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Old 08-27-2012, 08:48 PM
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Thumbs up Enabling HUD Entertainment List and Telephone

One of the first things I noticed after picking up my F10 is that it did not have the radio menu and telephone options in the HUD like the F30 did. I figured that this should be a simple one to code and turns out that it was pretty straight forward although there is still some work to do.

In order to get these to work the following options in the KOMBI module need to be coded:

Section 3000
- HUD_ENTERTAINMENT_ENABLE to aktiv (enables radio menu)
- HUD_TELEFONANRUF_ENABLE to aktiv (enables recent calls list to be displayed)

There is an additional setting for HUD_TELEFONBUCH_ENABLE that should enable the full contact list to be displayed, but it didn't seem to do anything (it may be that it is either the recent calls or the full phone book can be displayed, but not both, however I am just speculating as I have not tried this).

There is one more setting in the HU_NBT module under section 3000 for HUD_ENTERTAINMENTLIST. When this is set to active a checkbox will appear under the settings -> Heads Up Display -> Displayed Information menu for "Entertainment/Telephone" however the checkbox cannot be selected. Although the box can't be selected, the HUD still shows the screens. I have a 2013 F10 which replaced the HU_CIC module with the HU_NBT module. The option for HUD_ENTERTAINMENTLIST may be in the HU_CIC, but I am unable to verify.

I have attached a few pictures of this working in my car, but as always try/use at your own risk.
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:38 PM
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:58 AM
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Cool !!!

Are these options available in 2011 models (F10 528i Feb 2011 Built)
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:48 AM
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Sweet! Trying this tonight on my 2012 F10. I will look for HUD_ENTERTAINMENTLIST in the HU_CIC and let you know.
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:47 PM
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So Nice! I will try this later on my 535i
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:19 PM
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I could not seem to locate:

HUD_ENTERTAINMENT_ENABLE
HUD_TELEFONANRUF_ENABLE

in KOMBI, 3000

I was also unable to locate:

HUD_ENTERTAINMENTLIST

in HU_CIC, 3000

This is on my 2012 F10 (550i). Anyone else? Maybe this is just available with 2013+?
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:37 PM
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This was added with the 2013 models, as part of the next generation Navigation / iDrive. At the hardware level, KOMBI is still KOMBI, but HU_CIC is now HU_NBT. So, it may be possible that a full dealer programing of the car with 47.x will flash KOMBI and HU_CIC with new firmware, and then these entries will appear, or it may be, particularly in the case of the Head Unit, that HU_CIC can not be flash updated o HU_NBT. It's too soon to say. We need a 2011 / 2012 model with HUD to be fully programmed with 47.x and see what the affect is.
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Old 08-28-2012, 04:39 PM
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@falcongeek; What are the names of your Kombi and HU_NBT CAFD Files?
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:52 PM
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@falcongeek; By chance does your car have SLI (Speed Limit Info), Options 8TH and 8TD?
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:05 PM
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@falcongeek; What are the names of your Kombi and HU_NBT CAFD Files?
KOMBI: CAFD_00000069_009_000_042
HU_NBT: CAFD_00000DED_001_019_008

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@falcongeek; By chance does your car have SLI (Speed Limit Info), Options 8TH and 8TD?
I do not have SLI.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:25 PM
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Sweet feature! I just coded this to a late build July F10 with HU_NBT module and everything worked flawslessly
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:13 PM
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Sweet feature! I just coded this to a late build July F10 with HU_NBT module and everything worked flawslessly
Does the checkbox for "Entertainment/Telephone" in the Displayed Information screen in the HUD settings work for you?
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:08 AM
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His music selection was able to be seen on his HUD, so I think it works. I didn't check the box you are speaking of. I will ask him
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:20 AM
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Thanks Falcongeek and cn555ic

Love this new feature!

We only coded this part so far:

Section 3000
- HUD_ENTERTAINMENT_ENABLE to aktiv (enables radio menu)
- HUD_TELEFONANRUF_ENABLE to aktiv (enables recent calls list to be displayed)

Right now i notice the radio menu showing up on the HUD and incoming phone calls. Haven't had enough time to really play with it yet but this feature is sweet!

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Old 09-01-2012, 10:00 PM
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This was added with the 2013 models, as part of the next generation Navigation / iDrive. At the hardware level, KOMBI is still KOMBI, but HU_CIC is now HU_NBT. So, it may be possible that a full dealer programing of the car with 47.x will flash KOMBI and HU_CIC with new firmware, and then these entries will appear, or it may be, particularly in the case of the Head Unit, that HU_CIC can not be flash updated o HU_NBT. It's too soon to say. We need a 2011 / 2012 model with HUD to be fully programmed with 47.x and see what the affect is.
I had my car (528i Feb 2011 build) programmed with the latest software i-step F010-12-07-520. I am not sure the equivalent ISTA/P version is, but I suspect it will be 47.x.

