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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now! |
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BMW continues to update their model line-up and has announced some changes to the X3 including a switch over to the N20 motor in the xDrive28i starting production in April 2012. The N20 replaced the nominally aspirated inline 6-cylinder engine add produced upwards of 240 horsepower and 260 lb-ft of torque. This is the same motor found in the new 328i which was just put on a dyno and show to produce 240hp & 257tq at the wheels! You can read more on that here: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=601206 In addition, the new X3 models will bring in more technology from the rest of the BMW line-up including Driver Assistance Package option (ZDA) (will include Lane Departure Warning) and the optional M Sport Package will come with 19" wheels. New standard equipment includes Auto Start Stop and Driving Dynamics Control with ECO PRO. In addition, the xDrive28i will now come standard with the power tailgate, 18" wheels and chrome tailpipes -- all while keep the prices at $37,995 for the xDrive28i and $43,595 for the xDrive35i. The N20 motor keeps getting rave reviews on other cars -- is this new addition going to sway anyone to buy or NOT to buy a new X3? |
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I think it may get potential 35i buyers to cross shop the 28i.
From personal experience the N20/8spd is a great combo and the saved money could go to some extra 'bells and whistles'. And once the car is out of warranty there will be plenty of tuning options to bring hp close to the 35i. |
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I don't like turbos. They work fine for a while but once they fail, it's $$$$$$ to fix or you need to replace them.
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What make of car did you have with a failed turbo?
I trust bmw can engineer a long lasting reliable engine. |
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i am not that sure, my 2011 550 xi M sport engine was replaced @ 4000 miles!!!!!!!
read this forum and you will realize that long-term reliability is an issue for BMW
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Not a chance.
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I donno...
A fully loaded 28i (every option) costs the same as a 35i with M-sport, dynamic comfort package and Nav. here. I've driven the x1/n20 combo and it's got plenty of power. ![]() Here in Ontario the cops can take your car if you spin the tires so 60hp and 40lb/ft will just get ya in trouble quicker. ![]() @ at 6.7sec to sixty the n20 will stay ahead of traffic. |
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If BMW will make the 6-speed manual available with the N20 engine, that is a combination I would buy.
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But they don't want you to buy it, so they won't make it.
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Oh, they make it alright, but won't sell it here.
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Can we order the N20 X3 now?
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Don't know about the Swiss...
Here is a list of stuff that the Cops can take your car in Ontario at their curb-side discretion: • Racing – well OK • Appearing to chase another vehicle – in who's opinion? oh ya the cop • Driving fast (a rate of speed that is a marked departure from the lawful rate) – normally called speeding • Changing lanes in close proximity to other vehicles – OK but generally drivers in Ontario don't give way to faster traffic creating conga-lines • Front or rear wheelies on a bike – OK • Donuts – OK • Spinning the tires – OK, but really? Fun police! • Driving with a person in the trunk – note to self when kidnapping! • Driving when not sitting in the driver's seat – donno how one does this but OK • Speeding 50km/h over limit • Preventing another driver from passing – I actually like this one • Slowing down to impede others – I like this one too but the cops will never enforce • Tailgating – really….... the cops can take your car for this? There are some exceptions basically to do with officially sanctioned events but my favorite is: motor vehicle owners engaged in a tour, scenic drive, treasure hunt or other similar motoring event in which the participants drive responsibly and in a manner that indicates an overall intention to comply with the provisions of the Act; or. Honest officer I was on a scenic drive I swear! Last edited by lbjgh; 02-18-2012 at 07:56 AM. |
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I'd talk to your dealer... it appears some markets get earlier production runs.
This is an extract from a MT review of the 3 series with the N20 Quote:
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i have a 2006 x3 and I enjoy it alot! But the looks of the 2012 are a thing of beauty. Must have some day hopefully in the not so far future.
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That gas mileage and performance in the MT article on the 328 is exceptional! If they even come close to that in the 28i X3 than I am certainly going to take a long look at one -- even though I had absolutely no intention of getting an X3 again. Getting close to 35 mpg on the highway and in the high 20's in town is a game changer for me. Now that BMW has finally fixed the horrible ride over rough road problem -- and retained the superb handling -- this is a car that comes close to the hybrid (Highlander and RX450H) SUV mpg numbers as we approach and pass the $5.00 a gallon mark!
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It will be interesting to see the final drive ratio. In the 28i (6 cyl.) the rear axle ratio is jacked up to get adequate power. That causes the EPA ratings to fall short of the 35i
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Good point! To get adequate performance a higher number is used, with the new turbo 4 we will see what BMW does to keep adequate performance and exceptional fuel economy. Personally I would love to see a RWD version of the X3 with the new engine, since I have no use for 4WD where I live and drive.
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Would have NEVER bought the 2.8 if was 4-cyl powered. I cannot stand the noise.
As I have posted countless times, they are just noisy. Even my dealer reports the new 528 is "nice, but you still know there is a 4-cyl up there, it is noisy"..his words, not mine. I chose the Hemi in my car for the smoothness, not the power. Regardless of power, that 4 popper is working ALOT harder to keep up with the smooth, fine six it is trying to replace.
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Yeah, more torques!
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I loved the little 4-banger in my '68 2002! If the new one is as sweet it will be great!
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They aren't all going to be 4cyl....
The new GC is quieter inside than the x3. yes. |
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