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Old 06-16-2011, 05:37 PM
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Difference between PCD driving and 1-Day car control school?

ok, I received an offer for a free day at the Performance driving school but its not clear which school, car control school or M school.
I am going to assume is the lower of the 2.

So with that assumption, how is it different than the driving you do during the delivery program?
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:17 AM
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Long story short, it is a lot more driving time with more instruction... The delivery driving program is just an introduction to what we can do.

The delivery driving program is designed to demonstrate how the ABS brakes, DSC system work along with the handling capabilities of the vehicle.

In a 1 Day Car Control, you drive 335i's and still share a vehicle with another participant. instead of about 2 hours of drive time, you spend almost the entire day out on course doing various car control exercises. They will spend much more time explaining what is happening with vehicle dynamics, how to feel those situations and recover out of them (i.e. on the skid pad, you'll spend a lot of time learning what happens when you get understeer or oversteer and the proper technique to recover from that).

Hope that helps!
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:21 PM
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Cool. Thanks for the info.

How far out do I have to schedule it?
Im hoping that I can leverage the trip to pick up the car and get the school on the same trip.



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Old 06-20-2011, 05:54 PM
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:44 AM
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Sorry... Been on vacation for a week.

This will not be an easy task for you as both programs are scheduled by different departments. They don't offer the same driving schools everyday and your delivery date will be based on several factors.

The driving school can be scheduled anytime. The further out, the more available spots in a class. Depending on the time of year, they can fill up quickly. Scheduling for the driving schools is handled by a different company and is not associated with the delivery scheduling.

The delivery date will be determined based off the vehicles production. Available dates will depend on how soon the reservation is submitted by your center and our calendar availability based off of curent demand. All scheduling is done on a first come first serve basis from when the reservation was submitted. You will only have about a 2 week window from the first available date that is offered by us to take delivery. Therefore, hopefully there would be a driving school with availability that you would want to attend during this time frame to coinside with delivery.

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Old 06-08-2012, 09:18 AM
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Hi, did a search and thought this might be the thread to ask this question.

We had such a blast during our PCD last year, that now I would like to go to M-School.

I'm in the 'noob' category, from a track perspective. So as M-school is a little pricey (north of $3K, correct?), I was considering the two-day car control school to start with, as a more affordable option (this is $1,200 for the two days, I believe.)

Does the car-control school cover the same learning objectives as M-school, but use the the center's normal non-M e.g. 335 etc. cars? Or is there something special and particularly unique to M-School (other than, obviously, using M-cars) that drives that higher cost? (I understand there are also perks, i.e. the polo, helmet, etc. for M-School.)

I would consider a local HPDE through for example, BMW CCA, but ruled that out due to insurance considerations. Plus Greenville is only about a two hour drive from where we live.

Thanks for any input...
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Old 06-09-2012, 01:01 PM
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I know what you do in a 2 day M-school but that is the only course I've taken so I am not familar with the other alternative you are considering. I had driven several autocrosses when I took the M school but I am not real fast in autocrosses and I was not real fast in the M school. I don't think your experience level needs to dictate your school. I know the M school and I suspect the other schools teach understeer and oversteer correction. Understeer is easy, you just get off the gas. Oversteer is harder with more feel required to avoid over correcting. I've driven in snow quite a bit, mostly in cars without stability control, and fortunately it came back to me. I'd love a way to get a yearly refresher. I used to do that first snow in an empty parking lot.

The M-school has a couple racing type exercises on the upper wet skid pad. In one two cars chase each other around the oval (rat race). They start out 180 degrees apart and whoever catches the other car wins. The other exercise is figure 8s which are timed. This is the only thing I "won". So obviously it is the most fun.

Most of the 2 days is spent learning how to take corners or short sections of the track. Then you get to string it together and chase each other around the track.

I would guess that the non-M schools spend less time learning how to take corners and chasing each other and have some other exercises. My guess is that they also use the wet skidpads in the other schools because it reduces the cars on the main track.

Also remember the 2 day M school includes the hotel (Marriott) and at least part of the meals (I forget how many). If you add in all the extras the cost is more comparable but it costs more to operate M cars too (and they are more fun).

I'd do the M school if you enjoy learning to drive fast on a track. I'd do the other school if you aren't very interested in driving fast.

I believe the course outlines are on the website for the driving school (they don't say a whole lot, however).

Jim
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:01 PM
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Thanks Jim, much obliged.
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:57 AM
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to save money on the school, you should consider joining the BMWCCA. You could pay more than pay for the membership with the savings on the 2 day M school and there are a lot of other benefits to membership (Roundel, other discounts, club activities, discount on parts or a new bimmer).
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:21 AM
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Jim pretty much summed up what to expect in the 2 day M School and what makes up the price difference.

The Car Control schools incorporate defensive driving techniques (high speed lane changes, ABS braking exercises, etc....) instead of the racing techniques taught in the M Schools (corner entry, corner exit, proper line through corners, etc...). You also use 335i's for the driving instead of the M vehicles. The Car Control schools also teach understeer / oversteer on the skid pads and how to recover from each.

I would also recommend joing the BMWCCA as Jim mentioned. You would more than pay for your membership with the discount received on any of the schools.

Let me know if you need anything else
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