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7 Series - E65 / E66 (2002 - 2008)
Discussion of BMW's 4th generation E65/E66 7 Series flagship. The E65 generated much controversy, due to its radical styling and iDrive user difficulties. Nonetheless, the E65 broke records to become the best-selling 7-series iteration ever, especially after its 2005 facelift.

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Old 08-13-2012, 12:52 AM
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Jeff,

That's it, it's under the electromechanical parking brake module, and the comfort setting! When you open the comfort option it will show a 0 just type a 1 and hit ok then leave it. This should enable the auto p again. Mine showed a 0 if I opened it again, theoretically if you have done that your auto p should work now.

I also have that can rx error message. I don't recall having it before the retrofit of the MMI. I think it means it's lost comms or dosent understand a message it's been sent.

Sorry cant help on the SVS, I have had mine working using the socket in the dash but it's a retrofit, so I don't have the correct fibre cables to fit it properly in the boot.

One thing I will say, when I first got it i plugged it in the loop in place of the TV module. It didn't work, I think that was because a module was missing (the TV) in the loop and it was supposed to be there. This could be the same issue, while coding you have added a module to the module index in the most loop and it's not actually there causing the SVS not to work. I don't know where this list is generated it may be from the VO and it's stored in the ASK.

Research into that, I may be on the right track....

Try the EMF again, mines working perfectly now.

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Old 08-13-2012, 02:22 AM
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Jeff,

That's it, it's under the electromechanical parking brake module, and the comfort setting! When you open the comfort option it will show a 0 just type a 1 and hit ok then leave it. This should enable the auto p again. Mine showed a 0 if I opened it again, theoretically if you have done that your auto p should work now.

I also have that can rx error message. I don't recall having it before the retrofit of the MMI. I think it means it's lost comms or dosent understand a message it's been sent.

Sorry cant help on the SVS, I have had mine working using the socket in the dash but it's a retrofit, so I don't have the correct fibre cables to fit it properly in the boot.

One thing I will say, when I first got it i plugged it in the loop in place of the TV module. It didn't work, I think that was because a module was missing (the TV) in the loop and it was supposed to be there. This could be the same issue, while coding you have added a module to the module index in the most loop and it's not actually there causing the SVS not to work. I don't know where this list is generated it may be from the VO and it's stored in the ASK.

Research into that, I may be on the right track....

Try the EMF again, mines working perfectly now.

Stuart
Stuart, When you enter the 1 and then hit ok, did you then quit INPA and disconnect your laptop and then turn off the ignition and then restart the car and Auto P was available again?

Thanks,

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Old 08-13-2012, 02:50 AM
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Yes that's right, I was fixing my airbag error at the time and was removing the key and inserting again.

After I removed the laptop and locked the car, I returned started the engine tried the auto p an it worked.

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Old 08-14-2012, 01:05 AM
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Jeff,

Have you had any luck? Hope this works for you.

How did you get the iPod interface to work correctly? There were two coding parameters in the MMI if I remember correctly iPod active and listh or something? Did you only get this option once coding +IPOD in the VO? Thanks

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Old 08-14-2012, 05:11 AM
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Hey guys, just got a 2002 745Li and I was convinced there was a way to do exactly what this post has been discussing soon after I realized what my idrive could and couldn't do. Did a google and here I am. iv made it to page 12 thus far trying to soak it all in, so if there's a walk through or guide pages ahead id appreciate the heads up. Gettin antzy and excited to start my retro fit.
So far Iv gathered ill need a TCU,(84109149615) thanks ACE and Stuartjohn. Ill need a later model MMI aka facelift. plugs for the fiber as well as the 54 dongle. And a decent batt charger for the flashing end. Now whats gotten me scrathing my scalp is the flashing and software end as to which program is easiest or best. NCS, tool32 and ACE's Dashsoft. Well still reading, like I said got excitted and wanted to join up and speak up. Great works guys, signed green with envy
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:42 PM
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I also had the CAN RX error in my EMF module. Deleted the error code, then tried a bunch of different combinations of the "activate comfort in INPA" with no luck. Restarted the car a bunch of times too. I guess Stuart got lucky!
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:48 AM
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Strange, I will have a look and connect INPA upto my car later this afternoon.

