F10 Coding Internet over Bluetooth and not over BMW

Damn! It is really working - great!!!!!
Thank you so much shawn! This is awesome!!

The next step is to go back step by step to find out, how to get VI+ / RTTI working with customer sim

shawn, you seem to be very good with this stuff... do you have any idea how to update the "kombi" module to get the ability to set "hud_entertainment" for radio stations and callers name in head-up display?

Originally Posted by sibob

Damn! It is really working - great!!!!!
Thank you so much shawn! This is awesome!!

The next step is to go back step by step to find out, how to get VI+ / RTTI working with customer sim

shawn, you seem to be very good with this stuff... do you have any idea how to update the "kombi" module to get the ability to set "hud_entertainment" for radio stations and callers name in head-up display?

You were VO Coding CMB_MEDIA with new VIN instead of FDL Coding it weren't you?

Glad it is working now though.

It's your turn now. Find the code to enable Internet in Motion as VIM doesn't work.

Oh, and the code so it defaults to the Large text.

Short of taking the car into the dealer, you have to flash your Kombi Firmware with 47.x. It can be done in E-Sys, but it is not well understood nor documented. The only one I know that has successfully done it is mjgood. He flashed his CIC and CMB_MEDIA in order to get 6NR Apps. I would contact him. If you do attempt the E-Sys flash, please document it precisely, with detailed steps so we can get a DIY up for everyone.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

You were VO Coding CMB_MEDIA with new VIN instead of FDL Coding it weren't you?

Yes, i was I am glad it works...

Flashing via e-sys would be interesting... but it is said we need pdx files. in 47.x files pszdata only odx are integrated :-(

Originally Posted by sibob

Yes, i was I am glad it works...

Flashing via e-sys would be interesting... but it is said we need pdx files. in 47.x files pszdata only odx are integrated :-(

Not true. 16Gb of the 20 Gb of PSdZData are the ECU firmwares (.swfl), and E-Sys can Flash using just the PSdZData package.

E-Sys only needs to utilize the single ODX format (as opposed to PDX, aka. packed PDX). Within E-Sys, the ODX-Charger performs the task of integrating the particular layers into one useable ODX-Container (Diag-Layer-Container, Comparam-Spec, Vehicle-Info-Spec and Multiple-Ecu-Job-Spec). A flash layer is assembled by the ODX-Charger, from selected SWE's. The SWE's are incorporated into the ODX-Container as MSR and BSW files. A BSW is a .ZIP archive that contains binary flash data and an XML file containing header information.

I don't want to hijack this thread. PM me if you want to attempt a firmware flash.

Originally Posted by sibob

Damn! It is really working - great!!!!!
Thank you so much shawn! This is awesome!!

The next step is to go back step by step to find out, how to get VI+ / RTTI working with customer sim

shawn, you seem to be very good with this stuff... do you have any idea how to update the "kombi" module to get the ability to set "hud_entertainment" for radio stations and callers name in head-up display?

I thought maybe this would be the key for Internet-In-Motion, but it is already set as Inactive:

SL12_BMW_INTERNET = nicht_aktiv / Werte=00

Maybe it needs Werte=FF?

These may be the culprits though:

SL06_IBA_1 = aktiv
SL07_IBA_2 = aktiv
SL21_IBA_3 = aktiv

If you have time, maybe you can play with them and see if you can disable the Internet Speedlock.

i will check tomorrow if i can find the right values to disable the speed lock, weekdays is difficult to reserve time to play around

Sorry, where is:
CMB_MEDIA / TELEMATIK_VIN = Coding VIN ?
I can't find it...

Originally Posted by tissot

Sorry, where is:
CMB_MEDIA / TELEMATIK_VIN = Coding VIN ?
I can't find it...

Do you have Option 6VC Combox? If you do, TELEMATIK_VIN will be in the CMB_MEDIA ECU.

