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Old 06-18-2012, 01:42 PM
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At Capitol Raceway it's $20-25 for all of the runs you can complete. They also rent helmets for $10.
That's a much better deal than where I go. Plus you have to supply your own helmet or you can buy one for $100+ at the track.

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Old 06-18-2012, 02:32 PM
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Using a calculator at Wallace Racing I get the following:
1) M5, 114.6mph and 4137lbs yields 512hp. (data from MotorTrend)
2) 550, 106.9mph and 4354lbs yields 437hp. (data from MotorTrend)
3) RajG, 110.6mph and 4550lbs yields 506hp. (from RajG's data above)
4) Me, 112.9mph and 4760lbs yields 563hp. (my best trap speed & measured weight)

I suspect BMW's stock numbers are in general underestimated, but I believe BMW quotes minimum performance numbers since manufacturing variances will produce engines with different power levels; every engine does not leave the factory with the exact same horsepower.
I suspect two things in this data:

1) weights for published cars.
2) AWD launch advantage.

The AWD launch advantage can't be overlooked.

I think those two things are skewing the calculations a bit.
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That's a much better deal than where I go. Plus you have to supply your own helmet or you can buy one for $100+ at the track.

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lol if I were to total 70+k the last thing I'd worry about is my head
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:59 PM
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I suspect two things in this data:

1) weights for published cars.
2) AWD launch advantage.

The AWD launch advantage can't be overlooked.

I think those two things are skewing the calculations a bit.
I'm not privy to their data sources and/or formulas, so please take my comments at face value.

1) These are the measured test weights. Which one(s) look wrong?
2) The theory is AWD affects elapsed time, but not trap speed. I think the RWD Dinan F10's are hitting the same trap speeds.
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After a chat with Dinan, they recommended that I install the Stage 3 software - which I went ahead and did the same day I initially thought I would only benefit from the software upgrade if I had the Dinan exhaust, but they explained that the upgrade would benefit all cars with better airflow including mine which doesn't have any mufflers. With the Stage 3 software in place, I decided to hit the track again to compare how my car did with my Stage 2 run last month . . .

Compared to the Stage 2 software, I definitely noticed improvements. I consistently hit 110+MPH which was something I was having trouble doing before. The results from my 1st run last month and my most recent run are below. Overall, my times are still weaker than other people that have hit the track with Stage 2/3 which I'm thinking is primarily related to my troubles getting off the line when the light turns green What'd you guys think?

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my buddy has a 550i x drive stock with 400 miles i used launch control in his 550i and it felt way way faster then my 550i but what im getting to i ran a 12'900 5500 Miles bone stock my friends 550i x feels way way faster to me cause its awd system with the launch control if you have dinan stage III with a muffler delete you should be atleast a 12'500
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:10 AM
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my buddy has a 550i x drive stock with 400 miles i used launch control in his 550i and it felt way way faster then my 550i but what im getting to i ran a 12'900 5500 Miles bone stock my friends 550i x feels way way faster to me cause its awd system with the launch control if you have dinan stage III with a muffler delete you should be atleast a 12'500
What procedure are you following for 'launch control'?
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:58 PM
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Welcome back. There are a couple of guys who put on Stage 3 without the exhaust, but I added the Dinan Exhaust when I added Stage 3. I personally don't fell any difference performance-wise, but the sound of the car is much improved in my opinion. It's not very loud, but it reminds me and lets others know the car has a sporting nature.
Dunderhi,
Are there any videos of the dinan exhaust? Would love to hear it.
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Old 09-25-2012, 06:22 PM
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Are there any videos of the dinan exhaust? Would love to hear it.
Sorry, I never got around to making a video. All I have is a cell phone and with past cars I've recorded, most of the bass is lost when using the phone. All I know is I'm not allowed to start the car in garage if Mrs Dunderhi is sleeping upstairs. It's not the noise, but it's the low-frequency vibration in the floor.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:48 PM
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What procedure are you following for 'launch control'?
Put the car in sport + then hold the traction control down untill dsc is completely off put the gear lever in sport mode hold on the gas and brake all the way down
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:37 PM
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my buddy has a 550i x drive stock with 400 miles i used launch control in his 550i and it felt way way faster then my 550i but what im getting to i ran a 12'900 5500 Miles bone stock my friends 550i x feels way way faster to me cause its awd system with the launch control if you have dinan stage III with a muffler delete you should be atleast a 12'500
I agree, my times should be better, but I'm just not that good at launching the car which is hurting my times. Hopefully a few more trips to the track will help my time.

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Old 10-02-2012, 12:25 PM
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Put the car in sport + then hold the traction control down untill dsc is completely off put the gear lever in sport mode hold on the gas and brake all the way down

Tried this and lit up the tires...what'd I miss?
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Tried this and lit up the tires...what'd I miss?
Nothing- the 550's don't have launch control....
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Nothing- the 550's don't have launch control....
Exactly, the procedure described is power breaking. It probably works close to LC with an AWD 550 due to the grip but with 400 hp + you will light up the tires on an rwd with traction control disabled. With proper LC the computer adjusts rpm,power and wheel spin for an optimal launch. Be aware that power breaking stresses the tranny, it will heat up.

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That'd explain why I didn't read about it until now...strange - everything else I've read on the internet has been 100% accurate.........
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That'd explain why I didn't read about it until now...strange - everything else I've read on the internet has been 100% accurate.........
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