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X3 F25 (2011 - current)
The latest X3 brings some added style and some new features to the BMW SUV family. Talk about the new F25 now!

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Old 07-27-2012, 01:54 AM
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Black Panel Display on X3 F25

To my surprise I discovered that Black Panel Display only comes with the Nav option. I feel cheated, as I am taking delivery of my non Nav fitted X3 in August. The BPD would have been nice.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:09 AM
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Instead of taking something you don't like it, don't you have option to cancel the order and place fresh order.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:48 AM
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It takes 3 months for a X3 to get to South Africa. I will live with the pain
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:44 AM
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3 months pass by quickly.
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Old 07-31-2012, 02:16 AM
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is Black Panel Display?

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Old 07-31-2012, 11:27 AM
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is Black Panel Display?

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He means the Navigation Screen.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:15 AM
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OH right - oops, thanks :-)

I thought all X3 came with the screen (Black Panel Display ;-). The only difference being that the professional sat nav has a larger screen, versus the standard (6"?) screen which, even if you don't have even the basic nav, displays the car menu etc...
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:32 AM
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Black panel display is the extended LCD in the instrument cluster. See writeup below.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t...echnology.html
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:05 AM
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Black panel display is the extended LCD in the instrument cluster. See writeup below.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t...echnology.html
Ahhh - nice update, thanks. Now I know :-)

Yes - that BPD is quite nice if you get the brightness settings right.

Even better is the HUD, I just wish they would put some more thought in to the HUD to stop that dammed tunnelling effect when sun shines on the HUD emitter.

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Old 08-01-2012, 04:03 AM
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I thought Black Panel Display was necessary for the the display of the regenerative braking info if you have the latter as in option. In South Africa regenerative braking is standard.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:53 AM
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I can confirm, if you do NOT take the prof nav then you don't get black panel display. Here is a pic from my 5 day old x3 that had no nav but has brake regen.
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:23 AM
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OH right - oops, thanks :-)

I thought all X3 came with the screen (Black Panel Display ;-). The only difference being that the professional sat nav has a larger screen, versus the standard (6"?) screen which, even if you don't have even the basic nav, displays the car menu etc...
I thought the same and hadn't realized this when I ordered my X3 2 weeks ago : so when you have Nav and BPD, the instruments or "dials" are all virtual or numeric ?? I'd like to see side by side pics of an X3 with and without. I've looked on both BMW Canada and USA web sites and found little info on this topic...
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:20 AM
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So here's the thing.

I just got delivery of my shiny new X3 35d with pretty much everything on it :-)

It did NOT come with full black panel display, even though I have professional navigation and HUD and most other boxes ticked (if not all except bloody heated steering which because of that stupid vibrating steering wheel for lane change / acc).

I'm curious how other people have it (if that's true). The only further screen real estate versus my old x3 f25 is the bottom of the speedo console is all LED screen across the bottom.
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Old 12-17-2014, 07:31 AM
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Update to this - I did notice that when the car is off, it's difficult to see the speedo numbers, but they are NOT part of a screen, rather they are just "gaps" where a light shines through when the car is active. So *not* BPD, just a clever trick :-)

Shame that - I paid the buggers enough :-)
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Old 12-17-2014, 12:28 PM
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Definitive answer

It's fairly simple really, although BMW don't seem to be able to communicate it!?

In a standard vehicle without Sat Nav you get the standard analogue instruments.
If you upgrade to a vehicle with Sat Nav, this gives you 'partial' black panel display as shown in Hjno72's photo.
To get Full Black Panel (where you only see two 80% complete chrome rings in the instrument panel when the ignition is off) you need to specify HUD.
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:05 PM
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Wish we had this in the states. I would assume the instrument cluster is going partial or full digital on the 2017 redesign anyways.
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:34 PM
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It's fairly simple really, although BMW don't seem to be able to communicate it!?

In a standard vehicle without Sat Nav you get the standard analogue instruments.
If you upgrade to a vehicle with Sat Nav, this gives you 'partial' black panel display as shown in Hjno72's photo.
To get Full Black Panel (where you only see two 80% complete chrome rings in the instrument panel when the ignition is off) you need to specify HUD.
I said above, my car has everything, HUD included. I don't got no black panel though!!

Something you guys in US get but not Europe? I can't imagine that ...
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:02 PM
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I thought the same and hadn't realized this when I ordered my X3 2 weeks ago : so when you have Nav and BPD, the instruments or "dials" are all virtual or numeric ?? I'd like to see side by side pics of an X3 with and without. I've looked on both BMW Canada and USA web sites and found little info on this topic...
I have HUD and Nav in Canada. No full digital display - I have the full width LCD strip at the bottom, but dials and needles are still old skool.

Still a step up from wife's 328i with the partial LCD at centre and right of bottom.

Sat in a F15 X5 at dealership last Saturday, the full digital panel looks sweet.
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:02 PM
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Wish we had this in the states. I would assume the instrument cluster is going partial or full digital on the 2017 redesign anyways.
+1 wish we had this in Canada.
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:20 PM
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I have HUD and Nav in Canada. No full digital display
You have the extended content black panel. I don't think BMW offers the full digital display in the X3.
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