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can the same coding be done with NCS expert?

Thanks again!
Yes. Read the module (MMI in this case) with NCS expert and you get the NETTODAT.TRC file which contain the command lines Ace is referring to.

You can modify the hex value on line 3002 as per Ace's guide and save the file as NETTODAT.MAN then code the MMI using the basic functions/coapiCodeSgByNettoDATA Type "NETTODAT.MAN".
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Hi politby,

Thanks for that, I will read the MMI this weekend and have a look. Im using INPA and DIS on my macbook using a virtual machine inside a virtual machine which is pretty slow! So im setting up a old computer in the garage at the moment purely for diagnostics etc...

Ace, do you have a list of hex values for the MMI that you know what they do? i.e. enable the various different options that I will need to program when I upgrade the MMI?

I will take a picture of the unit this weekend, The wiring sounds simple just need to find the diagrams for my unit and the new one i will be fitting and match the connections up.

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If you have a facelift Tcu its just a simple coding change. Even if you don't have dashsoft
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Did your antennas plug into a compensator rather than the TCU?
How many handsets were in your car?
Was there only one in the front drawer?
I have only 1 handset in the front center console like I told you before .
there are no Antenna plugs on my TCU as you can see in the pic's .
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If you have a facelift Tcu its just a simple coding change. Even if you don't have dashsoft
I hope i've got facelift TCU)
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Ace,

Below is the NETTODAT file (from NCS Expert) listing the command lines from the MMIGT on my car:


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B 00300100,0010,01,00,16,20,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
B 00300200,0010,3F,2A,28,48,FB,45,3D,D0,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
B 00301000,0010,C8,00,20,00,00,00,00,BD,F0,22,21,55,50,52,55,7F
B 00310000,0010,00,00,03,00,16,03,02,BC,64,05,DC,64,0B,B8,64,13
B 00310010,0010,88,64,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
B 00310200,0001,55
B 00310300,0002,1A,1A
On line 3002 I changed the "7F" to "3F" which I think is what you did in Dashsoft. Does this look familiar?

I have tried to do the coding but NCS Expert crashes with a general protection fault when I try the coding. I need to find out why, maybe the MMI does not support nettodat coding.

Unfortunately I have to run NCS Expert in a VM as I don't have a native 32-bit Win7 or XP system.

Can someone else who has NCS Expert try this?
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Hey Politby,
Command line 3002 ASCII code 7, which in that command line you have sent me is 3D. Change 3D to 3F.
Ignore 00300200, 0010, then start counting each pair....so the one that is 3F is the first pair, 2A is the second pair, 28 is the third pair and so forth.
There is a total of 16 pairs in command line 3002.

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Hey Politby,
Command line 3002 ASCII code 7, which in that command line you have sent me is 3D. Change 3D to 3F.
Ignore 00300200, 0010, then start counting each pair....so the one that is 3F is the first pair, 2A is the second pair, 28 is the third pair and so forth.
There is a total of 16 pairs in command line 3002.

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Thanks, I was wondering if you meant the actual decimal 7 or the hex value. Will change and try again. Guess I will have to setup an XP partition to run this Stone Age software from...
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I hope i've got facelift TCU)
Now wouldn't it be swell if someone could tell us the definition of a "facelift TCU".

There are so many TCU part numbers in the BMW listings that it makes my brain hurt...
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Okay, while working on creating a 32-bit Win7 partition so I can run NCS Expert natively, I made a little dry run.

I used Revtor's NCSdummy tool to compare the NETTODAT.TRC files before and after the change on command line 3002. That's a handy function to find out what a hex code change in the nettodat file will result in the human "readable" parameter file:

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Output       : Trace Differences
Chassis      : E65 (E65,E66,E67,E68)
Module       : MMI_E65.C03
Trace file 1 : "C:\NCSEXPER\WORK\NETTODAT.TRC" (Nettodata)
Trace file 2 : "C:\NCSEXPER\WORK\NETTODAT2.TRC" (Nettodata)
Differences  : Yes


1   2   FUNCTION KEYWORD        FUNCTION KEYWORD TRANSLATION
            PARAMETER KEYWORD       PARAMETER KEYWORD TRANSLATION
        ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
        BLUETOOTH_HANDY         
*           nicht_aktiv             not active
    *       aktiv                   active
As you can see the parameter affected by the "3D" to "3F" change in the 7th hex pair is the BLUETOOTH_HANDY value which gets set to active. "Handy", of course, being the German word for cellphone.

Now, it's anybody´s guess why something this obvious has not been successfully attempted by anyone on the German 7-forum, but my hunch is that this simple coding change may not work on every pre-sep-06 facelift car because the TCU versions may not necessarily be timed with the facelift date (s).

And for those using NCS Expert this means that coding this can be done via the standard method so coding by way of NETTODAT is not necessary.

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Hi Ace, are you guessing the hex values or do you have some reference info re you're settings?
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