All-New BMW F31 3 Series Sports Wagon - Arrives at US Dealers Spring 2013

Count me in... I'll trade the E61 for the F31

Originally Posted by reidconti

Sorry, but no. Practically guaranteed that BMW will offer it with a 6MT. BMW sold the 2007 530ixT without a manual, but then offered a manual option on the 2008 535ixT. If they sell a car like that with a stick, they'll sell the F31 with one. The commenter who mentioned the 335d; well, that was a bit absurd, since it was BMW's first re-entry to the diesel market in the US.

The other commenter who said Audi and BMW are sticking with manuals; Audi's not, they dropped the 6MT on the B8 Avant which is why I don't own one today. And they're ditching the Avant for the allroad, now with more slushbox. And you can't get anything but an A3 in the US with DSG, you have to get the crappy autobox.

To the above poster, there are pictures ALL OVER the internet showing the cargo area of the F31.

I have a 2007 530 xiT 6MT - so some must have come over - thank god!

drove a 2013 Audi Allroad loaner this afternoon (my buddy's Audi S8 is in the shop for an oil change).

Loved the Allroad...beautiful interior...aluminium everywhere. Aluminium push button start next to gear shift.

Dash angled towards driver. Very solid and tight, perfect fit and finish.

Handled quite well too, nearly as good as my 2009 328.

Should be a real competitor to the F31.

Originally Posted by tagheuer

drove a 2013 Audi Allroad loaner this afternoon (my buddy's Audi S8 is in the shop for an oil change).

Loved the Allroad...beautiful interior...aluminium everywhere. Aluminium push button start next to gear shift.

Dash angled towards driver. Very solid and tight, perfect fit and finish.

Handled quite well too, nearly as good as my 2009 328.

Should be a real competitor to the F31.

It's a bummer that the Allroad has entirely replaced the A4 avant, but it is *definitely* a looker.

I'd be concerned about Audi reliability much more so than BMW, but you can always buy new and ditch it when the warranty is up.. otherwise, I'd buy a used Audi as long as it saved me enough money to cover any possible costs

On the one hand, the A6 allroad was so cool, with its air suspension, 2.7T or V8, ... on the other hand, the air suspension AND the 2.7T were very trouble-prone.

The A4 allroad is more of a plastic-cladded version of 'the real deal' so I can see why the A6 Allroad people are completely unimpressed.. that said, I bet it'll sell like hotcakes.. and not many people need skidplates on their wagon.

Between the plastic cladding (Pontiac, anyone?) and the jacked up ride height, I lost all interest in the Allroad. I'll take a plain old A4 Avant any day. Too bad that ditched it completely in the US instead of making it a special order.

Originally Posted by OBS3SSION

Between the plastic cladding (Pontiac, anyone?) and the jacked up ride height, I lost all interest in the Allroad. I'll take a plain old A4 Avant any day. Too bad that ditched it completely in the US instead of making it a special order.

For $1,475 you can pay for the option of getting rid of the plastic trim with the "full paint finish option".

So for $1500 you can make your all road look like an Avant? FU AUDI

Originally Posted by 3ismagic#

For $1,475 you can pay for the option of getting rid of the plastic trim with the "full paint finish option".

So for $1500 you can make your all road look like an Avant? FU AUDI

I'd have to cut the springs too...

Hopefully Jon relays word that we want a stick. Give me a shout when BMW offers one in the F31, Jon, I'll be happy to take a roadtrip down to SB to place my order

Any idea when can we start putting in an order? Thinking to do ED too.

Originally Posted by iSpY

Any idea when can we start putting in an order? Thinking to do ED too.

It will be at least late Q4 '12 or early Q1 '13 before any orders are taken. Hope to see some solid info in the next 4-6 weeks. This is based on the timetable that was used for the F30 roll out.

Originally Posted by Billd104

It will be at least late Q4 '12 or early Q1 '13 before any orders are taken. Hope to see some solid info in the next 4-6 weeks. This is based on the timetable that was used for the F30 roll out.

Ok. Btw, does anyone know how is the wagon lease numbers look like when compared to the sedan in general (ie E90 vs E91)? Just want to know whether the cost will be similar to what we are seeing wight eh 328i right now

Usually a bit more. Wagons usually have a slightly lower residual value.

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

Usually a bit more. Wagons usually have a slightly lower residual value.

What he said!!

Anyone hear anything about the F31? We are getting into the time frame that we should be seeing some details about this since they should be on sale in Q1'13

Originally Posted by Billd104

Anyone hear anything about the F31? We are getting into the time frame that we should be seeing some details about this since they should be on sale in Q1'13

Based off the release of the F30 earlier this year, I would expect pricing and option sheets in November.

Another vote to BMWNA to offer the manual trans!

Dear BMW NA (I'm sure your are reading these!),

My E46 wagon with 5MT is topping 160k miles in the next few weeks. I will be looking to replace this car in the next 1-2 years with another wagon that has a manual transmission. If you don't offer a manual in the F31, I will be taking my money to the used car market (e91) or to another make.

If I had my preference, I'd like my F31 with 6MT and in the 320d, dancing on the turn table at die Welt where I will pick it up!

Originally Posted by gesoffen

Dear BMW NA (I'm sure your are reading these!),

My E46 wagon with 5MT is topping 160k miles in the next few weeks. I will be looking to replace this car in the next 1-2 years with another wagon that has a manual transmission. If you don't offer a manual in the F31, I will be taking my money to the used car market (e91) or to another make.

If I had my preference, I'd like my F31 with 6MT and in the 320d, dancing on the turn table at die Welt where I will pick it up!

What another make?

We're in december now. Pricing/Options sheet? Possibly combos of engine/trans?

Weirdly missing, as we see an uncovered gran turismo 3-series. Now I'm concerned

Originally Posted by JoeFromPA

We're in december now. Pricing/Options sheet? Possibly combos of engine/trans?

Weirdly missing, as we see an uncovered gran turismo 3-series. Now I'm concerned

My next guess would be NAIAS starting Jan 14th.

Originally Posted by Itgb

My next guess would be NAIAS starting Jan 14th.

Agreed. We'll be there covering BMW, as soon as we have the information, you will have the information.

Tim

Still no pricing information on the f31?

Dream on

Originally Posted by gesoffen

If I had my preference, I'd like my F31 with 6MT and in the 320d, dancing on the turn table at die Welt where I will pick it up!

Pricing should be coming out before the Detroit auto show. I would expect it any day now.

Tim

Tim,

Have you seen any confirmation that a 6mt is off the table for any wagon trim?