Why does everyone here have diesels?

Originally Posted by georgejm

ND40oz and how often you are above 4400 RPM and for how long going how fast...keep it real? Whatever your personal need the D will deliver, that's that. The 35i is just as good and you wasting your time telling me how great it is, I believe you and hope your are as happy as I am.

Depends on what I'm doing, merging onto a highway or passing I'm going above 4400 rpm. Having some fun on the back roads, same thing.

Originally Posted by tol4o

I don't know if that ever been tested, but by obeying the physical laws, if there is no speed limit the 35D wil reach higher top speed than 35i and the reason for this is the higher torque that will deliver enough power to overcome the air drag better

I'm trying to figure out why the 35d will reach a higher top speed then the 35i. They're both available with option 840 should you spec them properly, are you saying that the 35i won't hit the limiter?

Or are you saying with the limiters removed the 35d will hit a higher top speed above 150 mph? Going strictly by the gearing and a 4400 rpm limit for the 35d, it will top out at around 149 mph, if you can take it to 4600 rpm, gearing wise, it should hit 155 mph. So it's not going to go much above the 150 mph limiter anyway, even if you remove it.

Originally Posted by ND40oz

Depends on what I'm doing, merging onto a highway or passing I'm going above 4400 rpm. Having some fun on the back roads, same thing.



I'm trying to figure out why the 35d will reach a higher top speed then the 35i. They're both available with option 840 should you spec them properly, are you saying that the 35i won't hit the limiter?

Or are you saying with the limiters removed the 35d will hit a higher top speed above 150 mph? Going strictly by the gearing and a 4400 rpm limit for the 35d, it will top out at around 149 mph, if you can take it to 4600 rpm, gearing wise, it should hit 155 mph. So it's not going to go much above the 150 mph limiter anyway, even if you remove it.

Another point of equal relevance is that the diesel short block will not,the the average, have a heart attack for 343,578 miles, theoretically, while the 35i is good for only 239,789 miles. This is based on C-reactive protein testing done by Motor Trend. Sure seals the deal for me! I am overwhelmed by the aggregate logic of the Dieselers and today I will trade the 35i for the nearest 35d I can find. Then I will race it at Le Mans this year, unless renewal of my FIA competition license is held up by those irksome US-Franco politics.

Ya know I really really really don't have a problem what other folks drive and how they do it as long as they don't run me over, I enjoy having options. But when the bleeding hearts MT people come out the wood works it just cracks me up, you need to go back to the horse and buggy days so you can really feel the road crap you always talk about. It seems lately all I read on forums is fairy tale stuff about MT and high RPM and I would say 99 % are a lot of BS. I've had my share of MT units but in today's world (in the big city, traffic and all the stop and go signs) it is a yesterday thing when there was no cell phones, ipods, 1000 radio stations, nav screens and all the other distracting elements. "oh I wish they would put a MT in the X5, I would be the first one in line...BS" People get real!!! You need one hand for your big gulp and the other one is for the cigarette. Every time I see a post starting with the MT stuff I can smell the BS. Saturday morning rant, sorry, just cracks me up, lol..

Originally Posted by georgejm

Ya know I really really really don't have a problem what other folks drive and how they do it as long as they don't run me over, I enjoy having options. But when the bleeding hearts MT people come out the wood works it just cracks me up, you need to go back to the horse and buggy days so you can really feel the road crap you always talk about. It seems lately all I read on forums is fairy tale stuff about MT and high RPM and I would say 99 % are a lot of BS. I've had my share of MT units but in today's world (in the big city, traffic and all the stop and go signs) it is a yesterday thing when there was no cell phones, ipods, 1000 radio stations, nav screens and all the other distracting elements. "oh I wish they would put a MT in the X5, I would be the first one in line...BS" People get real!!! You need one hand for your big gulp and the other one is for the cigarette. Every time I see a post starting with the MT stuff I can smell the BS. Saturday morning rant, sorry, just cracks me up, lol..

Is "MT" in your post "manual transmission?" If so, how does that relate to this discussion? I'm trying to understand your point.

Originally Posted by tol4o

X5 is not a sport car, it's a heavy bulky SUV and don't tell me you can drive it as a sport car for real. Also DS mode on automatic transmission is a poor imitation of a real manual mechanical clutch transmission for people who can't drive stick shift.
Diesel engine fits better the SUV profile, but again if you think your X5 35i is a sport car and that makes you happy it's your personal preference
I don't know if that ever been tested, but by obeying the physical laws, if there is no speed limit the 35D wil reach higher top speed than 35i and the reason for this is the higher torque that will deliver enough power to overcome the air drag better

BTW when I need to break 0-60 records, to have fun, to have immediate responsiveness and high RPM I simply drive my M3 6 speed...

It's great that you can gave a M3 and a X5 these days. Some of us can't have both, so the SUV has to serve multiple purposes. While the X5 is no sports car, in DS and with Active Steering (and I assume Adaptive Drive, wish I'd had it) it's actually quite nimble feeling -- something I didn't feel at all in my 35d. It felt heavy and sluggish, despite all the torque to get it moving. Yes, now you can tell me how you hate having anything like Active Steering between you and the wheel and the road, as if the standard fly-by-wire steering was somehow more real. Same as a M3 with a stick? No, of course not, despite BMWs recent ads.

