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Old 07-20-2012, 06:34 PM
ArjayA ArjayA is offline
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2004 X3 2.5i Transmission Fluid Change... WTF is wrong with my fill plug?

hey guys, I'm new to the forum. I picked up my x3 about a month ago and decided that I wanted to change the ATF. Did a bunch of research about what fluid to use, the procedure and what not so I thought I was all good to do it today. Apparently my X3 had other plans.

I started off by looking for the fill plug, which I thought i found (see image one).

I noticed that the plug was recessed in a hole instead of visible at the surface so I took a pic to see how it looked like. (see image 2).

When I saw that, I knew I was **** out of luck but I tried cleaning it with WD40 to see if the torx pattern would appear, but it didn't. It looked like a small circle, no pattern at all. (see image 3).

So does anyone know what's going on? I made sure that I didn't miss any other bolts that could have been the fill plug, it was the only one that made sense. Another WTF is when I looked up the parts on Real OEM LINK they didn't outline what 7 and 8 were, and I didn't see 7 when I was looking for it on the transmission.





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Old 07-21-2012, 07:22 AM
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I thought you had to suck out the fluid via an access hole on top? Maybe recalling this wrong however.
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:45 AM
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Haven't done the transmission fluid change myself, but looking at the realoem diagrams I see:

- for the 5-speed unit, that thing you indicate is called a sealing cover (1st. link below)

- could #10 be the fill plug (a hex nut, not internal hex) as that doesn't show up on the later 6-speed unit?

- for the 6-speed transmission, the fill plug is clearly indicated and is a bit higher up from the pan (2nd. link)
- hard to see on the 5-speed diag. where that #10 actually is, but about the mid-point and higher up from the pan than where you were looking

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...90&hg=24&fg=15

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...03&hg=24&fg=15
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:59 PM
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Haven't done the transmission fluid change myself, but looking at the realoem diagrams I see:

- for the 5-speed unit, that thing you indicate is called a sealing cover (1st. link below)

- could #10 be the fill plug (a hex nut, not internal hex) as that doesn't show up on the later 6-speed unit?

- for the 6-speed transmission, the fill plug is clearly indicated and is a bit higher up from the pan (2nd. link)
- hard to see on the 5-speed diag. where that #10 actually is, but about the mid-point and higher up from the pan than where you were looking

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...90&hg=24&fg=15

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...03&hg=24&fg=15
Thanks for the reply, at least now I know what the thing I was looking at was lol. If the fill plug is #10 then they put that in a stupid spot hah, I didn't even see anything obvious when I looked up higher, but I'll have to take a second look.

I still find it really odd why the 2.5i trans fill location is so off compared to other bmw that use the same transmission. It's usually in a location similar to this from what I've seen:
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:19 PM
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haven't had much time to look further in to it, but I was looking at the RealOEM diagram again (LINK) and just noticed the disclaimer at the bottom: "Items pictured but not listed are not installed on your vehicle."

Which explains why the numbers 7 and 8 aren't labeled. I know that 8 is the fill plug on other cars that use the same transmission. And looking at the top of my first picture I can see a plug that doesn't have a pattern but it matches the location of where 8 would go. I wonder if i can replace that with a fill plug assuming that plug can be taken out.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:40 PM
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Same thing applies to the differentials - only the other way around.

Some have a proper drain plug and some have a blank - so you have to drain and fill through the one plug.

The question is .... if that blank can be removed (without use of a drill) will the hole be already threaded?

Might be risky.

Last edited by Supercourse; 08-09-2012 at 12:42 PM.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:46 PM
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Same thing applies to the differentials - only the other way around.

Some have a proper drain plug and some have a blank - so you have to drain and fill through the one plug.

The question is .... if that blank can be removed (without use of a drill) will the hole be already threaded?

Might be risky.
ah yeah good call, I don't think I will risk taking it out in case there's no thread.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:00 AM
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after digging around a bit more I realized that the fill plug is number 10 on the diagram. Supercourse called it.

I figured it out by looking at an X5 transmission fluid change DIY and saw that the fill plug was a 17mm outer hex which is number 7 in this diagram: LINK. This isn't installed in the x3, but number 10 is the same part number as number 7. Can't believe it took me that long to realize that *facepalm*. Now i just have to locate it on my car.
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