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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 04-27-2012, 03:45 PM
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Stuck key in tumbler mechanism

What's the process for removing a stuck key? It works as it should, it just does not remove from the cylinder.
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Old 04-27-2012, 05:04 PM
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auto or stick??

you may not be all the way in park if auto, wch would not allow the tumbler to return to the full 'off' position. if so check the shift interlock.

if manual, then the tumbler may be jammed, or the key stuck. i'd try using a little wd40 or graphite in there and perhaps a pair of pliers to pull on the key.

if it is a damaged tumbler then it'll need to be replaced anyway. special order dealer part...and expensive...



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Old 04-27-2012, 10:32 PM
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^this
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:18 AM
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They key turns and moves as it should, it just does not exit the cylinder. I tried everything to remove it, I am wondering if there is a procedure to follow to get the cylinder and key out together.

Also, Who would buy an automatic car? Automatics are literally designed to destroy themselves, seems like a waste of money to me.
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:22 PM
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My tumbler went out in my old 328is and I had to swap it out and rechip/DME key EWS 1
NOT AN EASY JOB,You need a good dremal tool and a sawsall (maybe there's an easier way but that's what worked for me... I hope u find an easier fix man

I'm always careful with the M3 now when I put the key in after that ordeal
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:26 PM
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You may just need a new ignition switch, the orange round switch that connects to the tumbler fingers crossed
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This sounds exciting. I was going to work on that as well, since the last owner is the one who bought it. He probably realized what he was getting into and this is why he sold the car.

I'm still trying to find a solution to my EWS problems. Havent decided wether to get a new switch and tow it to BMW to get it programmed, or to replace the entire setup with whatever car I find the key switch on...

Exciting. Thanks.

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Old 04-29-2012, 01:46 PM
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BMW quoted me 1200$ total (6 years ago) btw labor at the dealership went from 75 an hour to 100 $ since then

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Old 04-30-2012, 03:49 PM
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This is the quote from a pa BMW dealership for my 1996 328is:

KEY Q $59.58
TUMBLERS $70.00
RING ANTENNA $40.37
ORING $ 1.66
IGN SWTCH $93.56
STEERING LOCK $140.64
EWS MODULE $123.02
DME $135.68
FRACTURE BOLTS $2.50 EA. QTY2

The labor if you want us to do the work is approximately 4.5 hours which is $382.50.
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My tumbler went out in my old 328is and I had to swap it out and rechip/DME key EWS 1
NOT AN EASY JOB,You need a good dremal tool and a sawsall (maybe there's an easier way but that's what worked for me... I hope u find an easier fix man

I'm always careful with the M3 now when I put the key in after that ordeal
Good Lord, you butchered the thing! It doesn't HAVE to be a difficult job.If you had done it by the book, you wouldn't have had so much trouble. There was no reason to cut the thing apart. All you had to do was slot the heads of the two security screws with the Dremel tool and remove them with an offset screwdriver.

When you put one back together there's no reason to use the OEM "security screws" that break the driving head off when they're tight. Use two Metric button head socket cap screws.
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