Is the look of the E92 outdated

Originally Posted by beden1

"bar mitzvah syndrome"? I thought boys do the bar mitzvah thing when they are 13?

Where I live, the high school parking lot is full of "new" BMWs and Audis. But, who gives a rats behind if younger people also like BMWs - like that's somehow beneath you? If you care so much that they are driving the same car as you, then I'd say you have to up your game beyond getting an F32.

Yes the "Bar Mitzvah Syndrome" is a serious issue.
Once young Jewish kids start driving E9x it's the beginning of the end.
What's next?
Young Italian kids?
People who aren't even White Anglo Saxon Protestants?



Back the good old days there were cars made specifically for WASPs - but today anything goes!
In those days the only thing we had to worry about was the "Young Debutante Syndrome"

What's this world coming to?

CA

Fashion is fun, however, I feel sorry for those who allow themselves to be ruled by the opinion of others - which constitutes a form of slavery. This realm of self-subjugation is usually the home of the deeply insecure.

The new M4 will most likely be brilliant, but if I had waited for it, I would have denied myself the exceptional – perhaps once in a generation - automotive experience of driving an E92 M3. Cars come and go, but it is very cool to appreciate a particular car on its own aesthetic and dynamic merits, and not as a whimsical fashion statement. When I see a well-cared for older BMW – I see the manifest passion of an enthusiast, and I feel a sense of kinship.

Originally Posted by captainaudio

Yes the "Bar Mitzvah Syndrome" is a serious issue.
Once young Jewish kids start driving E9x it's the beginning of the end.
What's next?
Young Italian kids?
People who aren't even White Anglo Saxon Protestants?



Back the good old days there were cars made specifically for WASPs - but today anything goes!
In this days the only thing we had to worry about was the "Young Debutante Syndrome"

What's this world coming to?

CA

Thankfully some of us still live in neighborhoods with deed covenants protecting us from this atrocity.

Originally Posted by beden1

This Bar Mitzvah thing reminded me of a recent encounter I had with a guy whose son used to be on my Little League baseball team about 14 years ago.

I was walking my dog at the park and he drives up in a spanking new Audi S4 and parks near to where I parked my '01 Suburban. He was a total upitty so and so when I coached his kid and he had not changed much over the years. So, he sees me walking to my car and calls out to say hello. I go over and compliment him on his new car and ask how he likes it. He starts giving me the how exclusive it is and was obviously dying to say how much it cost because it is such an "expensive car". So, I say to him that I really liked the car too, and that's why I got one for my daughter as a college graduation gift.

The guy almost swallows his tongue on the spot, and when he gained his composure, he asked..."well, what are you driving then?" I said that I'm driving the Suburban over there and left it at that.

When I coached youth soccer and baseball, I never drove any of my fun cars and always had an SUV for the games and practices. That way, the parents could just hate me for being the coach and not out of jealousy as well!

Love it.

Originally Posted by Capobranco

Fashion is fun, however, I feel sorry for those who allow themselves to be ruled by the opinion of others - which constitutes a form of slavery. This realm of self-subjugation is usually the home of the deeply insecure.

The new M4 will most likely be brilliant, but if I had waited for it, I would have denied myself the exceptional – perhaps once in a generation - automotive experience of driving an E92 M3. Cars come and go, but it is very cool to appreciate a particular car on its own aesthetic and dynamic merits, and not as a whimsical fashion statement. When I see a well-cared for older BMW – I see the manifest passion of an enthusiast, and I feel a sense of kinship.

Your M3 is spectacular and it deserves to be a keeper!

Originally Posted by bear-avhistory

Should have figured that out when I noticed he listed his 328 is a "Luxury Sedan". For some reason he left out “Entry Level”

It cost a hair over $50,000.

BJ

Originally Posted by Zooks527

No, but it may have been an improvement over the S10.

The Chev S10 -- progenitor of the rubber ride, though not tip-top it did yoeman duty in its day:



Days which, we thank the all-seeing all-knowing powers, are behind us....

Personally, I love the new grill. They've added some depth to it that makes it look more substantial. I hated the pre-LCS grill with the top of the kidney attached to the hood.

There are certain parts of a BMW that should remain constant, and the kidney grill is one of them. It should never be split in two, and adding the depth/weight that the F30 design has is a welcomed improvement.

That said, I haven't seen the car in person yet.

Originally Posted by boltjaM3s

It cost a hair over $50,000.

BJ

Low $50K just like my FORD Expedition & my son in laws FORD F-150 pickup neither of which I would put into the Luxury category.

Originally Posted by bear-avhistory

Low $50K just like my FORD Expedition & my son in laws FORD F-150 pickup neither of which I would put into the Luxury category.

Now look, Bear -- those're red blooded American irons designed for your man's man.

