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Old 02-16-2012, 04:27 AM
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Service Rear Brake Pads Again?

My iDrive showed that I have to service my rear brake pads in 400 KM again.
The last time that happened I sent it in and the dealer checked and said the pads were fine and reset the iDrive to check the pads in 28,000KM.
Now at 70,000 KM (43,000 Miles) the same warning showed up.
I wonder how long does the rear pads last in the D?

I will be sending it in soon.

Other than that my D has been working like a charm with no other faults. Touch wood!
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:46 AM
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I replaced my rears at 75,000km. They were pretty much done. I don't know why the rears wear proportionately faster than the fronts, but my E34 540i was the same.

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Old 02-16-2012, 05:17 AM
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In all my previous BMWs the rear pads laster 1.5-2x longer than the fronts. Not sure what the point is of the mileage indicator, doesn't the E90 still use pad wear sensors?
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Old 02-16-2012, 05:58 AM
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I called the dealer and the SA said the rear pads on the D normally lasts 50,000 KM!
I guess the 425 lb ft torque takes it out on the rear it being a RWD vehicle.

I checked the iDrive and it states the front brake pads need to be service in 60,000 KM (so the front pads last 130,000 KM???)!

Nevertheless it's been a good vehicle and if it needs new pads so be it.
I'm not complaining so long as other things not break since brakes are a wear and tear item.

I have an appointment for tomorrow morning to have it checked.
Perhaps it's just a faulty sensor!
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:14 AM
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My iDrive showed that I have to service my rear brake pads in 400 KM again.
The last time that happened I sent it in and the dealer checked and said the pads were fine and reset the iDrive to check the pads in 28,000KM.
Now at 70,000 KM (43,000 Miles) the same warning showed up.
I wonder how long does the rear pads last in the D?
My rear pads are due in 1600 miles; there are about 42K on the car. The fronts have another 5K miles, according to the computer.

I believe they have a different (progressive?) wear indicator than previous models.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:24 AM
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My rear pads are due in 1600 miles; there are about 42K on the car. The fronts have another 5K miles, according to the computer.

I believe they have a different (progressive?) wear indicator than previous models.
So I'm not sure what to make of my iDrive as my current mileage is 70,500 KM (43K Miles).
The iDrives states my rear pas need to be serviced in 140KM while it showed my front pads only need service in another 60,000 KM!
Which means the front pads will last 70,000+60,000 KM (130,000 KM/80K Miles)?
But your D's front brakes only last 47K Miles?

Some things doesn't seem right?
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:19 AM
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...But your D's front brakes only last 47K Miles?
That's about what all BMW brakes last. Soft pads and soft rotors mean good stopping but poor life.

This condition-based-service is not friendly to us owners IMO.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:11 AM
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I have 16k mi on my car and my idrive says my rear pads are due for replacement in 3k miles! I try to keep DCT off as much as possible.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:23 AM
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I have 16k mi on my car and my idrive says my rear pads are due for replacement in 3k miles! I try to keep DCT off as much as possible.
That is about what mine says....rears due at 19k. But mine does not get driven hard at all. I think its all that thrust that burns up rear pads on this car.
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Old 02-16-2012, 02:04 PM
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You have a problem with a sensor or something electrical
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:14 PM
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That is about what mine says....rears due at 19k. But mine does not get driven hard at all. I think its all that thrust that burns up rear pads on this car.
I'd have to check but I think mine says mine are due in quite a long time. I know it has some service in 4200 miles but it is not brakes and that is the soonest service. I am sitting around 22k miles maybe even closer to 23k now.
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Old 02-17-2012, 05:31 AM
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My D is going in this morning @ 10am so we'll see if it needs new rear pads or just a sensor malfunction like the last time this warning showed up.
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Old 02-17-2012, 08:05 AM
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I'm now at the dealer and the D does need new pads + rotors!
While they're doing the work my CA let me test drove the new F30 (Luxury) 328i.
Man this car is fast for a 2.0L 4 Cyl!
It's also great on FE.
I also saw the Sports model and the interiors are awesome.
The 8 speed tranny is really something and fully electronic.
It also has the stop/start feature and the engine temp gauge is on the dash.
I find the steering is fine even though it's electric unlike the F10 which felt too light.
The auto trunk opening feature is a great one and it also comes with rear view camera.
Unfortunately the xi model will only be out in Fall.

In real life the front hood treatment with the extra panel over the grill is not that bad although I personally prefer the one piece hood like ours.

I told him I'm more interested in a D which would not be available for a couple of years. Plus the new 328i's FE is close to our D so it would be a tough sell.
He told me the F10D will be out sooner then the F30d.
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:48 PM
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My D is going in this morning @ 10am so we'll see if it needs new rear pads or just a sensor malfunction like the last time this warning showed up.
I don't have the I-Pad or whatever you call the computer screen where the radio is.

I have to scroll through with my turn signal handle (which I am not too fond of). I think under service it shows my front brake pads at 60,000 miles and my rears are at like 1,200miles. Go figure. It has one of my services scheduled for like 2045! I'll just wait for the idiot light to go on or I get my low DEF alarm!

I know I'm coming up soon for my third (approx) 15k service, nearing 35k miles now.
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:39 AM
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That is about what mine says....rears due at 19k. But mine does not get driven hard at all. I think its all that thrust that burns up rear pads on this car.
As others have alluded to, it is likely a glitch. This happened to me at 18k. I happen to have my invoice right here, and here is what it says they did to fix it:

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PERFORM REAR BRAKE JOB. REAR BRAKE NOT DUE. FOUND CBS DATA IN VEHICLE INCORRECT. PERFORMED SHORT TEST. PERFORMED CBS CORRECTIONS TEST PLAN TO CORRECT CBS VALVES. REAR PADS @ 10. FRONT @ 11MM
I'm not sure what CBS "valves" are, probably a typo instead of "values"

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