Hmm, no, I think I haven't.
I have:
S612A BMW ASSIST BMW Assist
S614A INTERNET
S615A ERWEITERTE BMW ONLINE INFORMATION
S616A BMW ONLINE
S620A VOICE INPUT SYSTEM
S633A PREP.MOB. PH. BUSINESS BLUET.INTERF
S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES BMW
S6ABA CONTROL TELESERVICES
...and "Internet not available in your country"

Originally Posted by tissot

Hmm, no, I think I haven't.
I have:
S612A BMW ASSIST BMW Assist
S614A INTERNET
S615A ERWEITERTE BMW ONLINE INFORMATION
S616A BMW ONLINE
S620A VOICE INPUT SYSTEM
S633A PREP.MOB. PH. BUSINESS BLUET.INTERF
S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES BMW
S6ABA CONTROL TELESERVICES
...and "Internet not available in your country"

What country are you in?

What is the build date of your 528i?

I don't understand. You have factory 614 or you added that to your VO? Becasue if that is factory, you should not be getting "Internet not available in your country".

Also, if you want Internet, 612 BMW Assist needs to be removed and replaced with 644. I'm not sure about 616 though. I don't have 616 in my VO, just 614 and 615. You may also want to add 6AL for BMW Live.

I'm in Poland, car is from Germany, build in 03/10. I have factory 614, but it works only in Germany.
Ok, I will be trying...

I'm in Poland, car is from Germany, build in 03/10. I have factory 614, but it works only in Germany.
Ok, I will be trying...

Originally Posted by tissot

I'm in Poland, car is from Germany, build in 03/10. I have factory 614, but it works only in Germany.
Ok, I will be trying...

Ok. I see. Factory 614 is actually Internet via BMW Assist using the car's GSM Module and SIM Card. It is also used though for coding Internet over Bluetooth using the Cell Phone SIM Card and Data Connection. Have you tried asking BMW Assist to activate Internet on your car, which is how your 614 is supposed to work?

I think Combox, at least in the U.S. did not appear until 09/10 builds, so your 03/10 build is probably missing it. Do you instead of Combox show TCU and or MULF modules in E-Sys?

Can you post a picture of all the ECU's showing in your SVT in E-Sys?

Just so I'm clear, Shawn were you able to get internet working over Bluetooth in your F10?

Originally Posted by rutok

Just so I'm clear, Shawn were you able to get internet working over Bluetooth in your F10?

Yes, I have BMW Live & Internet working over Bluetooth in my U.S. F10. But it is hardly worth the effort I put into it if you ask me.

Can someone make a tutorial, how to enable internet over bluetooth to work in bmw f10 ?
I have Bmw f10 2012 with:
S612A BMW ASSIST
S614A Internet preparation
S616A BMW ONLINE
S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES
S6VCA COMBOX


Thanks.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

Yes, I have BMW Live & Internet working over Bluetooth in my U.S. F10. But it is hardly worth the effort I put into it if you ask me.

Is this due to not being able to use while in motion? Or the actual functionality? i.e. connection speed, display limitations, etc

Originally Posted by rutok

Is this due to not being able to use while in motion? Or the actual functionality? i.e. connection speed, display limitations, etc

It's quite a few things actually that collectively make it not worth using.

• No Internet-In-Motion
• Speed - One, I am on a Verizon 3G Corporate Blackberry as they do not offer a 4G Blackberry. Two, the CPU in the CIC is just plain slow. Maybe with a 4G phone and the new upgraded HU_NBT Head Unit, the speed will be better.
• Browser - The CIC uses some flavor of Firefox 3.5, and there is no support for Flash, Java, or Silverlight, etc. (e.g. No NFL.com football game animation )
• Input - iDrive Controller scrolling through the alphabet one character at a time to enter URL's or fill in User Name or Password fields is painful.
• Loosing Google - Send-To functionality, which is part of BMW Assist.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

It's quite a few things actually that collectively make it not worth using.

