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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 03-27-2012, 10:29 AM
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How did you check it?

The only way to actually do so is to put it in a pot of water on the stove, and physically watch it open at the right temperature (82 or 90*C)
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:56 AM
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i wanna do that. if for no other reason than to watch it go POP! haha. wish i didnt have to drain the coolant to do it.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:16 PM
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you call 18mpg running wonderful? dude i have the M54 and i get 26mpg...
you have an m54 in your e36?

mine gets 22 and its running pretty rich
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:24 PM
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that was a typo. supposed to be M52...

and yea i get 26.4 according to the OBC. i verified it with maths too so i know its pretty accurate.
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:23 PM
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when i checked my compression all of my plugs were bad except for one so what are the odds that 3 injectors are stuck open and one isnt? i havent gotten around to checking my injectors but its on my list along with the coolant temp sensor
what is a t-stat and how do i check it
as for the way my car sounds its aweful..i dont know if it has anything to do with the problems its having but ill try to get a video of it tomorrow after work and maybe it will help yall help me narrow it down
i am getting the 1222 code and thats the only one
i was abandoned and sat for three years..
i dont know if this is the reason it was left behind or how much it has to do with the way its running but i definitely have to figure it out quick..
by the way what kind of freon do these cars take..hopefully nothing special
if it's running like big fat poop, the last thing that you need to worry about is the air conditioning...

as for the 3 'bad' plugs, i am going to assume that they were all black and fouled out?? what was the difference between them and the last one?? how do you know that the 3 were 'ok', and the last one was 'bad'??


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Oh I'm not familiar with all these short cuts y'all use for stuff..
I also noticed that when I fill my car up it hesitates until I burn some of the gas out? Why is that?
But my tstat is fine I've already checked it
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How did you check it?

The only way to actually do so is to put it in a pot of water on the stove, and physically watch it open at the right temperature (82 or 90*C)
you beat me to the question, there, ed.

but you could verify the temp operation with a thermal gun. no need to go get the cookware to check a car part...we *are* in (wait, what's the year again?? )


anyway, i will wait for the video to see what we're dealing with here. unitl then, it's a guessing game at best.

however, i do believe that this is a candidate for a competant tech to take and do an assessment on.



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Old 03-27-2012, 07:34 PM
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yes we did put it in a pot of water on the stove actually ha thats one of the first things i did after i got the car running
im worried about the air conditioning because i have two kids to haul around and its 85 degrees everyday
as for the plugs i put them in two months ago and three were fouled out so i replaced them the one on cylindar 4 still looked brand new..
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:31 PM
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i wish you could smell the premium engulfing the back of my car..
if i need to ill take another during the day and while im driving
mostly i just wanted someone else to hear it
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:36 AM
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Oh dude. Dude. That is. Oh man. That is not good. That sounds like one of those Top Fuel Dragsters about to take off.... Except you have half the number of cylinders as they do and you're (hopefully) not running methane.
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Old 03-28-2012, 07:12 AM
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See!!! Horrible! What the **** is that? That's exactly what I said about it the first time I crunk it up.. It might be a little exaggerated due to me being in and enclosed echoed area but that about sums it up
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:20 AM
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I'd swear that thing is only running on two cylinders. Are you absolutely certain you have spark to all four plugs? And you are SURE you have the plug wires in the correct order?
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:09 AM
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1- check that u got ur spark in all 4 pots, just take out sparkplug and put it against the body to see is it sparking
if u are gettin spark in all 4 than its could be that the bottom end in ur engine is snapped
if u not getting spark, check/change ur spark leads,, if still same check the red plastic cover, where spark leads starts
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:21 PM
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Yes I have checked them numerous times I've pretty much knocked out all the simple stuff
Spark on all four again
Anything electrical that I can see has been checked
I've checked all the wires running from the back to the front
Nothing is corroded melted etc
Nothing seems out of the ordinary except that is uses excessive amounts of gas and goes blat blat blat.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:43 PM
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Yes I have checked them numerous times I've pretty much knocked out all the simple stuff
Spark on all four again
Anything electrical that I can see has been checked
I've checked all the wires running from the back to the front
Nothing is corroded melted etc
Nothing seems out of the ordinary except that is uses excessive amounts of gas and goes blat blat blat.
if u have a chance try to change ECU to see is that makes any difference, its possible that it got dampness and its fu..d now and keeps the injectors open for to long
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:46 PM
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combustion requires 3 things; fuel, air, and spark. you have the spark. what about the fuel and air? are you getting fuel in all 4 cyl?
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this should cover everything that is wrong and needs to be fixed on my car
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Old 03-28-2012, 01:03 PM
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change the ecu?
how much is one for this model the last car i had to buy an ecu for cost me 1200
as far as fuel in all cylindars i have not checked that i just assumed that if its running rich then i have no problem getting gas..
this is the first car ive ever had where it took me this long to figure it out.
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Old 03-28-2012, 01:08 PM
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1) Side skirts look like they're supposed to be trim black. theres a compund you can get that dyes it back to the factory cover.
2) Get rid of the fake wood.
3) the "temperature thing" as you called it has some light bulbs behind the display that just need to be replaced.
4) the odo fix requires some soldering if im not mistaken. Look at the stickies to get info on that.
5) door panels are easier to just get used ones. preferably matched to whatever seats you plan on getting.