BMW is made for the thinking person, male or female or anywhere thereabout.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah I suppose that’s true in most cases. Its just hard to believe in this case much thought was put into concluding that just because he has a BMW his fodder by products don’t stink.

Originally Posted by CALWATERBOY

The Chev S10 -- progenitor of the rubber ride, though not tip-top it did yoeman duty in its day:

Not in the Blazer edition with the base engine at introduction. That one couldn't drive at the speed limit on level ground in top gear (no joke - if you weren't going at least 10 mph over the speed limit, it wouldn't hold speed in its top gear).

Originally Posted by bear-avhistory

They sold over 113,000 3 series in the US during 2008, everbody had your car from day 1.

well its even more now, that was my point?

Originally Posted by beden1

"bar mitzvah syndrome"? I thought boys do the bar mitzvah thing when they are 13?

Where I live, the high school parking lot is full of "new" BMWs and Audis. But, who gives a rats behind if younger people also like BMWs - like that's somehow beneath you? If you care so much that they are driving the same car as you, then I'd say you have to up your game beyond getting an F32.

lol man it has nothing to do with it being a BMW. its about being unique im the same way about my shoes and my skateboard.

Originally Posted by beden1

This Bar Mitzvah thing reminded me of a recent encounter I had with a guy whose son used to be on my Little League baseball team about 14 years ago.

I was walking my dog at the park and he drives up in a spanking new Audi S4 and parks near to where I parked my '01 Suburban. He was a total upitty so and so when I coached his kid and he had not changed much over the years. So, he sees me walking to my car and calls out to say hello. I go over and compliment him on his new car and ask how he likes it. He starts giving me the how exclusive it is and was obviously dying to say how much it cost because it is such an "expensive car". So, I say to him that I really liked the car too, and that's why I got one for my daughter as a college graduation gift.

The guy almost swallows his tongue on the spot, and when he gained his composure, he asked..."well, what are you driving then?" I said that I'm driving the Suburban over there and left it at that.

When I coached youth soccer and baseball, I never drove any of my fun cars and always had an SUV for the games and practices. That way, the parents could just hate me for being the coach and not out of jealousy as well!

oh i get it now. you took offense cause i was ragging on your daughter. well maybe one day she'll be successful enough to buy her own instead of just having one handed to her...

Originally Posted by chris328

lol man it has nothing to do with it being a BMW. its about being unique im the same way about my shoes and my skateboard.

i dont think im unqiue cause i drive my crappy little 3 series, but i do try and drive one that is unique in and of itself.

you must be one of those people who believes "BMWs should only be grey, black and white"

BMW corporate robot army FTW!

and fwiw, i could probably get a 6 series next time around to truly show everyone who much cooler i am. but in the end i just need a car to get back and forth, dont really care enough. but at the same time dont want to look like a spoiled brat whose parents just bought them a new BMW.

Originally Posted by chris328

oh i get it now. you took offense cause i was ragging on your daughter. well maybe one day she'll be successful enough to buy her own instead of just having one handed to her...

She already is on her way to success. Has a great job and her own place with a garage in the city of Philadelphia. She met the goals we set for her during college and in getting a job. She earned the reward of driving a great car before she gets loaded down with all of the responsibilities that get thrown at you later in life.

Good job. I wonder how many starved, diseased children your daughters car is worth?

Originally Posted by chris328

Good job. I wonder how many starved, diseased children your daughters car is worth?

Why is that my problem? My wife and I had as many children as WE COULD easily AFFORD. Many of those people should have planned like we did. Besides, my taxes already support those people who have babies just so they can receive more child subsidies from our friendly socialist government.

Originally Posted by chris328

Good job. I wonder how many starved, diseased children your daughters car is worth?

I guess we shouldn't have gotten an M3 for our son either!

Back to topic.

I say this many times.....most cars look dated once the new model comes out.
BUT, put new rims (with agresive offset), professionaly detailed the car, it'll stay ahead of the curve.

I just detailed my 2002 X5 completely (including plastic treatment, wheel well and under-cariage etc), powder coated the rims, put new headlamps (no polishing it won't work here cause the reflector fades) and it looks way better than most E70 on the street.

Originally Posted by beden1

I guess we shouldn't have gotten an M3 for our son either!

Originally Posted by chris328

Good job. I wonder how many starved, diseased children your daughters car is worth?

Dunno. How many starved, diseased children could be supported with the insurance premium you pay on your car instead of on a 15-year-old Corolla? How many could be supported with the cost of the pair of shoes you're wearing versus a second-hand pair from Goodwill? Why do any of these questions have any bearing on a purchase a parent makes for his own child?

Because for every 16 yr old that gets an M3, 1000 malnourished 8 yr olds in 3rd world countries die unseen and unheard. Who cares about those friggin subhumans though. We need our kids to be cool, right? Cause money is everything is this society, even if it means grossly misappropriating wealth to people who already are disgustingly wealthy.