian, I bought the Bosch wiper blades from Amazon, $35.. free delivery for you. Takes less than a minute to change each blade. I have the same car as you. It's a no brainer mate, the refills might be cheaper but from past experience and reading threads on them a bit of a PITA to change.

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Old 01-25-2012, 12:28 AM
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More than you probably want to know is below ...

- How to replace E39 wiper blade refills (1) & how to buy E39 25" driver side & 22" passenger side windshield wiper blade refills (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (11) (12) (13) & how to replace the wiper arm (1) (2) & troubleshooting or replacing the wiper motor (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) or wiper switch (1) or wiper relay (1) & how to replace the rain sensor (1) (2) & retrofitting a rain sensor (1) (2) (3) & how to remove Rain-X water wiper streaks & spots on windshield glass (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7).
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:48 AM
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...It's a no brainer mate, the refills might be cheaper but from past experience and reading threads on them a bit of a PITA to change.
What?

Changing the refill is very very easy:
- Simply remove the wiper from the car, remove old refill.
- Cut new refill to length, then insert it.

About 2-3 min per side.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:03 AM
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New refills are exceptionally cheap and easy to install (if you know how to transfer the metal spines) but on worn-out wiper arms they're a waste of $ no matter how inexpensive.
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What?

Changing the refill is very very easy:
- Simply remove the wiper from the car, remove old refill.
- Cut new refill to length, then insert it.

About 2-3 min per side.
DITTO. It took all of 5 minuted to uninstall, reinstall, and throw away the refuse.

Once you move the wipers into position (ignition on, turn on wipers, turn ignition off when wipers are at highest point)...this allows you to pull the arm back (#5) and unhook the blade...where you can remove the old and slide the new refill in to place (once you've cut the refill to size). Then you just hook the blade back on to the arm and move over to the other side.

I don't see how anything to do with changing the rubber refills is a PITA...unless you don't know the procedure for moving the blades into place, and that the arm can be pulled away from the windshield.
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Ok, I stand corrected. After reading the posts by CN90 and Quicksilver I thought I would get my old arms which I kept and see how easy it was to change the rubbers.

It took me a few minutes to see I needed to pull the rubber out of one end first as it is locked in by the last 2 wiper arm 'claws'. Once you do that the rubber and splines slide out. Then you need to put the splines back in the new rubber the slide it back in the claws of the arm. It was a bit fiddly getting the rubber to seat back in the last claw to lock it in but with a little jewellers screwdriver quite easy.

So next time I will probably go this way and save a few dollars,

Also there is no need to have the arms vertical to remove, I found it easy to lift and remove the arms in their normal position



The claw locked in the rubber refill




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I believe BMW recommends replacing rubber every 6 months. I got 2 years out of mine in Ontario and PNW. I don't mind replacing the rubber.

You can get one-piece blades. There was a DIY posted here a while ago. Basically you cut the end of the E39 arm off and weld in the end from an e60. But you can't buy just inserts for the e60 afaik.
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Guys thank you for all the answers, but no one actually took attention to what I specifically asked ....

My question is: DO I NEED TO BUY SEPARATELY THE: wiper blade guide part number #61618162982 (Which I miss on one of my blades)

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@Gibo thank you for the link I will save it if i decide to go with whole blades. I believe I will get refils, but only if they come with the Blade Guide
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Guys thank you for all the answers, but no one actually took attention to what I specifically asked ....

My question is: DO I NEED TO BUY SEPARATELY THE: wiper blade guide part number #61618162982 (Which I miss on one of my blades)

Thank you
Head down to your local BMW dealer and buy whatever you need.
PN 61618162982 is about $2 at dealer.
With the time it takes to post and reply to this issue, drive down the BMW dealer and you will get this solved in no time at all.
Plus, these parts are very cheap, even at dealer (surprise, surprise).
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@CN90, I called BMW of Roseville (916-790-1990),

They have the refills for $6.77 for each side and the Wiper Blade Guide for $2.70.

It was little hard for the guy to find the Wiper guide part, but at the end he found it They offered shiping of those for $12. My bimmer will probably spend $12 gas to there :P
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I am closer to roseville 15 miles each way. Live in Folsom. My profile say sacramento because it is better known city close by. There are two dealers one at fulton: "Niello" and one at Roseville "BMW of Roseville"

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Guys thank you for all the answers, but no one actually took attention to what I specifically asked ....

My question is: DO I NEED TO BUY SEPARATELY THE: wiper blade guide part number #61618162982 (Which I miss on one of my blades)

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Ummm...I thought I did address that question in my reply in post #3. You didn't mention in the orig post that yours was missing...but it was still addressed in my reply with "unless you happen to want a new one for some reason..."

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No...you don't "have" to get the part nbr you mentioned (it's #5 in the diagram below)...unless you happen to want a new one for some reason....

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Also there is no need to have the arms vertical to remove, I found it easy to lift and remove the arms in their normal position
Thanks for posting back...and now I stand corrected about positioning the wiper blades for changing them...I was confusing the e38 & e39...it is the e38 that you have to move the wipers up into position because they are parked below the edge of the hood when in the "rest" position. Sorry about mixing the two car's procedure.

And here in the states...when you buy the refills with the metal reinforcements already running thru them...there are also a couple of "bands" around the refill blades that holds them together & facilitates sliding the whole refill (rubber blade & metal strips) thru the "claws"...and the bands just slide down and eventually off by the time you've gotten down to the last "claw" on the wiper blade.
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Qsilver7 i lost one of my wiper blade guides and thats why i asked if someone know if it comes with new wiper blade or is part of the wiper blade contol arm. I watched that diagram on realorm but it wasnt clear enough if it is from the wiper blade set or separate part to purchase.
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Qsilver7 i lost one of my wiper blade guides and thats why i asked if someone know if it comes with new wiper blade or is part of the wiper blade contol arm. I watched that diagram on realorm but it wasnt clear enough if it is from the wiper blade set or separate part to purchase.
...no problem. If you see a number in the diagram listed alone...and it also appears in the part nbr index below the diagram...then that part can be purchased by itself.

When you see a number in the diagram that has lines that connect it to other numbers in the diagram...then it means that item can be purchased as part of a larger set (the other parts that are connected by the lines).

In this case below...item #3 consists of all the things the lines connect it to ( #4, #5, & #6)....but #4 , #5, #6 can also be purchased separately. Same for #1... it is a set that comes with #1 & #2...but you can just purchase #2 if nothing is wrong with your #1.

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@Qsilver7: Ive got it now i didnt know how to say if a part is part of a set.

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