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Old 05-09-2012, 07:20 PM
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I did it as well. Ordered the 650i GC and will be trading in my F10 550i M Sport for it!
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:15 PM
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How did you buy a car without paying sales tax?
Buy it and register it in a state without sales tax.

i.e New Hampshire

People do it in New England all the time. Problem is that the police know and are actively looking for violators
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:20 PM
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Buy it and register it in a state without sales tax.

i.e New Hampshire

People do it in New England all the time. Problem is that the police know and are actively looking for violators
Unless you live in a zip code where out of state plates are 10-20 % of all cars.

On which note I saw a car with Alaska plates in 90210 on the way to work this morning.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:23 PM
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Unless you live in a zip code where out of state plates are 10-20 % of all cars.
One of the perks to living in FL, I guess
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:43 PM
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Buy it and register it in a state without sales tax.

i.e New Hampshire

People do it in New England all the time. Problem is that the police know and are actively looking for violators
So what address would I use in a tax free state?
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:46 PM
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So what address would I use in a tax free state?
I should've clarified. NH-border towns in Maine and Massachusetts actively look out for NH-plated cars at residences for a certain period. By all means, if you live in NH, register it there


This was an article from a couple years ago: http://northofboston.com/archive/x54...se-tax-evaders
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:07 PM
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:25 PM
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So what address would I use in a tax free state?
There are two options:
1) You need to own an address in a tax free or low tax state.
2) You need to own an active business with business address in one of the states and buy the car through the company (which usually rules out financing).

Either strategy is therefore applicable only to a few lucky guys. And if you are eligible, then there is absolutely nothing the cops can do. Just make sure your license, insurance and address match.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:00 PM
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I put in the order for September 3rd at the Welt.
Do you trust that all the electro-mechanical will be worked out in the first generation of the M5? Is it better to wait one MY?
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Old 05-10-2012, 05:04 AM
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I'm also interested in the new GC but besides the high cost compared to competitors, it's 4" longer and 9" wider than our cars. Interesting point about resale percentage Stealth.Pilot mentioned earlier---my CA ran this senario: he says I should be able to sell the 550 at one year for 80% of US-MSRP. So if MSRP is $80K and ED price $70K, I can sell it for $64K, So ownership cost for one year would be $500 monthly---then I'd do another ED with CCA rebate. I live live in a "tax friendly" state that only requires tax payment on the difference between the sold car and new car. I'd have $70K tied up in a car all the time but if rollover gets old I'd just keep the new car for several years or wouldn't buy another after selling. We've always "bought and held" cars but it sure would be fun getting a new one every year.
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:06 PM
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I'm also interested in the new GC but besides the high cost compared to competitors, it's 4" longer and 9" wider than our cars. Interesting point about resale percentage Stealth.Pilot mentioned earlier---my CA ran this senario: he says I should be able to sell the 550 at one year for 80% of US-MSRP. So if MSRP is $80K and ED price $70K, I can sell it for $64K, So ownership cost for one year would be $500 monthly---then I'd do another ED with CCA rebate. I live live in a "tax friendly" state that only requires tax payment on the difference between the sold car and new car. I'd have $70K tied up in a car all the time but if rollover gets old I'd just keep the new car for several years or wouldn't buy another after selling. We've always "bought and held" cars but it sure would be fun getting a new one every year.
It's a perverse effect of tax rates and ED pricing.

I reckon on the M5 you may be able to do this and not lose a thing, because the US deliveries are going for MSRP. ED is the only way to save.
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:13 PM
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I am thinking about GC. I was pretty sure it was 5 or 7 for my next ride. This 6 GC came out of nowhere and I am looking forward to seeing it in person.
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Old 05-11-2012, 10:56 AM
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I am considering the 650i GC for my next ED in a year and a half. However, I am still partial to the 550i as it provides more bang for my buck. I'm still undecided, it is too early to make up my mind now.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:22 AM
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I love my '12 650xi Coupe. About the only real downside is the embarrassingly unusable back seat, which is why I've kept a second passenger-friendly car at the ready. Having everything I love about my 6 Coupe (the sporty seating position, the incredible interior, B&O sound, etc.), but also having the ability to carry a few passengers when the situation warrants, would be perfect. I will definitely be considering the GC. Bring it on, BMW.
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Old 05-11-2012, 02:42 PM
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As a matter of principle, I only buy CPO BMW's. That said, I am set on switching to a Gran Coupe as soon as they start showing up in the CPO program. I love my F10 but miss the E63 that I traded in for the 5er. The is a special feeling when you get into those more limited production models. The 5 series is outstanding, but I don't get as excited when I walk towards it in the mornings on my way to work.

Now, the question will be if I go I6 or V8. My 535 is not too far off my 645 in terms of power and matches the 6er in 0-60 times, but the feeling of the V8 is completely different. These new Turbo I6 are not as refined as the old normally aspirated 6cyl engines, in fact, I think they sound like diesels at Idle.

We'll see, I hope the price of the GC drops enough as a CPO that will make the V8 proposition attractive enough. No matter what, I will trade my 5er for a version of the her Grand Coupe as soon as possible. I will make sure the dealer allows me to swap my Alpina wheels before the purchase though. Those are coming with me no matter what.

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IMO, the 5er is a better looker than the 6 GC. It just looks too awkward and imbalanced at some angles. Though, I've always liked E-Classes over CLS's (what can I say, I love timeless 3-Box stately Sedans VS 4-Doors with low roofs and horrible functionality-space usage disguised with the marketing gimmick "Coupe" to justify it ).

As for the 6 GC's price, let's just say BMW's profit margins on this car must be HUGE.
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Now, the question will be if I go I6 or V8. My 535 is not too far off my 645 in terms of power and matches the 6er in 0-60 times, but the feeling of the V8 is completely different. These new Turbo I6 are not as refined as the old normally aspirated 6cyl engines, in fact, I think they sound like diesels at Idle.
The new twin turbo V8 also sounds like a diesel at idle at least to me.
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I love my '12 650xi Coupe. About the only real downside is the embarrassingly unusable back seat, which is why I've kept a second passenger-friendly car at the ready. Having everything I love about my 6 Coupe (the sporty seating position, the incredible interior, B&O sound, etc.), but also having the ability to carry a few passengers when the situation warrants, would be perfect. I will definitely be considering the GC. Bring it on, BMW.
what wheels are those on your coupe?
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what wheels are those on your coupe?
OEM Style 367, 19s. I think it's the first time I've ever opted to keep the "standard" wheel on a BMW.
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:06 AM
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For those getting the GC, get the Msport package as well ... here is why ... hear that exhaust !!

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These new Turbo I6 are not as refined as the old normally aspirated 6cyl engines, in fact, I think they sound like diesels at Idle.
That's not because of the turbo. That's because of the direct injection.
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I can't wait to hear the exhaust note of the new M6!

Do you think it is close to the M-sport option?
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