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Old 03-28-2012, 10:54 PM
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100K Mile Service

So after many years and miles of faithful service from my X3 I have finally reached the 100,000 mile mark! She is still running strong and so far I have experienced no major problems. So I decided to spend a large amount of $$$ and do an all around preventive maintenance service. Heres a list of services I plan to do in May when I get home from pittsburgh where my X3 is waiting for me. Tell me if I missed anything and I will post pictures and what not of the progress.

Preventive maintenance:
  • Coolant system flush
  • Water pump replacement
  • Thermostat replacement
  • O2 Sensor Replacement
  • Oil change and filter replacement
  • Deflector pulley replacement
  • Accessory belt replacement
  • Accessory belt tensioner replacement
  • A/C belt tensioner replacement
  • A/C belt replacement
  • Steering fluid flush
  • Brake system flush and bleed
  • Front differential fluid flush
  • Rear differential flush
  • Transfer case flush
  • Automatic transmission flush, filter and gasket replacement
  • Full suspension inspection
  • Rust inspection
  • Electronics inspection
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:35 AM
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Might as well add thermostat as well as getting the coolant's expansion tank replaced too.

Had both go within a couple thousand miles of each other necessitating extra labor costs because they were in the same area... Oh yeah, Water pump too!

You probably have time though since mine didn't go till about 120k-130k miles
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Old 03-29-2012, 07:41 AM
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Good list! I would add the folllowing..
Water pump without a doubt.
Spark plugs - use NKG not Bosch
Power steering fluid - use Redline D4 Auto transmission fluid
Expansion Tank - I still have my original at 129,000, but it's on my list to do.
new shocks and struts soon - even if the current ones look ok.
O2 sensors - but you may have another 20k miles on the current ones
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:47 AM
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Good list! I would add the folllowing..
Water pump without a doubt.
Spark plugs - use NKG not Bosch
Power steering fluid - use Redline D4 Auto transmission fluid
Expansion Tank - I still have my original at 129,000, but it's on my list to do.
new shocks and struts soon - even if the current ones look ok.
O2 sensors - but you may have another 20k miles on the current ones
Why do you recommend the Redline D4 Autotrans fluid for the Power Steering vs. Pentosin? Just curious... i thought the PS fluid was real "touchy" especially if mixed..
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Old 03-29-2012, 01:35 PM
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Why do you recommend the Redline D4 Autotrans fluid for the Power Steering vs. Pentosin? Just curious... i thought the PS fluid was real "touchy" especially if mixed..
I'm really not sure if one is better than the other. I had Redline Auto Trans fluid laying around from my when I did my 330i power steering fluid change, so I used that.
Bavauto has it listed as an acceptable fluid for the power steering.
I think any automatic transmission fluid (ATF) that meets Dextron III specifications is ok to use. Also, the cap on the power steering reservoir may say whether or not auto trans fluid is ok to use.
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:50 PM
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Good list! I would add the folllowing..
Water pump without a doubt.
Spark plugs - use NKG not Bosch
Power steering fluid - use Redline D4 Auto transmission fluid
Expansion Tank - I still have my original at 129,000, but it's on my list to do.
new shocks and struts soon - even if the current ones look ok.
O2 sensors - but you may have another 20k miles on the current ones
I will deff add water pump but I will probably do that by the end of summer I also will be working on our e30 m52 swap putting all new suspension parts on including a coil over kit with camber plates and adjustable struts.
Why don't you like Bosch plugs? I have used them before without an issue.
I have already replaced shocks and struts when I did my H&R Springs but I can add it to the list. Might as well throw the O2 sensor on there as well

I plan on posting a parts list once I complete it! so stay tuned
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:16 PM
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I guess I just always heard bad things about the Bosch plugs from the e46 boards. And since its the same m54 engine, I've always just avoided them. I don't have any personal experience with Bosch plugs being bad. Maybe I shouldn't have spoken so quickly.

Also, I'm still on original O2 sensors at 129,000, so those may be less critical too.
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Old 03-29-2012, 06:45 PM
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I guess I just always heard bad things about the Bosch plugs from the e46 boards. And since its the same m54 engine, I've always just avoided them. I don't have any personal experience with Bosch plugs being bad. Maybe I shouldn't have spoken so quickly.

Also, I'm still on original O2 sensors at 129,000, so those may be less critical too.
If I'm not mistaken the Bosch Platinum 4 prong are the OEM spark plugs that are installed in M54 only BMW is stamped on the side. This is according to the good folks at bimmer specialist. I will hold off on the o2 sensor for now save some money so I can spend more on the fluids. The fluids are adding up quickly. $50 - $60 for the transfer case fluid 1L and over $100 for tans fluid along with $50 for oil and another $20 for the coolant not including the front and rear diff fluid and all the little nuts and bolts I will be replacing as well.
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:11 PM
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Since I'm hanging onto my X3 for awhile, I figured I'd eventually need O2 sensors...

About two months ago, Rockauto was clearing out some parts and I found what I hope to be all 4 O2 sensors for ~$200 shipped.

I bought them and I'll be holding onto these till I need them... 145,000 miles and still don't need them yet...

Hope you find a similar deal through whatever place you get parts from!

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Old 04-02-2012, 09:39 AM
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Thats heck of a DEAL! I guess I gotta start visiting Rockauto often.
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Since I'm hanging onto my X3 for awhile, I figured I'd eventually need O2 sensors...

