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Old 06-28-2012, 12:45 PM
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How many miles/Kms/hrs are too many per day?

I know that this is an enthusiast website, so I'm expecting higher than 'normal' numbers.

But for you, how many miles/kilometers/hours is the maximum you'd consider driving per day. Let's try to keep it practical, realistic and not excessively stressful/rushed.

For me, I'd say 4-5 hours (500kms/~300 miles) alone, or maybe up to 6 with someone else riding along.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:07 PM
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I know that this is an enthusiast website, so I'm expecting higher than 'normal' numbers.

But for you, how many miles/kilometers/hours is the maximum you'd consider driving per day. Let's try to keep it practical, realistic and not excessively stressful/rushed.

For me, I'd say 4-5 hours (500kms/~300 miles) alone, or maybe up to 6 with someone else riding along.
We plan our trip to drive no more then 4-5 hrs on drive day. And tree times we stay for 3 days in one city. But few times we drove more then that. They have very good rest areas with restaurants and news stands. YOu always can pull there and relax for 30 min.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:16 PM
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We're returning to the USA now after 3.5 weeks. What I experienced was what others before me advised. That is some trips take a lot longer than you expect. We planned to do 4 to 5 hours between destinations. While staying at each place for thre nights. Garmisch-Partenkirchen (GE) to Stresa (IT) took about 8 hours with only a one hour stop for lunch. Stresa to Zurich was also about 8 hours as we went a route over the Gimsel Pass. Nice scenery on both drives, but long and tiring. The other drives, Zurich to Trier to Nuremburg To Vienna to Munich were all a solid five to six hours. That's enough driving. While the roads are wonderful, the drivers mindful, traffic was steady and no time to gaze out the winow and relax. Felt a little too tired to enjoy the first night at each place.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:20 PM
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Really variable. If its every day, then 4, maybe 5. But that's pushing it. If its every third day, 6-7 is ok, with a lunch stop In between.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:35 PM
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Really variable. If its every day, then 4, maybe 5. But that's pushing it. If its every third day, 6-7 is ok, with a lunch stop In between.
It depends on the purpose of the drive. 6-7 hours in the context of actually having a leisurely holiday is too much. If you want to get up at a reasonable time and enjoy breakfast, you're not going to be on the road any earlier before 9:30. Three hours would put you at a lunch stop by 12:30, plan an hour for lunch and you're back on the road by 1:30. If driving 7 hours you won't be at your destination until 5:30. That's your day. No chance for little more that getting turned around for dinner. Museums will be closing, etc.

If 3 hours, you can be where you're going by lunch time.

4-5 is still mid-afternoon allowing time at your destination, but if you want to stop and do something along the way may be too much.

6-7 hours is plenty doable in terms of the actual driving, just be aware that that will consume your day unless you get up at the crack of dawn (which is not my idea of vacation.)

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Old 06-28-2012, 03:05 PM
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Yeah, I designed my route to have maximum driving times of 2-5 hours each day with areas every few that allow me to stop for 2 days and do side trips.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:20 PM
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Keep in mind not all driving is equally taxing mentally or physically. Cruising on the highway is much less demanding than carving twisty mountain passes in tight quarters(some one-laners on those mountain roads). Also will you be in a big comfy 5-7er or a cramped Z4/1er?
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:22 AM
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We stayed at several places at the beginning of our ED, and then camped for a week out at one of my favorite hotels at the nothern edge of the black forest. We did day trips all over SW Germany. We varied the drives between the Autobahn and through the woods for some variety. It was much less tiring going back to a familiar place and not constantly checking in and out.
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:25 AM
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You mean between one stop to another? Correct? 4~5 hours sound reasonable. That way you would not get too tired, waste too much time on road despite it supposed to be great driving experience and bore your companion's eyes out. Say if I am saying 3 ~ 4 nights at one location, there is a good chance there may be no driving at least 1 day or more.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:48 AM
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Some really good points here on driving energetics. For me, the biggest drag on energy is checking in/out and unpacking/packing. If I were staying in one hotel for 3-4 days, I would be happier that a pig in poop doing 6-7 hours a day of spirited driving about the countryside. That is in addition to the time at stops for a snack, photo ops, lunch, etc.