• No Internet-In-Motion
• Speed - One, I am on a Verizon 3G Corporate Blackberry as they do not offer a 4G Blackberry. Two, the CPU in the CIC is just plain slow. Maybe with a 4G phone and the new upgraded HU_NBT Head Unit, the speed will be better.
• Browser - The CIC uses some flavor of Firefox 3.5, and there is no support for Flash, Java, or Silverlight, etc. (e.g. No NFL.com football game animation)
• Input - iDrive Controller scrolling through the alphabet one character at a time to enter URL's or fill in User Name or Password fields is painful.
• Loosing Google - Send-To functionality, which is part of BMW Assist.

Thanks Shawn, Thats all I need to hear.. Not worth the trouble is right! No flash is a huge bummer

Originally Posted by vzinic

Can someone make a tutorial, how to enable internet over bluetooth to work in bmw f10 ?
I have Bmw f10 2012 with:
S612A BMW ASSIST
S614A Internet preparation
S616A BMW ONLINE
S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES
S6VCA COMBOX


Thanks.

Change your VO as follows:

- 612 (or 633 or 639 if present)
+ 644
+ 614 (Required but already present)
+ 615
+ 6AL
+ 6AB

VO CODE HU_CIC
VO CODE CMB_MEDIA

FDL CODE CMB_MEDIA:
- TELEMATIK_VIN = Coding_VIN

FDL CODE CMB_MEDIA:
Use modified VO with VIN that has factory options 614 and 615 as explained in my earlier Post # 45:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=45

*** Use only to FDL Code CMB_MEDIA; DO NOT write this FA to the Car

1) Enable Data Transfer Option Under Phone
2) Enable Bluetooth Data Tethering on Phone
3) Under Connected drive; Update services (should show BMW Live and Internet services)
4) Go to BMW Live and Internet and make sure it it working

After it is working:
Use original VO with car VIN:
FDL CODE CMB_MEDIA:
- TELEMATIK_VIN = MOST_VIN

Read CMB_MEDIA and verify Short VIN in brackets [xxxxxxx] is car VIN.

DO NOT update services again or you will loose BMW Live and Internet.

*** If you do not return the Combox VIN to car VIN, you will encounter problems with future dealer programming, as the Combox will not be recognized, and programming will hault.

Hello Shawn i have same problem, i´m from spain.

Originally Posted by vzinic

Can someone make a tutorial, how to enable internet over bluetooth to work in bmw f10 ?
I have Bmw f10 2012 with:
S612A BMW ASSIST
S614A Internet preparation
S616A BMW ONLINE
S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES
S6VCA COMBOX


Thanks.

This is my car:

S609A NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL Sistema de navegación Professional
S610A HEAD-UP DISPLAY Head-up display
S612A BMW ASSIST BMW Assist
S614A INTERNET VORBEREITUNG Preinstalación de Internet
S615A ERWEITERTE BMW ONLINE INFORMATION Información BMW Online ampliada
S616A BMW ONLINE BMW Online
S620A SPRACHEINGABESYSTEM Control por voz
S633A HANDY VORB. BUSINESS/BLUETOOTH-SCH. Preparación teléfono móvil Business
S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM Sistemas de altavoz HiFi
S698A AREA-CODE 2 Código de área 2 para DVD
S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES BMW TeleServices
S6ABA STEUERUNG TELESERVICES Control servicios telemáticos
S6FLA USB-AUDIO-SCHNITTSTELLE Interfaz USB/audio
S6VCA STEUERUNG COMBOX Control Combox

I have the same issue, internet is not availble in your country.

Could you make me a tutorial please.

I think i don´t need a fake vin, is correct? But my car doesn´t has 644 Live option.

Could i return to the previous status before this codification?

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by mateforrest

Hello Shawn i have same problem, i´m from spain.



