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Old 05-17-2012, 09:47 AM
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Why the 2013 M6 lacks the technology of the 2013 650i

As I was thinking of placing an order for the new M6, I realize that a lot of the technology tidbits you can't get on it that is on the regular 640i/650i models. Things such as: Active Cruise Control, Parking Assistant, and Integral Active Steering. I'm wondering if anyone knows why these aren't options on the M6? Both the M6 and the 640i/650i have the same radar sensors, and cameras. The only upswing to the tech for the M6 though is the Speed Limit Info now available for the US. Any thoughts?
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:51 AM
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I'm thinking it has to do with the M differential and the performance modifications the make to the car. These changes probably mean that they'd have to redesign these tech features specifically for the M6. The 650xi doesn't get active steering and parking assistant, and I assume that has to do with the xDrive system - maybe because xDrive uses hydraulic rather than electric steering? Seems like both of these features would be tied to the electric steering, and redesigning for hydraulic would be costly if possible at all. Similarly, I think the M5/M6 use hydraulic steering for improved feedback, so the same rationale would apply.

This is all speculation on my part, but I think it kinda makes sense.
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:07 AM
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I'm thinking that brilliant German engineering does not transfer to sales/marketing.

The rigidity of the build process for BMWs are IMO always
an exercise in frustration of some sort.

The ONLY answer as what BMW allows and allots per build is the same
answer often given to a child


Because BMW/I said so. That's why.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:00 PM
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The Active Cruise Control is absolute buttah.

I would rather have a Dinan tuned 650 over an M6 for that alone. Integral Active Steering is another reason. I love it to death.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:26 PM
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I would think a "M" car would be all about performance and much less about the creature comforts. Assuming it is designed for those who want a true high performance "almost race" machine.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:59 PM
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I drove the e64 M. Didn't like it at all. I'd go for the Dinan tune over the M as well.
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I drove the e64 M. Didn't like it at all. I'd go for the Dinan tune over the M as well.
The new M5 is supposed to be a lot more off-the-track friendly than the old one. I'd imagine the M6 is the same. Gun to my head, I'd take an M6 every time if money were no object. I know its capabilities would be wasted on me, but that's never stopped me before.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:23 PM
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The new M5 is supposed to be a lot more off-the-track friendly than the old one. I'd imagine the M6 is the same. Gun to my head, I'd take an M6 every time if money were no object. I know its capabilities would be wasted on me, but that's never stopped me before.
I think you would take the M6 just for the leather upgrade
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Gun to my head, I'd take an M6 every time if money were no object. I know its capabilities would be wasted on me, but that's never stopped me before.
I have the same exact sentiment for red headed collegiate triplet sisters.
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I think you would take the M6 just for the leather upgrade
Added bonus... but the 560 hp and the 0-60 in likely < 4 seconds is the j!zz in my pants selling point

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I have the same exact sentiment for red headed collegiate triplet sisters.
Hahahahaha. Maybe fun for a night, but one crazy redhead freshman year got me past my redhead phase. That b!tch was crazy. Luckily my skillz ran her off to OH once I got fed up with her. Now she's in XZLR8's territory
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Hahahahaha. Maybe fun for a night, but one crazy redhead freshman year got me past my redhead phase. That b!tch was crazy. Luckily my skillz ran her off to OH once I got fed up with her. Now she's in XZLR8's territory
Thanks for that.
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Added bonus... but the 560 hp and the 0-60 in likely < 4 seconds is the j!zz in my pants selling point



Hahahahaha. Maybe fun for a night, but one crazy redhead freshman year got me past my redhead phase. That b!tch was crazy. Luckily my skillz ran her off to OH once I got fed up with her. Now she's in XZLR8's territory
So, it won't be a white wedding!?

Southey, PM me ALL details. I'll be on standby w pants off.

It's a nice day to start again!

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Old 05-17-2012, 09:11 PM
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Thanks for that.
I'm sorry. I didn't know you then. I apologize for sending such a disaster to Ohio.

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It's a nice day to start again!
I found sufficient ways to get over it

Although, I have to say, getting a 6er is the best coping mechanism ever. No matter the problem - it fixes it... although I wouldn't give that advice to someone worried about money. My Chevron tab makes my SBUX tab look tiny
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Southey, PM me ALL details. I'll be on standby w pants off.
I appreciate the 6er solidarity and support, but I don't want any part of that big gulp you were talking about earlier. This was a looooong time ago anyway.
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I would think a "M" car would be all about performance and much less about the creature comforts. Assuming it is designed for those who want a true high performance "almost race" machine.
Pan is correct. BMW is taking ques from Porsche on the M6. They don't want to weigh the car down with too many convenience/luxury features since M is more about high performance. I mean, can you even get a 911 with a start-stop button yet? The whole espritit de corps of the 911 starts with the left-hand key, and the various clicks and clangs you hear when you turn it.
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