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Old 12-06-2011, 10:51 AM
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2012 128i 1st SERVICE

I've run several searches, and found nothing. My question is, does anybody know why BMW dropped the 1200 mile service on the 2012 128i, and doesn't show needing a service until 15kmiles?
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:12 PM
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The timing coincides with when BMW starting paying for service work they required. They also changed to synthetic oil about then too, however. Mike Miller discusses this in his old school maintenance guide. I decided it was worthwhile and changed it myself about then.

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Old 12-06-2011, 01:47 PM
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JimD is correct...it is or was all about extending service intervals so that the paid for services were just less. Can the car take that? Probably so, as its warranted for it, and its their selling point re: no maintenance. And the forums are divided on it. Some say no problem, others favor the early changes. I am in the latter camp. I changed mine in 1st 1000 and paid for it myself...and then get the yearly free. Waiting 15K is in my old school mind silly--as some would say the same for paying to to have it done. My retort is: if you can afford the car then you can afford more oil changes. No matter how well its put together, getting break in oil out early is favorable. Maybe its in my mind, but then, even if it is--it works better for me--as I like to the IDEA that ANY swarf that was in their from even the best of builds is basically gone. Good luck on your choice tho; but I like the maintenance and love clean oil.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:01 AM
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Hmmm. My first BMW was a '97 Z3 which had 3 yr/36k miles covered service - and an average oil change interval of 7,500 miles with conventional OEM oil.

When BMW introduced synthetic oil with the 1999 US models, the average OCI increased to 15k miles.

So the assertion that longer recommended maintenance intervals coincided with "free" service is not corrrect. They accompanied the switch to synthetic oil.

And there was never a 1,200 mile break-in service on non M models.

Tom
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Old 12-08-2011, 10:15 AM
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Here's my theory, FWIW. No question synthetics have lengthened the time required between servicing, but 15k is absurdly long, especially for hot, high performance turbo motors. But it really does not matter - with exponentially more complicated systems and components surrounding the motor, as well as the cheapening of same components to shave costs, weight, etc. (think crappy cooling systems) in a global marketplace, a modern BMW reaches the point of economical obsolescence well before motor itself is worn out. Even with infrequent oil changes, the motor may last for 150k/7 years or so, but by that time everything else on the car has either failed or is in imminent danger of failure, and the costs to maintain have become far higher than the value of the car itself. BMWs are no longer designed to last for 2-300k miles if well maintained. They are designed to get past the warranty period at minimal cost to BMW, and when the warranty is over there is a newfangled, latest & greatest new model ready for sale to replace it.

The only benefit to an "old school" maintenace approach for a modern BMW is that it will greatly help an owner trying to sell a low mileage used car to a private party who is an enthusiast that understands and values this approach. Then you stand a better chance of getting a good price premium vs. trading it in at the dealer.

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Old 12-12-2011, 03:27 AM
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Early Oil Change

What, please, might an oil change cost me ?
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:23 PM
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What, please, might an oil change cost me ?
My dealer usually charges around $110, although I can often get a promotional coupon for $80.

Tom

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Old 12-13-2011, 03:02 AM
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Oil Change

Within the zone of reasonableness. Thank you.
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:34 AM
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Here's my theory, FWIW. No question synthetics have lengthened the time required between servicing, but 15k is absurdly long, especially for hot, high performance turbo motors. But it really does not matter - with exponentially more complicated systems and components surrounding the motor, as well as the cheapening of same components to shave costs, weight, etc. (think crappy cooling systems) in a global marketplace, a modern BMW reaches the point of economical obsolescence well before motor itself is worn out. Even with infrequent oil changes, the motor may last for 150k/7 years or so, but by that time everything else on the car has either failed or is in imminent danger of failure, and the costs to maintain have become far higher than the value of the car itself. BMWs are no longer designed to last for 2-300k miles if well maintained. They are designed to get past the warranty period at minimal cost to BMW, and when the warranty is over there is a newfangled, latest & greatest new model ready for sale to replace it.

The only benefit to an "old school" maintenace approach for a modern BMW is that it will greatly help an owner trying to sell a low mileage used car to a private party who is an enthusiast that understands and values this approach. Then you stand a better chance of getting a good price premium vs. trading it in at the dealer.
Since I totally agree with you you must be right!!!
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Old 09-02-2012, 06:40 PM
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another great thread here
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:03 PM
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Here's my theory, FWIW. No question synthetics have lengthened the time required between servicing, but 15k is absurdly long, especially for hot, high performance turbo motors. But it really does not matter - with exponentially more complicated systems and components surrounding the motor, as well as the cheapening of same components to shave costs, weight, etc. (think crappy cooling systems) in a global marketplace, a modern BMW reaches the point of economical obsolescence well before motor itself is worn out. Even with infrequent oil changes, the motor may last for 150k/7 years or so, but by that time everything else on the car has either failed or is in imminent danger of failure, and the costs to maintain have become far higher than the value of the car itself. BMWs are no longer designed to last for 2-300k miles if well maintained. They are designed to get past the warranty period at minimal cost to BMW, and when the warranty is over there is a newfangled, latest & greatest new model ready for sale to replace it.

The only benefit to an "old school" maintenace approach for a modern BMW is that it will greatly help an owner trying to sell a low mileage used car to a private party who is an enthusiast that understands and values this approach. Then you stand a better chance of getting a good price premium vs. trading it in at the dealer.

hmmm good post here.will have to write this down
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