This is my car:

S609A NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL Sistema de navegación Professional
S610A HEAD-UP DISPLAY Head-up display
S612A BMW ASSIST BMW Assist
S614A INTERNET VORBEREITUNG Preinstalación de Internet
S615A ERWEITERTE BMW ONLINE INFORMATION Información BMW Online ampliada
S616A BMW ONLINE BMW Online
S620A SPRACHEINGABESYSTEM Control por voz
S633A HANDY VORB. BUSINESS/BLUETOOTH-SCH. Preparación teléfono móvil Business
S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM Sistemas de altavoz HiFi
S698A AREA-CODE 2 Código de área 2 para DVD
S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES BMW TeleServices
S6ABA STEUERUNG TELESERVICES Control servicios telemáticos
S6FLA USB-AUDIO-SCHNITTSTELLE Interfaz USB/audio
S6VCA STEUERUNG COMBOX Control Combox

I have the same issue, internet is not availble in your country.

Could you make me a tutorial please.

I think i don´t need a fake vin, is correct? But my car doesn´t has 644 Live option.

Could i return to the previous status before this codification?

Thanks in advance.

My tutorial is Post #70.

It assumes you know how to FDL Code, Modify your VO and VO Code. The only other part is Writing a VIN to the Combox, which in the post refers you back to my detailed instructions for that in Post # 45.

I will help you if I can, but I don't think I can detail it any more or better than I have already.

If you are not clear on something(s), tell me what that is, and I'll elaborate.

1) Since you have factory 614 and 615, you should not need a fake VIN. However, since you also have 612 BMW Assist, the 614 you have, as configured, is Internet via the car SIM, not Internet via Mobile Phone Bluetooth.

2) You need to replace 612 with 644

3) You need to add 6AL for BMW Live.

Yes, this is 100% reversible by using your original VO, and VO Coding CMB_MEDIA and HU_CIC.

Thank you very much Shawn.

i´m a beginner with my F10.

Please read my red answers.

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

My tutorial is Post #70.

It assumes you know how to FDL Code, Modify your VO and VO Code. The only other part is Writing a VIN to the Combox, which in the post refers you back to my detailed instructions for that in Post # 45. i think i don´t need to change the VIN, is correct?

I will help you if I can, but I don't think I can detail it any more or better than I have already.

If you are not clear on something(s), tell me what that is, and I'll elaborate.

1) Since you have factory 614 and 615, you should not need a fake VIN. However, since you also have 612 BMW Assist, the 614 you have, as configured, is Internet via the car SIM, not Internet via Mobile Phone Bluetooth. Ok, i continue using my vin, Can i skip this step from the post 70 tutorial?

2) You need to replace 612 with 644
I removed 612 from VO and them add 644, is correct?

3) You need to add 6AL for BMW Live.
I only add to the VO this option, Correct?, Also can i retrofit the BMW APPS adding 6NR
Yes, this is 100% reversible by using your original VO, and VO Coding CMB_MEDIA and HU_CIC.
I want to know this because actually this feature only works on Germany an UK, But BMW plans to enable this feature in Spain at the end of the year and i prefer to use the internal sim because is faster than the bluetooth conection

Regards

Originally Posted by mateforrest

Thank you very much Shawn.

i´m a beginner with my F10.

Please read my red answers.

Regards

1) Yes, I think you will NOT need a fake VIN, so skip these steps:

FDL CODE CMB_MEDIA:
- TELEMATIK_VIN = Coding_VIN

FDL CODE CMB_MEDIA:
Use modified VO with VIN that has factory options 614 and 615 as explained in my earlier Post # 45:

2) Yes, remove 612 from VO, and then add both 644 and 6AL to VO, then:

VO CODE HU_CIC
VO CODE CMB_MEDIA

3) Do NOT add 6NR for BMW Apps, unless you have already first obtained a 9C FSC Code and had it imported into your CIC and activated. This can be done for $250 USD. PM me for details if you are interested in this. You will have BMW Apps (e.g. Web Radio, Pandora, Facebook, etc.), but no Video and iPod out (PlugIn) functionality though. For those you would also need 6NF hardware and coding, or you would need to replace your 6FL USB Aux-In port with the Mini Cooper USB AV-In port.

Thanks,

I just sent you an email for the FSC code.

Regards