t3h bored threadz - non-e30 chatter

You mean the line from the brake res? As long as the e34 one is long enough, you will be fine, it's just a rubber hose. If you are talking about the hard line from the clutch master to the slave, it might work if you bend it appropriately.

Ok I meant will it bolt straight to the e30s pedal?

Originally Posted by fcsteve

a 3rd pedal would help

Lol Yeah I'm getting that I didn't think the E34 pedals would fit so gotta hit cl

Forced yes I meant the hard line I grabbed the brake fluid res. From the E34 since mine is capped off will it hurt my master to pull mine off and pop the e34s on there? And how do I make it start in any gear I read it somewhere and can't remember

You just need to cut the tab off on your current res. They were all made the same, the manual cars just have the end cut off.

Ok what any stopping the thing that makes it start in neutral or park

Originally Posted by BmwMan92

Ok what any stopping the thing that makes it start in neutral or park

You need to jump the neutral safety switch.

google E30 manual conversion for all the information you need. on a right hand drive car its just a nuts and bolts conversion, only have to short two wires to ground to get past neutral switch. RHD has a seperate reservoir etc for the clutch, but we still have the same brake reservoir with the little nipple on it so there you go.

I highly doubt any E34 parts will work for the E30 though. they are very different anaimals as i have found out. E32/E34 yes, E30/E34 not so much. E34 pedal box definately wont fit. but this experience is based on RHD cars of course, so LHD may be different, but i doubt it.

Getting my clutch pedal in the morning I will grab the slave line off that e30. Your not saying I'm going to have to cut any holes are you? Am I going to need any special Bmw tool to align the clutch?

you need a bmw clutch alignment tool

Where do I find this?

Originally Posted by BmwMan92

Getting my clutch pedal in the morning I will grab the slave line off that e30. Your not saying I'm going to have to cut any holes are you? Am I going to need any special Bmw tool to align the clutch?

no holes to cut, on a RHD there is an oval panel on the firewall that you need to punch out for the master cylinder to poke its tail out and connect to the hardline in the engine bay, and a rubber gasket to make it water proof. The oval is pressed into the chassis when built so comes out if you tap it a few times with a ballpein hammer. not sure if LHD is the same?

Originally Posted by fcsteve

you need a bmw clutch alignment tool

no you don't, have never used one. get the 10mm 1/4" drive 1" long socket most socket sets come with and wrap a few layers of sticky tape around the outside to make it snug in the clutch hole, with a 3" 1/4"drive extension on it, then slip another socket over the top the is the same size as the center of the pressure plate. I use 100% Bahco tools

that said, ive heard some clutch kits will come with a plastic alignment tool to suit, but i have only ever brought OEM

^^^ Yup. Unless your flywheel has been drastically shaved down, then the tool isn't really necessary if you have common sense. A Sharpie marker works well too with some electrical tape wrapped around it. It's amazing what you can come up with when you have an issue at the track that's a 4 hour drive from home lol. But I have found with severely lightened FW's the clutch disk like to fall down when using a stub/marker/extension since the lip around the edge of the FW will have been shaved off - it's even worse with a 4 puck.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the pilot bearing. The auto won't have one installed in the crank and the trans will make a racket if it's missing.

Originally Posted by ForcedFirebird

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the pilot bearing. The auto won't have one installed in the crank and the trans will make a racket if it's missing.

i recall thinking about that when i posted about, i must have forgotten to say it!

Lol pilot will be installed I've done a ton and a half of reading need to grab trans mounts and clutch kit. Then I'm installing, tired of automatic already. I'm pretty low on cash though can I use the center support bearing on my autos drive line on the 5 speed drive line? I already have a new guibo but not csb

CSB is a pain to get off the drive shaft and keep in one piece.

Originally Posted by ForcedFirebird

CSB is a pain to get off the drive shaft and keep in one piece.

im trying to remember the setup off the top of my head, but i think the CSB is on the rear half shaft anyway which is identical between all models and transmissions its only the front half thats different.

Doing the swap tomorrow HOPEFULLY lol clutch pedal and lines are all on along with necessary wiring needed now its down to nuts and bolts. Wish me luck!

Swap is finally complete. The 5 speed is way better than auto definitely worth it

Congrats on the swap. Wish I had the money to do that too

Thank you =) what a frickin difference! It halls now

id say its the best bang for buck E30 mod

Originally Posted by _Ethrty-Andy_

id say its the best bang for buck E30 mod

By far I ended up tossing the z3 short shifter. The only thing it really did was annoy me.

Scored a stock m3 one piece shift boot/knob tonight!

Originally Posted by BmwMan92

By far I ended up tossing the z3 short shifter. The only thing it really did was annoy me.

yes id agree with this. I tried a friends E30 with the Z3 shift kit and didnt like it, so have always stuck with the stock setup, even on my old twin cam. Wank effect only i think

Total garbage. plus if you cant shift the car right, probably should use the money on driving lessons instead of a horrid short shifter.