BTW, I drove a stick for 20 years on cars, trucks, and even some larger box trucks. I know how to drive a stick. The torque converter and the programming on the 8-speed is actually quite nice. Same as a stick? No, but close enough for most daily driving situations. The X5 does what I need it to do in DS mode. It moves quickly and nimbly when I need to, say to avoid a stopped line of traffic right in front of me. It downshifts quickly when I need to move, and it stays pretty well in the right gear I need it to be in.

Originally Posted by dcharnet

Is "MT" in your post "manual transmission?" If so, how does that relate to this discussion? I'm trying to understand your point.

I think he was responding to

Originally Posted by tol4o

X5 is not a sport car, it's a heavy bulky SUV and don't tell me you can drive it as a sport car for real. Also DS mode on automatic transmission is a poor imitation of a real manual mechanical clutch transmission for people who can't drive stick shift.

Originally Posted by georgejm

For me at the age north of fifty, buying the BMW X5d could be the best vehicle I have owned

Hey, at least we agree on one thing :-)

Originally Posted by Tlon

I think he was responding to

Yep, I was just having a moment, lol. I have been researching different sport cars lately for a "fun" car and all I hear everywhere I turn is " I would buy it if it had a MT" or "why does it not come with a MT". I have had MT"s in 240 z, VW"s, Porsche Cayman, and a host of others most of my life and had a blast in most of them so when I see a post about bashing if it's not a MT drives me nuts. Sorry, don't mean to highjack this crazy thread, lol. What it comes down to is most are full of s**t and would not buy one if it did came with one.

Aside from the whole 35i vs 35d debate (I own a 35d) the automatic vs manual argument is almost as ridiculous. It depends on the car, I've had Z06 corvettes with AT's and I loved them gobs of hp & torque and I could not have affected the acceleration or handling response by shifting it myself as the tranny was setup with an aggressive shift pattern. Conversely back in college I use to drive my girlfriends (early 80's version) RX-7 and it had a 5 speed manual and it needed it in order to maximize the usefulness of the meager hp & torque it possessed. Just wanted to chime in.

Originally Posted by ND40oz

Yup, I'm slowly switching all of my vehicles over to FI models due to the elevation in CO, makes such a huge difference..

I definitely find a boosted motor to be very beneficial in places like Colorado. I recently made a trip to Colorado to ski and I could feel the lack of power with my NA motor especially climbing those upgrades on the I-70.

you can add me to the list. Signed the paperwork today on a certified 2010.

Originally Posted by AndyX5d

you can add me to the list. Signed the paperwork today on a certified 2010.

Welcome aboard

Is there any data for year 2011 BMW diesel sales?
What is the ratio X5 diesel VS X5 gas orders? Just curious

Originally Posted by tol4o

Is there any data for year 2011 BMW diesel sales?
What is the ratio X5 diesel VS X5 gas orders? Just curious

Search around. There are numbers out there.

I bet there are more 35i models because they are cheaper and BMW constantly runs lease specials on them. Not to mention, I don't think I have ever seen a stripped out basic diesel X5 out there. Almost every 35i I see has no NAV, no privacy windows in the back, etc

Originally Posted by AutoUnion

Welcome aboard

thanks, can't wait to take delivery, hopefully Tuesday night.

Originally Posted by ductman

For me I wanted something different, majority of my mileage is interstate driving, the diesel
excels in that department, no kickdown of the trans necessary to pass or going up hills due to the tremendous torque, plus I can easily get 26-27mpg mpg not even trying at 80 mph speeds.

^^^^^^^^
THIS

Originally Posted by AutoUnion

Search around. There are numbers out there.

I bet there are more 35i models because they are cheaper and BMW constantly runs lease specials on them. Not to mention, I don't think I have ever seen a stripped out basic diesel X5 out there. Almost every 35i I see has no NAV, no privacy windows in the back, etc

Interesting.. I find it totally opposite.

Right now there are no incentives for the 35i and there is a $3,500 credit towards a 35d. Last month it was a $2,500 credit towards a diesel.

The link below you can find a 2010 sales for X5 35i/35D
http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/10/22/u-...elerate-to-38/

- I have a 5,000 pound boat/trailer. The 6 cylinder gasser isn't a realistic option. The money I'll save Vs a V8 is worth it.

- I love the Torque

- I can easily add another 60 HP by getting the ECU remapped (if I want to play with the V8's)

Originally Posted by Penguin

I freely admit it. The diesel is better, but not $3,500 better.

SO when the diesel credits were offered, I jumped at the chance in 2010 to get better performance and better mpg without paying more for it.

+1

I was willing to pay maybe $1,000 more for the diesel (all I wanted was the torque and cool engine noise). The "eco credit" made it the same price as the gasoline model, so my choice was easy.

No regrets. I'd probably pay $2,000 more for the diesel, now that I know how much I like it.

- Mike