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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 02-07-2012, 10:18 AM
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From an E39 to an Infiniti M45?

I have done a lot of maintenance already and planning to do cooling overhaul in a month or so. This morning the car wouldn't start for some reason. And now I am getting the DSC, brake light and ABS lighting up randomly (I think this maybe a sensor issue). It seems like when I get this car working just right, something comes up.."gremlins" or whatever. I know most of this stuff are DIYable, but I just can't have full confidence driving this car. I have been eyeing a used Infiniti M45 for a little while now. I will be test driving one this week from a dealer nearby.

I know they are heavier and probably do not handle as well as the E39. But they should still be a great car to drive and will be much more reliable than my E39.

I'll decide after I check out the car in person and drive it. My car is paid off and currently has 108k miles. The market price on these cars are getting lower. Not sure yet how much I can get for the E39 for private sale or trade in..

If anyone owns an M45 or have experience in it let me know what you think..

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Old 02-07-2012, 10:25 AM
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it was a similar thread "from BMW to Infiniti" on bimmerforum

2003 E39 530iA Sport Package with your miles is around $9-$11k
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:40 PM
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My mom has an M35, but we test drove an M45 and let me just say that the luxury and power of the car was absolutely amazing. I'd highly recommend it, e39's are rather unpredictable in my opinion.

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The last thing i want to do is to change my unpredictable 530 on any Nissan-Infiniti car
maybe its just me
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:23 PM
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It's a nice Japanese luxo-car, but it doesn't have the soul like a Bimmer has, as the auto press has noted. Most folks wouldn't notice. Drive one, then decide.
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:28 PM
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I just test drove one during lunch break. Amazing car. Its feels a lot bigger but the V8 really moves that car. Steering is not as good as E39. But it handled pretty well as it was the Sports model (19 inch wheels, stiffer suspension, 4-wheel steering). But that V8 and the transmission is very responsive.
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:52 PM
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My good friend said, when he heard me talking about getting a BMW for my wife too, "You may want to keep one Japanese car so you can make sure you can get to work every day." So far I've never been stranded, but he does have a point.
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:10 PM
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The traditional Jag driver sometimes keeps three: one to drive while one is being repaired, while one is waitint for parts.
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I agree with champaign777 and edjack completely, I love my e39. I'm not much of a fan of Japanese cars, they never seem to be built for sheer driving pleasure. That's just my thoughts though, choose what makes you happy.
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:27 AM
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I agree as well. I owned one Japanese car many years ago. All German after that. They are just plain fun. Even a piece of crap VW is fun.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:42 AM
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The only memorable and "fun" Japanese car I had owned was a 1972 Datsun 240Z. Never owned a Miata but I drove one and those are fun cars. The rest of the cars I owned were German (modified Audi TT, VW GTI, BMW E36). Out of all the Jap cars though, Inifiniti is closest to a BMW in my opinion as their cars ar emostly RWD and have decent power and handling. As for the M45, no "soul" ? yes. But its hard to argue a smooth 335HP V8 driving the rear wheels, to me its a fun car to drive.
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I have done a lot of maintenance already and planning to do cooling overhaul in a month or so. This morning the car wouldn't start for some reason. And now I am getting the DSC, brake light and ABS lighting up randomly (I think this maybe a sensor issue). It seems like when I get this car working just right, something comes up.."gremlins" or whatever. I know most of this stuff are DIYable, but I just can't have full confidence driving this car. I have been eyeing a used Infiniti M45 for a little while now. I will be test driving one this week from a dealer nearby.

I know they are heavier and probably do not handle as well as the E39. But they should still be a great car to drive and will be much more reliable than my E39.

I'll decide after I check out the car in person and drive it. My car is paid off and currently has 108k miles. The market price on these cars are getting lower. Not sure yet how much I can get for the E39 for private sale or trade in..

If anyone owns an M45 or have experience in it let me know what you think..