I was able to successfully code the radio menu and telephone options in the HUD, as mentioned in post #1 by coding the KOMBI module Section 3000
- HUD_ENTERTAINMENT_ENABLE to aktiv (enables radio menu)
- HUD_TELEFONANRUF_ENABLE to aktiv (enables recent calls list to be displayed)
Both options exist in the KOMBI Module after the software update (they did not exist in the older version).

However, I was unable to locate HUD_ENTERTAINMENTLIST in the HU_CIC module.
Not a concern, as I still get the functionality in the HUD. I am very happy with this
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:36 PM
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I had my car (528i Feb 2011 build) programmed with the latest software i-step F010-12-07-520. I am not sure the equivalent ISTA/P version is, but I suspect it will be 47.x.

I was able to successfully code the radio menu and telephone options in the HUD, as mentioned in post #1 by coding the KOMBI module Section 3000
- HUD_ENTERTAINMENT_ENABLE to aktiv (enables radio menu)
- HUD_TELEFONANRUF_ENABLE to aktiv (enables recent calls list to be displayed)
Both options exist in the KOMBI Module after the software update (they did not exist in the older version).

However, I was unable to locate HUD_ENTERTAINMENTLIST in the HU_CIC module.
Not a concern, as I still get the functionality in the HUD. I am very happy with this
Thanks for the input. This confirms my suspicion and what I previously wrote. KOMBI with new firmware from 47.x will act the same for pre 2013 models, but HU_CIC will not flash to HU_NBT, so what is unique to HU_NBT will be only for 2103 and forward models.
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Thanks for the input. This confirms my suspicion and what I previously wrote. KOMBI with new firmware from 47.x will act the same for pre 2013 models, but HU_CIC will not flash to HU_NBT, so what is unique to HU_NBT will be only for 2103 and forward models.
Hi Shawn

i thought it is possible to upgrade the fw versions with esys, am I wrong?
Have you played with it?
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:14 PM
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Hi Shawn

i thought it is possible to upgrade the fw versions with esys, am I wrong?
Have you played with it?
You will be able to update the firmware on any ECU so long as BMW releases updated firmware. What I am saying is that Kombi seems to be the same in the 2013 model, so you can update your Kombi firmware, and get the same coding options and features, so long as those features are not dependent on HU_NBT. You will be able to flash HU_CIC to newer firmware, but no firmware update will ever turn HU_CIC into HU_NBT. HU_CIC will always be some version of HU_CIC, and HU_NBT is a whole different animal.
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@falcongeek;

Does your car have option 6VC (Combox)? I am guessing not. And do you have CMB_MEDIA and CMB_ECALL ECU's showing in E-Sys?

Also, what is your Bluetooth option? I am guessing instead of 639 and 6FL you have only 6NL?
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Shawn -

I have a VERY EARLY bulid 2012, are you saying its doable (with a firmware update only), or doable without needing a visit to the dealer, or not doable at this point?

This would be a HUGE usability improvement IMO, i would wrank it up there with the TPMS activation

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Shawn -

I have a VERY EARLY bulid 2012, are you saying its doable (with a firmware update only), or doable without needing a visit to the dealer, or not doable at this point?

This would be a HUGE usability improvement IMO, i would wrank it up there with the TPMS activation

Aceman
These two specific HUD features are doable if your car is programed with 47.x.

marcosg just had his 528i with a Feb 2011 build date programmed and they are working for him.
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After driving around with this new feature activated I can safely say its increased the HUD's usability 10 fold. If you don't have the navigation on the HUD just shows you how fast you are going. While cool its novelty wears off pretty fast. Now with this i actually look at the HUD a lot more.

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OK so the question is how do i convince my local service department to upgrade me to 47.x?? I have heard that dealers do not particularly like to reprogram cars unless there is actually a problem with them.

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OK so the question is how do i convince my local service department to upgrade me to 47.x?? I have heard that dealers do not particularly like to reprogram cars unless there is actually a problem with them.

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Plan A = Grovel to Service Manager
Plan B = Bribe Service Manager with 100 Year Old Bottle of Single Malt Scotch
Plan C = Blackmail Service Manager after taking him out to the nudie bar and photographing him in numerous compromising positions.
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Plan A = Grovel to Service Manager
Plan B = Bribe Service Manager with 100 Year Old Bottle of Single Malt Scotch
Plan C = Blackmail Service Manager after taking him out to the nudie bar and photographing him in numerous compromising positions.
Yikes! I was afraid of that. Though I am not above bribing people to get my way.
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