The only thing I can think of is try clearing all errors on the car and erase IM memory on the emf.

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Old 08-15-2012, 11:01 PM
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Jeff,

Have you had any luck? Hope this works for you.

How did you get the iPod interface to work correctly? There were two coding parameters in the MMI if I remember correctly iPod active and listh or something? Did you only get this option once coding +IPOD in the VO? Thanks

Stuart
I did code +IPOD in the VO, and set IPOD_ADD and LISTH_0306 to aktiv in the MMI. If you find that your iPod loads slowly each time you start your car or if your MMI reboots itself while trying to load your songs/playlists, then reset your MMI using ExpertMode and then retry writing your backed up MMI trace file like you would normally do. The first time you connect your iPod it will take some time to read all your songs, but then it should load quickly when you start your car each time.

I installed WinKFP yesterday. Do you think any of the issues I'm still having with Auto P and my Voice Command can be resolved by flashing the EMF and SVS modules? Is there anything else that WinKFP could be used for that you think would help?

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Old 08-15-2012, 11:07 PM
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Strange, I will have a look and connect INPA upto my car later this afternoon.

The only thing I can think of is try clearing all errors on the car and erase IM memory on the emf.

Stuart
I cleared both the EM and IM in the EMF module. Can't get it to accept the 1 value. When I hit OK it still shows 0 as its value, and the error code is back soon after I clear it. Could you post your EMF trace file? Maybe you have something set to aktiv that I don't. Just reaching at this point. At this point I'd just be happy getting my Voice Command back.

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Old 09-08-2012, 07:51 PM
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Okay, I have flashed the MMI using WinKFP and it worked great with the ham radio supply I bought for 118 euros from Germany:

The power draw held steady at just under 16A during the entire process and the little PSU was rock solid at 13.8V for the 40 minutes it took (I had a multimeter checking the voltage at the underhood connection point).

The flash brought the proper phone settings menu to life in the MMI. BUT after the phone is connected, the Comms display is stuck saying "Transferring data..." and the phonebook sync never completes. I can make and receive calls, the hands free and keypad work.
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politby,

When you updated the software in your MMI, did the coding index increase from C03 to C04? If this is the case, anyone one with a model year 2006 MMI (C03) should be able to upgrade to the 2007-2008 year MMI (C04).

I ask because I updated the software in my original (non-bluetooth) TELE60_2 TCU from 6946428 to 9133842 and the coding index increased from C04 to C06. New parameters were in the trace file as a result.
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:13 AM
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politby,

When you updated the software in your MMI, did the coding index increase from C03 to C04? If this is the case, anyone one with a model year 2006 MMI (C03) should be able to upgrade to the 2007-2008 year MMI (C04).

I ask because I updated the software in my original (non-bluetooth) TELE60_2 TCU from 6946428 to 9133842 and the coding index increased from C04 to C06. New parameters were in the trace file as a result.
Yes, it did.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:01 AM
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HI Guys

I have a problem after update software in TCUM
Programming went success new software version 9231089 old 6946428
BUT
for some reason drawer keypad won`t work (tried recode TCUM) but
Coding Index increased to C22 ?????
The highest Index for E65 is C13 I thinking



and my question is
How to connect NSC to work with the unit?
politby had the same problem in post #341
tried already change Coding index and other three options loading FAL profile but no change
Interesting is that INPA and Tool 32 showing Index 22 but NCS want C16 ????
Also for some reason ISTA/P not see my unit but ISTA/D recognizes the unit ok

thanks for any suggestions
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:28 AM
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Hi,

Strange that the keypad has stopped working.

My TCU is on coding index C13 I believe, I found that deleting $630 from my VO and adding $633 for euro Bluetooth option has now allowed me to read and code the TCU without messing around with dummy VO changes in NCS!

What VO changes have you made so far?