I just purchased a 2008 M35 Sport, looks exactly like the picture you posted in triple black. And I will say. Night a day difference compared to the E39! I also have a silver E39, the M35 is such a better performed and much more reliable compared to BMW’s BS. The technology in this car is awesome. A/C seats, rear camera, LDW “Land Departure Warning”, IPOD connector, built in hard drive for CD Audio Download, active steering headlights, touch screen navigation, voice activation controls. Omg this car is awesome. Sometimes the grass is greener on the other side. IMO
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I am a fan of Nissan/Infinity. If I were going to buy a Japanese car it would be an Infinity G37 Sport sedan. The M series seems to be missing a pedal.
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I am a fan of Nissan/Infinity. If I were going to buy a Japanese car it would be an Infinity G37 Sport sedan. The M series seems to be missing a pedal.
I agree, my brother has a G35 coupe and the pedal response is soo much quicker. I also had a 2012 g37x sedan as a loaner while my M was getting serviced. that thing is fast! i must of raced over a dozen cars and did not lose once. 330 HP manual shift, since it wasnt my car the thing took a beating like no other and can handle.
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the old Q45a ---which had the active suspension would run circles around any BMW of the era ! Lexus and Infinity forced ALL the other companies to make better cars. They were
cose to half the price of a Benz but twice the car.

Huyndia is a real up and comer from the junk they made years ago.

Also, 99 per cent of the owners don't drive their cars anywhere near the limit---myself
included--so a lot of the design is pure overkill.
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I owned a 1994 Infiniti Q45t..Modified by Stillen in Costa Mesa, CA. It wasn't the "A" model with the active suspension but it did have the super HICAS 4-wheel steering. It had over 300HP with a Jim Wolfe ECU and Stillen dual exhaust. Best car I have ever owned along with my current E39. It was fast and was much more reliable.
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the old Q45a ---which had the active suspension would run circles around any BMW of the era ! Lexus and Infinity forced ALL the other companies to make better cars. They were
cose to half the price of a Benz but twice the car.

Huyndia is a real up and comer from the junk they made years ago.

Also, 99 per cent of the owners don't drive their cars anywhere near the limit---myself
included--so a lot of the design is pure overkill.
Hard truths there but truths nonetheless. The movie "Gung Ho" is a nice allegory for the auto industry in the '80s.
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This forum is all about the amazing E39. If you are tired of repairing your E39 and want to know what car to buy, you should check out Consumer Report or something.
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:21 PM
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The G37 is a rather nice "alternative" to a BMW IMHO. That's just due to the fact that I like 3 pedals, and have gotten acclimated to the exterior design. The M 35/45 is still a bit heavy looking for me, but that's just me.

I won't give you a hard time for considering another car...and I even own an e39...humm ...have you considered what you just posted MurrayP?....have YOU had to pay for upkeep on one of these yet...?
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This forum is all about the amazing E39. If you are tired of repairing your E39 and want to know what car to buy, you should check out Consumer Report or something.
Is that so Mr Chrysler - built on a Mercedes chassis?
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Buy and drive what you like ... but comparing almost any newer car to an older one isn't exactly a fair fight when it comes to reliability. Just the fact that you are stepping up to a newer car will make the difference, regardless of the country it came from.

I've been pondering selling my 540 and buying something newer, more reliable, and more economical.... but you know what I'll get for a similar value? An 8-year-old Corolla/Civic or a 6-year-old Saturn/Focus/Hyunkia. So when I think about doing a straight-up trade for one of those, I don't believe I could bring myself to do it. If I want something as nice and powerful that is newer and more reliable, I'd have to spend a HELLUVA lot more money, as you are doing.

The 540 is my spare car, however, so it doesn't bother me to lay it up when need be (although I haven't had to yet).

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Teklord, a car's #1 purpose is to drive and be reliable.
If that's not your experience, and you're sick of it, then by all means, dump it and move on.
If my BMW starts breaking down every month, I will ditch this thing in a heartbeat.

If the car ain't reliable, none of the other crap matters.
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2003 E39 530iA Sport Package with your miles is around $9-$11k
He'd never get even close to that in NY.
More like $7-8k range.
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Never drove the Q45 with the 4 wheel steering---has to be awesome.

My 540i has never caused me to have a BONER--when driving it---Frankly,it is not in the top 10 of cars I have owned. It is a heavy LUXO BOX --

MY 3 series -IMO- are real BMW's---Great size, handling, fun to drive and a step up
from my 2002ti.

Hard to tell a 740il from a Lexus ls 460----both are overkill
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Looks Gay.... Definitively a Woman's Car... Now a G35 is what ya Should get
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