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Old 10-04-2012, 07:46 PM
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Hard braking, jerk at stop.

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PROBLEM: Just purchased a 2006 BMW 750LI. LOVE IT. Small issues here and there such as angel eye out (fixed it!!) but there is one that my mechanic and I disagree on. I am NOT a mechanic, but here is the issue:

Car drives perfect. Shifts perfect. Triptonic - perfect. Downshifts perfect. BUT, when I am coming to a stop I get a jerk. There is no unusual sound or unusual feeling in the wheel. The car simply doesn't want me to come to a smooth stop. If I am traveling at any speed and come to a stop with 'standard' brake pressure, the car will brake as usual. No shaking, no pulling. When you hit that last 5mph to 0mph stop, the stop will be accompanied by a jerk (at stop), then immediately let go - the car will move a little bit for a moment - and come to a complete stop. The jerk does not occur while the car is in motion, the jerk IS a premature stop. It is as if you are apply the brakes as usual, and right before you stop, you intentionally hit the brakes harder to have a sudden stop (the "jerk"). When the car does come to a stop, the car rocks back to forth a bit - more than you expect if you came to a hard stop. It almost seems like something is loose and is giving during braking.

If I purposely try to come to a smooth and gradual stop, I can minimize the jerk at the end, but can't get the really smooth stop that anyone would expect.

If I brake with harder pressure near the end, the car will still hit the premature stop but I can prevent the vehicle from the small movement forward.

I do not think this is a tranny issue as I even did this whole in Neutral and it still happened.

My mechanic originally thought that it was a common problem he see's that involves some parts in the front suspension (thrust bar's or something??). He has since told me that the rack needs to be replaced. I have a very hard time believing that. Again, I am not a mechanic, but in my old Mercedes S500 I had the rack replaced when I noticed I something was different in the wheel like the power steering was malfunctioning and I couldn't make fine adjustments. I could feel it. I can't feel anything in the wheel in my 750.

I have searched the forums and see this mentioned for other models, but not specifically with the E66. I have read it could be the tranny or some bushings. Before I go lay over $2000+ down on a new rack thought I would ask the community for some insight.

HELP. I would be more than happy to post a video to youtube from both the interior cabin experience and from the outside.

Thank you.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:55 PM
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the factory BMW brakes are if you may 'sticky,' it exhibits good braking performance. I say deal with it or switch out for different brake pads, preferably ceramic brake pads since they are known to have better brake feel.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:57 PM
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I don't believe the brakes are THAT sticky that what you are describing is happening..unless I misunderstood your description.

It could also be that auto park is on (parking brake goes on a stops) or your transmission oil needs to be changed from downshifting from 2 to 1?
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:02 AM
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I think it's the transmission too because I have the same problem. My car sometimes will only downshift to 2nd, taking off from a stand still like an 1986 Ford Escort, lol....
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:33 AM
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It's your guibo(flex disk) on the driveshaft.... Common problem. Part is about 130 and you should get the labour done for under 350 to install it. The guibo is a rubber flex disk that connects your driftsshaft to your transmission , the are metal rings within the rubber flex disk that wear off over time.
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:03 AM
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Put the car in manual mode and shift to 1st when near a stop and then apply the brake as usual to see if the jerk happens.
I've got a little hesitation in Drive when setting off that isn't present in Manual mode; may be a transmission software issue.
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