Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 5 Series > E60 (2004 - 2010)

E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #26  
Old 09-27-2012, 11:37 AM
NOTORIOUSe60 NOTORIOUSe60 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Washington, DC
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 144
Mein Auto: 2008 550i Sport
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shahul_BMW View Post
Notoriouse60

FYI, please see the link and you get the answer

http://www.roadandtrack.com/future-c...ng-2014-bmw-m3

BMW has itself understood that V8 or V10 is not going to do anything with Power, instead they are going to bring all their super fast cars with OUR OUR engine to get power more mpg and what more the reliability which they have been testing with our 535/335i already.. So who wins now..
Shahul, I think you're missing my point. The whole point of my post wasn't to tell people which car was better or which power-plant is better. There is never going to be a final answer to that because everyone's tastes are different. I was simply trying to boil down to a few short and relatively quick questions one can ask themselves when debating "do I want a 550i or a 535i?" The way that you answer those questions should likely pretty easily determine whether you should get the one or the other... Thats all.

I for example love my V-8 and I don't really mod cars any longer because my wife drives my car now and I found that in MY experience in the PAST that mods I made to my cars usually ended up making the car super fun, but more trouble, more things went wrong and more money ended up getting spent, usually for pretty marginal returns in HP and Torque. This is MY experience and it was in the past.

I do not have a N54 or N55 motor but as I said in another response, I have driven many of them, modded and not. They're great motors! They can be fast as hell and are real smooth and torquey across the band but especially at low rpm's! They can blow the doors off a stock 550i with upping the psi. Thats awesome. For my money and the way I drive and who I share my car with and my lack of wanting to do too many mods and for what its worth, my desire to keep a car somewhat close to what it was sent off the line to be, I like my 550i with a handful of little things done to it.

I don't disagree with what you're saying or with what the link says or that many BMWs are now force-fed, or that all M power plants are now force-fed or that more and more each year across all brands are, etc. etc. etc. I'm simply saying, and I'm not alone here, that I like BMW's NA V-8 over the twin turbo'd straight 6 in a close to stock car. Read the forums of M5 owners, I'll be the first to say the new M5 is SICK!!! But there are a lot of dudes out there with the past 2 generations' saying its a travesty to lower the displacement and put twin turbos on an M5. Read the M3 forums, people are sick that the new M3 will have turbos too and no longer be NA. Maybe 20 years from now we'll all eat our words but everyone is allowed their own opinion and thats really the whole point of the post.

People, make up your own minds and don't hate on people that have a differing view.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-27-2012, 12:51 PM
F1.tifosi's Avatar
F1.tifosi F1.tifosi is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: NC
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 581
Send a message via Yahoo to F1.tifosi
Mein Auto: BMW 535i Sport, 08 Accord
Quote:
Originally Posted by NOTORIOUSe60 View Post
Shahul, I think you're missing my point. The whole point of my post wasn't to tell people which car was better or which power-plant is better. There is never going to be a final answer to that because everyone's tastes are different. I was simply trying to boil down to a few short and relatively quick questions one can ask themselves when debating "do I want a 550i or a 535i?" The way that you answer those questions should likely pretty easily determine whether you should get the one or the other... Thats all.

I for example love my V-8 and I don't really mod cars any longer because my wife drives my car now and I found that in MY experience in the PAST that mods I made to my cars usually ended up making the car super fun, but more trouble, more things went wrong and more money ended up getting spent, usually for pretty marginal returns in HP and Torque. This is MY experience and it was in the past.

I do not have a N54 or N55 motor but as I said in another response, I have driven many of them, modded and not. They're great motors! They can be fast as hell and are real smooth and torquey across the band but especially at low rpm's! They can blow the doors off a stock 550i with upping the psi. Thats awesome. For my money and the way I drive and who I share my car with and my lack of wanting to do too many mods and for what its worth, my desire to keep a car somewhat close to what it was sent off the line to be, I like my 550i with a handful of little things done to it.

I don't disagree with what you're saying or with what the link says or that many BMWs are now force-fed, or that all M power plants are now force-fed or that more and more each year across all brands are, etc. etc. etc. I'm simply saying, and I'm not alone here, that I like BMW's NA V-8 over the twin turbo'd straight 6 in a close to stock car. Read the forums of M5 owners, I'll be the first to say the new M5 is SICK!!! But there are a lot of dudes out there with the past 2 generations' saying its a travesty to lower the displacement and put twin turbos on an M5. Read the M3 forums, people are sick that the new M3 will have turbos too and no longer be NA. Maybe 20 years from now we'll all eat our words but everyone is allowed their own opinion and thats really the whole point of the post.

People, make up your own minds and don't hate on people that have a differing view.

I Do agree with you, it's one's preference.

Let me give you an example, people bring new releases on products based on the market/demand/value/customer's satisfaction... Every product when released will have a lot of expectations and customers like us are skeptical with the new change that is coming in....

So all those M5/M3 owners have liked the V8/V10 power and now when they hear that BMW is changing the direction to an inline 6 they are again skeptical and doubtful if it would be in par with their current M's.... Time will prove all those people with a simple fact that we all 535i's love the engine and we are sure the new era of turbo's will rock... Everything has a flaw nothing is 100% perfect so we accept and go for the best..

Anyways, there is nothing personally i commented, like you said everyone has a different taste and preference..