But all this should be secondary to getting that engine sorted. just cuz it looks good on the outside doesnt mean its looking good on the inside.
you could be only getting combusion in 2 cyl like hornhospital said. if thats the case then either the fuel or air isnt working in half your cyl. your car could be compensating by dumping loads of extra fuel into the remaining 2 cyl leading to the rich condition.
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change the ecu?
how much is one for this model the last car i had to buy an ecu for cost me 1200
as far as fuel in all cylindars i have not checked that i just assumed that if its running rich then i have no problem getting gas..
this is the first car ive ever had where it took me this long to figure it out.
i meant if u can get hands on one from one of ur friends who has one like urs or if u can check if tis is the problem before u purchase the ecu.
if its electrical problem. if mechanical, like worn/ broken piston rings and pistons with couses no compression, or broken bottom end, with couses piston stall. recently my friend had a similar problem with 3rd cyl, result was broken bottom end, car was scrapped
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change the ecu?
how much is one for this model the last car i had to buy an ecu for cost me 1200

as far as fuel in all cylindars i have not checked that i just assumed that if its running rich then i have no problem getting gas..
this is the first car ive ever had where it took me this long to figure it out.
check ebay, the ones for ur model goes around 50 euro
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Yes all that is definitely secondary
Don't worry just cause I'm a girl doesn't mean I give a damn how it looks which I don't (you should see some of my previous cars) but I have to piddle while I think. Weird I know.
As for fuel on cyl what's the easiest way to check that I've never had to do that before
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Yes all that is definitely secondary
Don't worry just cause I'm a girl doesn't mean I give a damn how it looks which I don't (you should see some of my previous cars)
but I have to piddle while I think. Weird I know.
As for fuel on cyl what's the easiest way to check that I've never had to do that before
??? i never said nothing u have to do the productivity test
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yup currently no idea what that is
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yup currently no idea what that is
its the test where u can see how much fuel gets each cylinder in set time, and then u can compare it what it should be getting.
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but im still wondering if its throwing the lambda code could it just be as simple as an egr valve or something?
and if i take it to a shop and let them do diagnostics will their test be able to pull exactly what it is
or is it still a guessing game regardless...
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but im still wondering if its throwing the lambda code could it just be as simple as an egr valve or something?
and if i take it to a shop and let them do diagnostics will their test be able to pull exactly what it is
or is it still a guessing game regardless...
of course, real mechanich will know right away, and they will have all the tools to get all tests done
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