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Old 09-07-2012, 08:08 AM
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If you guys did research into gas you would see any brand is fine
There is no difference from one brand to the next.
The poster who posted the top tier gas producers are manufacturers who have introduced a detergent into their blend of gasoline. These top tier gas producers were asked by GM, BMW, Toyota, Audi, and VW to formulate a detergent as the current EPA minimum detergent requirements do not go far enough to ensure optimal engine performance.

Since minimum additive performance standards were first established by EPA in 1995, most gasoline marketers have actually reduced the concentration level of detergent additive in their gasoline by up to 50%. So gas used to better 15-20 years back when

Even if you used Walmart gasoline, which is not a top tier product, you could still use the blue bottle of techron like every 10,000 miles or so to get the same results.

There is no difference between the major brands of gas. Truth is you don't know where the gas you buy is coming from Chevron, Texaco, Shell, or BP. It all comes from the same well in a ground or in a pipeline, on a ship that comes into port, get distributed by wholesalers, and then retailed to where you pump your gas. Your shell station could be selling you a chevron blend. You dont know.
Gas Stations are sold whatever the wholesalers get at the port terminal. it could their blend or someone elses.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:22 PM
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That's your opinion. Everyone's entitled to theirs. In my experience with Top Tier gas, I have yet to experience fuel system related failures after having used Shell gas in all my cars. Just step over to other Luxury car forums and read what the majority of people say about quality gas VS. Wal-Mart, etc.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:01 PM
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:56 PM
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' ELIMINATES NEED FOR HIGH OCTANE FUEL '
how's this possible , this is jus a system cleaner NOT a octane booster ??
that a great point. Manual says 91 octane recommended. Does this additive mean I could use mid grade gas of 89 octane for the next 10k miles after using it? Normal premium is 93 octane at pump.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:04 PM
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If you guys did research into gas you would see any brand is fine
There is no difference from one brand to the next.
The poster who posted the top tier gas producers are manufacturers who have introduced a detergent into their blend of gasoline. These top tier gas producers were asked by GM, BMW, Toyota, Audi, and VW to formulate a detergent as the current EPA minimum detergent requirements do not go far enough to ensure optimal engine performance.

Since minimum additive performance standards were first established by EPA in 1995, most gasoline marketers have actually reduced the concentration level of detergent additive in their gasoline by up to 50%. So gas used to better 15-20 years back when

Even if you used Walmart gasoline, which is not a top tier product, you could still use the blue bottle of techron like every 10,000 miles or so to get the same results.

There is no difference between the major brands of gas. Truth is you don't know where the gas you buy is coming from Chevron, Texaco, Shell, or BP. It all comes from the same well in a ground or in a pipeline, on a ship that comes into port, get distributed by wholesalers, and then retailed to where you pump your gas. Your shell station could be selling you a chevron blend. You dont know.
Gas Stations are sold whatever the wholesalers get at the port terminal. it could their blend or someone elses.
Id agree. I have used Texaco, Mobile, Racetrack, Costco, Wallyworld whoever is convenient. I have felt no perceptible change in performance or measured any less mpg. with this performance vehicle. I did use some additive injector cleaner 1500 miles ago. WIth on performance cars Ive owned I never even cared what fuel....just cheapest and never had one iota of problem.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:12 PM
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that a great point. Manual says 91 octane recommended. Does this additive mean I could use mid grade gas of 89 octane for the next 10k miles after using it? Normal premium is 93 octane at pump.
No it does not mean that. Stick with 93.
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:22 PM
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That's your opinion. Everyone's entitled to theirs. In my experience with Top Tier gas, I have yet to experience fuel system related failures after having used Shell gas in all my cars. Just step over to other Luxury car forums and read what the majority of people say about quality gas VS. Wal-Mart, etc.
Im all over the luxury car forums.........What i offer is not an opinion, its fact.
Whatever you are using has nothing to do with the fact thats it shell.
The only difference is the detergents (additives) used at the refinery. Walmart (aka Murphy Oil USA) I dont know what Murphy Oil treats their fuel with what detergents. Its pure coincidence that people have had bad experiences with a certain brand.
You can get bad gas anywhere, anytime, anyplace. And it all depends on where that gas station buys their fuel from. That fuel could be sold to anyplace.

Im not saying go buy Walmart gas, im trying to put a end to the myth that a certain brand is better than the other.
I fill up my AMG at Racetrac and I assure I have a healthy car. I dyno it at least twice a year and my numbers are always at +500rwhp and +580RWTQ. Just to be safe i either fill up at Chevron or use the blue bottle of techron once every three months.

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http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/gas/
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:24 PM
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Just to be safe i either fill up at Chevron or use the blue bottle of techron once every three months.
Thanks, my Point exactly! You still have to use a Top Tier gas to "be safe".
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:07 PM
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Thanks, my Point exactly! You still have to use a Top Tier gas to "be safe".
i sure that was not your point. You just quoted out of context to make it look that way
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i sure that was not your point. You just quoted out of context to make it look that way
You don't really know how to make friends, do you?
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be careful with that lucas stuff! It has a large amount of detergents that can damage sensors and seals over time! Redline si-1 fuel cleaner doesn't have that level of detergents but instead uses another compound that cleans without damaging other components! Source: Bobistheoilguy forums
Yes I do agree on this I use to use it myself aswell once a month then started to have problems so I had to give it a fuel system cleaning then replace fuel filter just incase. That help smoother reaction
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You don't really know how to make friends, do you?
its the forum bullies again!
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Haha I'm happy to hear that man
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its the forum bullies again!
You know what, I'm happy you didn't get banned. Because every time I get on here, I'm able to get a good laugh at all of your beautiful posts.
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You know what, I'm happy you didn't get banned. Because every time I get on here, I'm able to get a good laugh at all of your beautiful posts.
borderline offensive......certainly sarcastic as an attempt to bully into your values of forum conformance. Ill consider reporting as a violation of the terms of service
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:03 PM
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You know what, I'm happy you didn't get banned. Because every time I get on here, I'm able to get a good laugh at all of your beautiful posts.
Thanks Suri!
Couldn't have said it better myself! If what you say is bullying, count me in.
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Thanks Suri!
Couldn't have said it better myself! If what you say is bullying, count me in.
yes. Its a gang here of forum bullys, the bimmerfest crips, who pile up on anyone that does not bend to their distorted values.
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