About two months ago, Rockauto was clearing out some parts and I found what I hope to be all 4 O2 sensors for ~$200 shipped.

I bought them and I'll be holding onto these till I need them... 145,000 miles and still don't need them yet...

Hope you find a similar deal through whatever place you get parts from!
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:57 AM
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I have used rock auto before but Im a little weary when it comes to parts that matter. For instance I probably wouldn't buy a water pump from them but I have used them to purchase rotors at an incredibly low price and have found nothing wrong with them. I like to keep my engine parts as stock as possible (unless there is a better part by a name band manufacture) but OEM prices are outrageous.

Does anyone know what type of fluid you use in the front and rear diff?
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:32 PM
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Does anyone know what type of fluid you use in the front and rear diff?
Synthetic 75W90. I used Castrol Syntec in mine though I'll probably go with Redline the next time.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=133&pcid=4

http://www.redlineoil.com/news_article.aspx?id=13
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:50 PM
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Let me know how much this would be....I bought a 2005 X3 with 40,801 miles and a carfax only shows one maintenance record at 34K miles. Of course, the previous owner could have done lots of stuff himself...but dunno.
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Old 04-02-2012, 07:24 PM
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Let me know how much this would be....I bought a 2005 X3 with 40,801 miles and a carfax only shows one maintenance record at 34K miles. Of course, the previous owner could have done lots of stuff himself...but dunno.
Carfax does not pick up all dealer or other service work. Some seem to report; others do not....not sure why. But I would never rely on Carfax for a complete maintenance record. Since BMW maintenance was free for the first four years, you'd think (hope?) prior owner had a dealer do it when needed. It just may be that Carfax did not pick up that service info from the dealer the PO used.

Good luck getting it sorted out.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:14 PM
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Good enough for me... ^ Thanks.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:52 PM
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Synthetic 75W90. I used Castrol Syntec in mine though I'll probably go with Redline the next time.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=133&pcid=4

http://www.redlineoil.com/news_article.aspx?id=13
+1 here for Redline as well.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:55 PM
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I have used rock auto before but Im a little weary when it comes to parts that matter. For instance I probably wouldn't buy a water pump from them but I have used them to purchase rotors at an incredibly low price and have found nothing wrong with them. I like to keep my engine parts as stock as possible (unless there is a better part by a name band manufacture) but OEM prices are outrageous.

Does anyone know what type of fluid you use in the front and rear diff?
Also, I'm a bit leery too, but at least it's one more place to price compare, and you can always google the name of the manufacturer of that particular part you're getting.
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:34 AM
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Well I have a lot to write back too...

Thank you usaret I was planning on going with redline I just was being lazy and didn't want to look up the type...

MADBMW I will have a parts list up soon with the total cost of service... I recently moved to a new home with a nice large garage so once I set up all the tools and what not I may even through up a few DIYs depending if the new coil over kit is in for the e30.

Wrongway Id say if its vital for the engine to run then stick with OEM. I figure if the OEM parts have lasted me over 100k miles than they must be doing something right. Spend the money where it counts. Buying things like rotors and such from rock auto isn't something you can really go wrong with but for any internal engine parts i.e..water pump, thermostat stuff like that I would go OEM or better.
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:13 AM
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.... Buying things like rotors and such from rock auto isn't something you can really go wrong with .....
As RockAuto offers so many inexpensive rotors, even for an X3, I'm not convinced that they are all of a quality you could be satisfied with.

This video clip highlights how the mass may be significantly less on some cheaper rotors - not all of them, but it might be difficult to find out which for an online purchase.

(You have to get by the short preamble/ chit-chat before the relevant stuff starts.)

http://www.motoringtv.com/quakerstat...,_good_or_bad?
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:16 PM
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Don't get me wrong... I'm not saying RockAuto is the best or anything. We're going to want different things in our vehicles and that is simply that.

I myself look at it this way... 145,000 miles and still going strong with OEM, if I get even half that life from a cheaper part, I'm long past 200,000 miles and the point where I care less about throwing good money into a car that isn't worth that much anymore.

I won't ever say going OEM is bad with BMW! ;-)
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:25 PM
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As RockAuto offers so many inexpensive rotors, even for an X3, I'm not convinced that they are all of a quality you could be satisfied with.

This video clip highlights how the mass may be significantly less on some cheaper rotors - not all of them, but it might be difficult to find out which for an online purchase.

(You have to get by the short preamble/ chit-chat before the relevant stuff starts.)

http://www.motoringtv.com/quakerstat...,_good_or_bad?

Trust me I don't cheap out when buying parts for my bmws. I also know how cheap rotors can be made out of cheaper metals and the weight not dispersed correctly causing a difference in mass. I stick the centric premium rotors with the powder coat. They work great and Ive used them before I found them on rock auto. They are powder coated which keeps the parts of the rotor not in contact with the pads from rusting.
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Old 04-06-2012, 06:56 AM
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Yeah, I was pretty happy when I found Centric rotors and Jurid pads on RockAuto.

Does make me curious if their other parts are as good, such as the Raybestos rotors I've seen in the high performance section, but I'll stick with BMW approved stuff since I'm very happy with what I have.
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The open differentials take Castrol SAF-XO. It may be purchased from many if not most BMW dealers in bulk if you supply an appropriate clean container for about $23/liter. I found some 3L plastic containers of bottled water that worked well.
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