I like the 535i and you like the 550i

Lets all rock with the bimmer
__________________
418whp/476wtq, 0-60 in 3.83s
Jet Black | LCSW | DP WT | ZCW | ZPP | ZSP | 261 | 2TB | 322 | 415 | 416 | 609 | 610 | 620 | 677 | 6FL | 6UH |F/R Cameras | Escort 9500ix |
Cobb (Race E30 Map PTF -Jake) | Injen DCI | BMS OCC | ER anodized FMIC |AR DP Catted |TIAL Q BOV | ER Diverter Valve Charge Pipe | Quaife LSD | RPI GT Race Catback Exhaust | P3(VIDI) Boost Gauge| BMS LT Thermostat | LED AE, Interior, Fog, Side Marker | 19" Style 433 M | Michelin PS A/S 3 |
BMWCCA member# 480266

Last edited by F1.tifosi; 09-27-2012 at 12:52 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-27-2012, 03:56 PM
NOTORIOUSe60 NOTORIOUSe60 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Washington, DC
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 144
Mein Auto: 2008 550i Sport
Agreed! We're on the same page. Best driving Shahul!
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-23-2014, 08:10 PM
calvinu_24 calvinu_24 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 4
Mein Auto:
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillInDenver View Post
When I bought my 545, the top 6-cylinder variant was the 530, so the decision was easier. But I feel like if I were to have purchased an E60 with the N54/N55, I'd be going around wondering whether I would have been better off in an E90 with the same engine. At least with the V8, you have a sense of exclusivity.

Then again, I live in Denver, and the stock 535 is almost certainly faster than the 545 at this altitude and maybe about the same as the 550. So...

I also live in denver and I can definitely second this.


Sent from BimmerApp mobile app
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 09-23-2014, 08:49 PM
Gangplank Gangplank is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Las Vegas
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 113
Mein Auto: '04 545i
I have a 545 w/ sport pkg & active steering. It's a fantastic car. I can't imagine needing more power in it. It drives smoothly at cruising speeds and handles like a sports car when requested of it.
__________________
'04 545i | 15.01.2004 | N62B440O
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 09-24-2014, 09:10 AM
WillInDenver's Avatar
WillInDenver WillInDenver is online now
1oz perception-1# obscure
Location: Denver
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,362
Mein Auto: 2013 535i XDrive M-Sport
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillInDenver View Post
When I bought my 545, the top 6-cylinder variant was the 530, so the decision was easier. But I feel like if I were to have purchased an E60 with the N54/N55, I'd be going around wondering whether I would have been better off in an E90 with the same engine. At least with the V8, you have a sense of exclusivity.

Then again, I live in Denver, and the stock 535 is almost certainly faster than the 545 at this altitude and maybe about the same as the 550. So...
Quote:
Originally Posted by calvinu_24 View Post
I also live in denver and I can definitely second this.
Interesting. I wrote that post way back in 2012, and about a year after I wrote it I traded the 545 on an F10 535 xDrive. Two things:
  1. Yes, the N55 is a little faster at this altitude than the N62 was in my 545.
  2. Everything you guys have heard about the softening of the 5 series on the F10 is true. The F10 is an exceedingly nice car, but nothing at all like the E60 in the driving. Particularly on an xDrive model.

I miss my 545 every day. There was nothing wrong with it and I had no payment on it. Boo hoo. Those of you with late model E60s in good condition who may be pondering moving to an F10, I advise you to hold your E60 a while longer, or else look at a 435 Gran Coupe. BMW changed the recipe on the 5 series dramatically for the F10, and many of you may not like it.
__________________
-Will
2013 535i xDrive M-Sport | 2005 545i Sport (Retired and Missed) | 2001 X5 3.0 Sport (Retired)

Last edited by WillInDenver; 09-24-2014 at 09:29 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 09-24-2014, 09:48 AM
Gangplank Gangplank is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Las Vegas
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 113
Mein Auto: '04 545i
Being new to the E60 and getting a 545 all I can say is it's the best driving car I've ever owned. It has it's issues but fix them one at a time and it should run 200k miles a d drive every bit of fantastic.

A friend has the new 3 series F30 and says the same thing vs the E90. If I decide to move up in years I wily probably get the latest model E90 I can find with low miles & the 6 cyl motor.
__________________
'04 545i | 15.01.2004 | N62B440O
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 09-24-2014, 10:09 AM
BMWFAN275 BMWFAN275 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Stamford, CT
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 629
Mein Auto: 2009 535i, Sport
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillInDenver View Post
Interesting. I wrote that post way back in 2012, and about a year after I wrote it I traded the 545 on an F10 535 xDrive. Two things:


I miss my 545 every day. There was nothing wrong with it and I had no payment on it. Boo hoo. Those of you with late model E60s in good condition who may be pondering moving to an F10, I advise you to hold your E60 a while longer, or else look at a 435 Gran Coupe. BMW changed the recipe on the 5 series dramatically for the F10, and many of you may not like it.
I actually drove up to complete the trade in of my 2009 535i for a new E550 cabriolet. In going over the paperwork, it became apparent they made a massive error in the deal, so I collected my 535i and drove away. Actually, I was never so happy to not trade a car! Whathappens now with the E550 is up in the air but the 535i is staying in the family. I will never find another car that drives like it. I've long since written off the F10 after a few days with a loaner.
__________________
2009 535i Sport, NAV, CWP, SAT, IPOD
2014 Porsche Cayenne Diesel
2012 Volkswagen Jetta GLI
2006 Honda Accord EX-L
Retired fleet:
2013 Auid A5 Cabrio 2.0T (troubles, troubles)
2005 Toyota 4Runner Limited V8 (My snow tires)
2007 530xi
2004 Jaguar XJ8
2006 Saab 93 2.0T unfixable glitches, bye bye
1999 BMW 528i Touring
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
535i sports pkg, 550i sport, 550i versus 535i


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 5 Series > E60 (2004 - 2010)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms