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Old 06-03-2012, 09:41 AM
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2007 Side Mirror Actuator replacement

So an update....

My passenger side mirror stopped working a while ago.

Checked the fuses, all good.

Called up the local scrap yard and picked up a used mirror from a 2007 as well, but without the electric fold and dim features as I only needed the actuator inside.

STEP 0: lower passenger window, disconnect battery, block hatch from closing. - REMEMBER, THE AIRBAG is there!

Step 1: open the used mirror, remove the actuator. Challenges? The connector does not fit through the hole, so needed to remove the pins from inside and pull the flat cable out.

Step 2: remove the glass from my mirror. Push the mirror left and down, all the way. Insert fingers on the right side, firmly but not full power, pop out the glass. Disconnect heating and dimming cables.

Step 3: Open mirror. Fold mirror to the front and remove hidden screw underneath. Push the clip inside the mirror holding the outside mirror cover in place. Start pulling out the cover from the far side, firmly, no force till open.

Step 4: Remove side panel. (as shown in the vid by Supercourse (Thanks man!!!!)).

Step 5. Remove mirror cover. There is a clip on the bottom. Pull out the center part to release. Uncover mirror bolts. There are 2 under there + 1 under the rubber seal of the door.

Step 6: Disconnect mirror cabling. Remove the white 3pin connector as it wont fit through the whole of the mirror.

Step 7: Unbolt mirror and remove.

Step 8: Remove actuator and replace with other one making sure you connect everything you disconnected and tuck in cables nicely.

Step 9: all the above, in opposite order to put stuff back together.

Hours spent: 3.5

Difficulty: 10/10, because there are a lot of things you can break and you need to make sure the cabling is good.

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Hey fellow x3ers...

My passenger side mirror died a few days ago and after making sure its not a blown fuse I bought a used whole mirror from a local scrap yard. To my surprise though, to replace the actuators inside the mirror, the mirror needs to be removed and the bolts are covered by the plastic thing that runs behind the door panel! ( oh i miss my e30 now! ).)
So the queation is, how do you remove the door panel?
I have removed the screw behind the airbag labeled cap and another one under the arm rest. But im sure there are more cause the panel still sits firmly in place.

Any and all help will he appreciated a lot!

Thanks,

Jason
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:17 AM
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But im sure there are more cause the panel still sits firmly in place.
There are 4 to remove in your 2007, I believe ('04 - '06 models have 6 of them).

You have to take the trim off the grab handle to find the other 2.

This BSW speaker install video is quite good to illustrate that - except he initially forgets the one you did get under the armrest.



Good tips on avoiding damage and where to start pulling at the panel.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:23 PM
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Done!

Thanks so much for that vid!

I ll post the whole process with pics soon!

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Old 06-03-2012, 02:48 PM
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:18 AM
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Great write up, how did you get the plug off the end of the ribbon cable, thanks
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Old 11-15-2013, 01:44 PM
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I went through this on my old E46. Same process. Such a pain just for an actuator
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:56 AM
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Great write up, how did you get the plug off the end of the ribbon cable, thanks
No, had to cut

The plug came off but then didn't fit through the hole to remove the damn thing!

PS: if by ribbon you mean the flat cable, then yes, all went well there!

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Old 11-02-2015, 02:04 PM
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Fitted a new mirror actuator on the drivers side yesterday after reading this thread.

Yes, I had to cut off the old plug. Needed a guide wire to feed through the hole between teh inside and the mirror, to which I attached the ribbon cable and then pulled back through and fitted the white connector.

No need to remove the mirror housing from the door frame

Just be careful which actuator you order

I had previously erroneously ordered this one with the easy connector for $90



https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E83-X3-N52_3.0L/ES184228/

which is only from 10/2009 onwards


Instead of this one with the ribbon cables for $190



https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E83-X3-N52_3.0L/ES184191/

which is up to 09/2009


As far as I can tell, they are the same actuator just with different cables, so I am surprised as to the cost difference. Ribbon cable must be reaaalllly expensive (not a dig at ECS, as their competitors also have a similar price jump)
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Old 12-13-2015, 03:21 PM
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Similar problem, but before I start buying parts I'd like some input. My driver's side mirror stopped working. No adjustment and the folding function both quit. Passenger side still works. Adjustment, folding and tilt for reverse all still work on the right. Does this sound like the actuator discussed above? I'd have thought the adjustment and folding were two different motors. Thanks.
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Old 02-20-2016, 04:06 PM
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I was never able to get a response on how to determine if the problem was the actuator or the switch. With the cost of new parts in the neighborhood of $200, I was hesitant to buy anything without knowing what the problem actually was. Then a week or two ago, I was surfing around and found that ECS was running a sale on my actuator for ~$80 + shipping. I snatched one up, and today I got a chance to install it. Problem solved.

Big thanks to sjladopoulos for the installation instructions and the door panel removal video posted by Supercourse in this thread. This job would have been a lot tougher without that information.
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Old 05-24-2016, 08:52 PM
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You may want to consider buying a used mirror assembly as they can be less expensive than just the motor and skips the extra work of replacing the motor. My driver's side mirror stopped working and I had dealer check/estimate repair and I was quoted $900 plus to replace assembly. $450 for part. I found a used working one on eBay for $129 and free shipping. Was same color as mine, so no need to paint it. Watched a few YouTube videos on how to remove door panel. They were not good. Missed one bolt behind inside door panel and I think they did not do a good job explaining where to start pulling the panel off. Since the top edge clips are straight out, should have started there and then pull the side and bottom edges away from center to release clips, other wise lower clip brackets get pulled off the back of the panel.
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Old 08-01-2016, 01:22 PM
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Which mirror? Different connecting plugs on ones for sale

Driver's door mirror will not move/adjust.. assuming bad actuator motor. Passenger mirror moves/adjusts fine and tilts when reversing. Windows all operate normally, so also assuming good switch cluster.

I've found several inexpensive whole replacement mirrors on ebay but even though they state the same year range, they have different plugs.

So far I've seen:

1. Flat 3-lead white ribbon cable that only sticks out of the mirror by around 3 inches.
2. Black wrapped 3-wire cable with wide flat plug (the three wires only use about half the plug width) around 20-24 inches long.
3. Same wire/plug as 2, but much shorter (like the cable in 1.)
4. Has short white ribbon cable like 1 AND long 3-wire cable like 2.

I assume these are different due to different mirror features (power folding, heated, auto-dimming, etc.) but I'm not sure which ones I have... bought the vehicle used, no owner's manual. I'm pretty sure they are manual folding, but whether they're heated, etc. I do not know. I'm guessing since they don't power-fold they're also not heated or auto-dimming since these seem like even higher-end premium features. But, how to tell? Would there be a button to turn heated mirrors on/off? I've never seen the passenger mirror fold or dim, so that also leads me to believe these are power adjust only.

Assuming they are not heated, not power folding and don't auto-dim, which one of the three plug/cable combinations is the correct replacement?

Obviously I'm trying to figure this out without removing the door panel right now. Any info is appreciated!

Last edited by SnoopyFan; 08-01-2016 at 03:02 PM. Reason: added details.
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