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Old 09-15-2012, 03:25 AM
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HI
unit works fine before update so I think VO is set fine
Tried changed production date but no change at all
I have $633 in my VO
Stuart do You know where are hidden settings for keypad?
Keypad lost backlight as well
How to put back old software??? anybody know?

tool 32 before update

and after update

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Old 09-18-2012, 02:59 AM
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Hey guys, just got a 2002 745Li and I was convinced there was a way to do exactly what this post has been discussing soon after I realized what my idrive could and couldn't do. Did a google and here I am. iv made it to page 12 thus far trying to soak it all in, so if there's a walk through or guide pages ahead id appreciate the heads up. Gettin antzy and excited to start my retro fit.
So far Iv gathered ill need a TCU,(84109149615) thanks ACE and Stuartjohn. Ill need a later model MMI aka facelift. plugs for the fiber as well as the 54 dongle. And a decent batt charger for the flashing end. Now whats gotten me scrathing my scalp is the flashing and software end as to which program is easiest or best. NCS, tool32 and ACE's Dashsoft. Well still reading, like I said got excitted and wanted to join up and speak up. Great works guys, signed green with envy
Welcome to the world of BMW coding.

As my car is a face lift I had it a little easier since I only needed to replace the TCU and flash the MMI, but I'll comment on the software.

I don't believe there is anything Dashsoft can do that you can't do using a cheap OBD cable and the "free" (*) software available on the net. I have been using NCSexpert, NCS Dummy, Tool32 and WinKFP with great results.

As for power supplies, I am convinced BMW's 70A requirement is wildly exaggerated; I use a 50A ham radio power supply (see my earlier post in this thread) that cost me 118 euros and it works great.

(*) I am actually a little bit concerned about this; I work in the software industry and I have lots of friends in the music industry so I am always careful to respect copy- and intellectual property rights. I doubt BMW intended for their software to be distributed and used the way we do now. Not that it keeps me awake at night but I think it deserves consideration. And even though I use the software on occasion, I will not re distribute it.
I've been meaning to find out exactly if my use of the software actually is in breach of IP rights but have not gotten around to it yet.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:07 AM
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Hello guys.

I want to upgrade to Bluetooth ( I currently have the cordless handset in the front drawer). I know I will need some coding but do I just replace my Siemens AT with a Bluetooth TCU from any E65 as long as it has Bluetooth ( I have facelift mmi and ask)

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Old 05-06-2013, 10:30 AM
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Hello guys.

I want to upgrade to Bluetooth ( I currently have the cordless handset in the front drawer). I know I will need some coding but do I just replace my Siemens AT with a Bluetooth TCU from any E65 as long as it has Bluetooth ( I have facelift mmi and ask)

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Pretty much, yes. As long as you make sure the TCU you transplant is recent enough to have the full Bluetooth implementation. Try to get one manufactured later than September 2006.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:38 AM
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Thanks very much. Will any make do (Everest / continental etc)?

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Old 05-06-2013, 06:02 PM
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Will a tcu from an e63 fit or must it be from an e65. The part number I have seen for sale is 8410917775402

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Old 05-06-2013, 06:06 PM
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Thanks very much. Will any make do (Everest / continental etc)?

Thanks again
best to make sure on the label its sw 0906 onwards and its a tcu 1.5 most ece
heres 1 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-TCU-MO...item3cd0c60480
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-TCU-MO...item3cd13cfa8b
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:24 PM
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Thanks very much for your help. I've bought the unit. Hopefully they'll post it to me.

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HELP

My Bluetooth unit has arrived but when I have removed my old Siemens unit the connectors are totally different.




To



Any ideas please???

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Old 05-12-2013, 05:21 AM
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Re: How to Retrofit a Bluetooth TCU to your car

Phil not been funny but u need to read this thread from the start it will explain exactly what to do from start to finish especially where to get the proper connecting plug from and how and wat wires to change over etc and how to code it ,it is quiet easy to do but a lot to explain .wat I done was had the page open on my laptop that shows Stuartjohns post on how to do it in this thread .

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Old 05-12-2013, 06:40 AM
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Thanks irish745, sadly you will have to do some reading! You will need the new connector, I got mine from an audi dealer, BMW didn't stock that connector for some reason.

To give you a hint start with post 243, I listed all wiring for a UK Siemens to Bluetooth TCU conversion. The next page shows the installation and coding process. I did list the part number for the connector too on one of my posts around there.

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Old 05-12-2013, 08:28 AM
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Sorry guys. I was just keen to get it done and panicked a bit. I'll read through properly first

'Best to remain silent and appear stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!'

I'll let you know how I get on

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