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Old 04-28-2011, 12:56 PM
ufemizm ufemizm is offline
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Exclamation A/C retrofit for 1970 2002 - Ideas anyone?

I've owned this car for 38 of it's 40 years. Suspension Techniques springs, Bilsteins, anti-sway bars, 5 speed conversion, aluminum radiator. You get the picture. Interior is new too. But I really need A/C! Damned global warming scorching my butt. Anyone know of a good, not horrifyingly expensive A/C retrofit kit for this car?
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Old 04-30-2011, 05:05 AM
m4dzl m4dzl is offline
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I don't have an answer for you, but was hoping you would know how common factory or dealer installed A/C was in the 2002 or 2002tii models from 70-74? How effective was it in keeping the cars 'comfortable'? In today's resale market what is the likelihood of finding one with factory A/C?
In the early 70's our family owned a 6 cylinder Bavaria and the factory A/C could barely keep the 'green house' sedan cool in the summer months.
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Old 05-01-2011, 11:21 AM
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A/C retrofit

Not common at all. Very few 69-73 2002s had AC. 74, 75 and 76 were more likely to have it, but I think probably mostly West Coast cars. And the old AC wasn't terribly effective as you noticed.
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Old 05-08-2011, 10:43 AM
St.Louis M3 St.Louis M3 is offline
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Vintage Air makes some very discreet and effective A/C units. They are more famous for installs in hot rods but they work well. http://www.vintageair.com/

Trouble is, A/C is a real drag (literally) to the performance of a 2002. I've known more people who have removed them.
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:28 PM
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2002 ac

Yeah, no question about the "drag" of AC on a 2002 engine. But I would think some of the newer Japanese compressors are way more efficient than what was original equipment (yuk).
Thanks for the tip, m4dzl.
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:12 PM
zooz3 zooz3 is offline
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ac choice

Try www.iceac.com
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Old 08-16-2011, 04:18 PM
Harry2002z3m Harry2002z3m is offline
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2002 air conditioning

I am doing a complete restoration on a 75 02 that had the dealer installed air on it, after doing some research I am not going to put it back in the car. The old York compressors vibrate a lot, I found worn bolts, stripped threads and cracked mounts, using the old R12 freon with R134a, the only thing you can use now, the head pressures are higher = MORE VIBRATION . So you would need to use a modern rotary compressor and make a mount for it , then the next problem R134a is not as efferent as R12 was so you need a bigger evaporator and condenser, there is no room in front on the 2002's radiator to install a larger condenser than the one it had ,which is about 1/3 the size of a new car using R134a. So after you would spend all the cash to try and change things around and with all the glass the 2002 has I don't think it would be worth the results which would not be as good as when the air was installed in 1975 and not even close to a late model cars air. What do you think?


Harry
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:49 AM
fahrhaus fahrhaus is offline
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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but has anyone tried one of these units? Any thoughts on difficulty retrofitting to a 1972 tii?

http://www.oldairproducts.com/catalo..._37000000.html
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:17 PM
96_Impreza 96_Impreza is offline
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23 ideas:
http://www.chicagonow.com/chicagonow...oners/#image/1

And the winner:

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Old 09-10-2012, 06:52 AM
fahrhaus fahrhaus is offline
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LOL love the ideas but think they might ruin those gorgeous lines!
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