Night driving on unfamilar back roads where recognizing and understanding road signs is not instinctual and driving in urban sections during periods of traffic are significantly different. Those kill me in very short order. Now, as pointed out above, this would not leave much time for museums, cathedrals, etc, which I'm sooooo over with personally.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:13 PM
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Also remember that it is possible to over-plan this. When we were lost at several points crossing Switzerland in 2010, it not only added several hours to that day's drve (estimate 4.5 hrs; actual about 8-8.5 hrs), but it also upped the stress leval. I was glad we had booked two nights in a luxury hotel in Stresa. Even though it was probably our least favorite city on the trip, it was relaxing and enjoyable, helping to bring back our equilibrium.
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:43 AM
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Most of my ED trip comprised of 300 mile days, with at least one rest/site-seeing day between drive days. The only exception was the drive before drop off. I drove longer that day to be within 150 miles of the drop off.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:26 AM
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The obvious answer centers around whether your vacation is focused more around seeing sites/exploring culture or about driving. If the former, I'd say 2-4 hours max every few days. If its the later, the sky is the limit (or more accurately your endurance is your limit).
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:43 PM
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I'd look more at "time" than "distance". You can eat up 150 miles on the autobahn in..uhh...an hour. You can spend an hour in Tuscany and cover 25 miles.

If we are doing "change hotel" chains (drive to new town, hotel + explore, drive to new town, hotel + explore, etc), I'd suggest no more than 2-3 hrs. You will lose a lot of time checking in/out of hotels and getting situated, so you may feel rushed in the towns.

If you are transitioning to a new location to spend several days, 5 - 8 hrs isn't unrealistic and can be doable, but as others have said, it depends on the driving type. 8 hrs on the autobahn isn't a big deal. 8 hrs on mountain twisties could be a bit tiring.
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:23 PM
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we found no more than 3 hours per day was good for us unless staying in same place for at least 4 nites
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:22 PM
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My longest days were ~300 miles but I planned for most drives to run between 100-200 miles between stops.
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Old 07-10-2012, 05:06 PM
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We drove 6000 km over 21 days so we averaged 285 km per day. The 3 hour days were not bad but a few 7 hour trips were a bit much. What can really wear you out is driving through the cities such as Lyon, Zurich and Geneva. Traffic can be really bad, add that to the traffic circles with 8 roads going in and out of them, narrow roads and the constant tailgating. We also did this trip with 2 kids (9 and 12). But we enjoyed the trip.
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I agree with the comments so far.
A couple of other points, what kind of driving are you use to. I live in the boonies down a twisty road, for me mountain passes are relaxing, city driving is stressful. For a fester from NYC it's propably the opposite.
Alaska is 10 hours different than central europe, so I take 2 or 3 days to sync. I try to limit the first days drive, wait until I'm fully adjusted to a new time zone. Again someone from the east coast is only dealing with a 6 hour difference, so they could be more aggresive on day one.
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:48 PM
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How many miles/Kms/hrs are too many per day?

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I know that this is an enthusiast website, so I'm expecting higher than 'normal' numbers.

But for you, how many miles/kilometers/hours is the maximum you'd consider driving per day. Let's try to keep it practical, realistic and not excessively stressful/rushed.

For me, I'd say 4-5 hours (500kms/~300 miles) alone, or maybe up to 6 with someone else riding along.
I did @500 KM per day twice last week (from Munich to Interlaken through Swiss Alps) It took about 8-9 hours with lots of 'kodak' moment stops. The drive was a bit tiring towards end of day but certainly not stressful and well worth it !!
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I'm a morning person, and I loves me some big European lunches (with wine and beer), so I tend to do most of my driving on ED trips between 8am and 12-1pm.
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