Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > The Best of Bimmerfest! > Ask-A-Dealer

Ask-A-Dealer
Talk to our team of BMW Client Advisors. Get all of your buying/financing/leasing questions answered here!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #151  
Old 10-05-2012, 11:57 AM
NoI4plz NoI4plz is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Stop stalking me!
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,065
Mein Auto: A box with 4 circles
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrjoed2 View Post
Thanks Justin,

Good info to have on the order question.

I have seen a few offers that can't be stacked with USAA, the drive for team USA for example. But I think most can such as option credits, holiday cash,ect. USAA fine print reads "This incentive can be combined with all current retail offers unless otherwise stated"

Also , do you happen to know anything about the production start for the new version of Idrive in the 6 series?
Officially no one knows that info currently. Speculation from different websites suggest that spring is the earliest we can see the new idrive for most vehicles.
__________________
BMW and Mercedes Build Beta Products!
Lexus build Release Candidate Products!

Why does this matter?
CAUSE EVERY TIME someone says Lexus has better build quality, one should consider what Toyota their Lexus Engine and chassis platform comes out of and how long that part has been tested in the real world!
Reply With Quote
  #152  
Old 10-05-2012, 12:12 PM
mrjoed2 mrjoed2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,405
Mein Auto: 650 coupe SE, V8 4runner
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin@NCBMW View Post
Officially...No
How about unofficially?
Reply With Quote
  #153  
Old 10-05-2012, 01:08 PM
miamiboyca's Avatar
miamiboyca miamiboyca is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Dallas, TX
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,669
Mein Auto: F10 6MT
Some is known... take a look at something SS provided to me when I was asking about the new iDrive.

Quote:
Originally Posted by shawnsheridan View Post
Personally, I would be reluctant to buy any 2012 pre July build F10 without the new upgraded Navigation Pro and iDrive-ConnectedDrive system:

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716464
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716908
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691510

Next up after that is the fully configurable LCD gauge system on the next Facelifted F10 5 Series:

http://www.5seriesblog.com/2012/05/2...meter-display/

That may also include the the new iDrive Touch Controller that will first appear in the F2014 F15 X5:

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716469

You can't always sit on the sidelines waiting on new technology, and at some point you have to get into the game, but the upgraded iDrive system, which is basically here now, and the upcoming LCD Gauge display are pretty substantial improvements, and may be worth waiting for.
__________________
2013 535i Space Grey, Biege, M-SPort, Premium, Tech, Cold Weather, Luxury Seating, PDC, 6MT ED-10/11/2012 - PCD Redelivery-12/14/12
Reply With Quote
  #154  
Old 10-05-2012, 01:13 PM
mrjoed2 mrjoed2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,405
Mein Auto: 650 coupe SE, V8 4runner
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoI4plz View Post
Officially no one knows that info currently. Speculation from different websites suggest that spring is the earliest we can see the new idrive for most vehicles.
Yeah I have read some of the same things. But the 5 & 7 series have it NOW - I have seen it and it is a nice improvement. And the 3 series gets it starting Nov. 6 series is one of the last - ridiculous given it's a flagship model.
Reply With Quote
  #155  
Old 10-05-2012, 01:15 PM
mrjoed2 mrjoed2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,405
Mein Auto: 650 coupe SE, V8 4runner
Quote:
Originally Posted by miamiboyca View Post
Some is known... take a look at something SS provided to me when I was asking about the new iDrive.
Thanks - I think the LCD dash is slated for the '14 6 series, which means waiting for July '13 production likely (ugh)
Reply With Quote
  #156  
Old 10-05-2012, 02:57 PM
mrjoed2 mrjoed2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,405
Mein Auto: 650 coupe SE, V8 4runner
Quote:
Originally Posted by miamiboyca View Post
Some is known... take a look at something SS provided to me when I was asking about the new iDrive.


Yes, agree - the new Idrive is worth waiting for. I find is frustrating that BMW keeps the rollout details so secret. No dealer I have spoken to has got back to me about official date I can order to get it in a 650. My thought is BMW does NOT want customers to know about new system -just order now and get the outdated system in a $85,000 car.
Reply With Quote
  #157  
Old 10-05-2012, 04:34 PM
miamiboyca's Avatar
miamiboyca miamiboyca is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Dallas, TX
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,669
Mein Auto: F10 6MT
I don't think it that treacherous.. Lol

In my experience its the product team that decides when something goes into production. That idrive team team may have told the 6 series team that its ready to a certain point and perhaps the 6 series team is waiting on some enhancement (something in the road map) or something else completely to combine at same time of an update. The more pieces the more complex the planning and the smaller the item that can cause a delay.

And we know how Germans like to be precise so until they are sure they are ready, mums the word.
__________________
2013 535i Space Grey, Biege, M-SPort, Premium, Tech, Cold Weather, Luxury Seating, PDC, 6MT ED-10/11/2012 - PCD Redelivery-12/14/12
Reply With Quote
  #158  
Old 10-05-2012, 04:42 PM
djsaad1 djsaad1 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: austin
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 701
Mein Auto: range rover
There is already a newer touch idrive that will probably start rolling out next fall or so. You will be outdated either way, might as well buy during the holiday season and enjoy the better rates or just wait for the 2014.
Reply With Quote
  #159  
Old 10-05-2012, 06:10 PM
mrjoed2 mrjoed2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,405
Mein Auto: 650 coupe SE, V8 4runner
Quote:
Originally Posted by miamiboyca View Post
I don't think it that treacherous.. Lol

In my experience its the product team that decides when something goes into production. That idrive team team may have told the 6 series team that its ready to a certain point and perhaps the 6 series team is waiting on some enhancement (something in the road map) or something else completely to combine at same time of an update. The more pieces the more complex the planning and the smaller the item that can cause a delay.

And we know how Germans like to be precise so until they are sure they are ready, mums the word.

Yeah, but the cats out of the bag as the new version is in the 5 and 7 series on dealer lots now. And I might be wrong, but it's the same upgrade across the model range so the 6 team should not have to do much - just install the new hardware on the line.
I look at it this way - the newest hardware/tech should go into the line top down. 6 & 7 series first, 1 series last.
Reply With Quote
  #160  
Old 10-05-2012, 06:13 PM
mrjoed2 mrjoed2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,405
Mein Auto: 650 coupe SE, V8 4runner
Quote:
Originally Posted by djsaad1 View Post
There is already a newer touch idrive that will probably start rolling out next fall or so. You will be outdated either way, might as well buy during the holiday season and enjoy the better rates or just wait for the 2014.
Nope, rather be outdated 1 upgrade, not 2. This new version of idrive is the first full refresh to the system since 2008 by the way.
Reply With Quote
  #161  
Old 10-05-2012, 06:31 PM
miamiboyca's Avatar
miamiboyca miamiboyca is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Dallas, TX
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,669
Mein Auto: F10 6MT
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrjoed2 View Post
Nope, rather be outdated 1 upgrade, not 2. This new version of idrive is the first full refresh to the system since 2008 by the way.
ACTUALLY - Its not. Their is another upgrade in the pipe for touch and hand writing recognition. Could be the 7 and the 5 are testing grounds prior to going into the other lines.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrjoed2 View Post
Yeah, but the cats out of the bag as the new version is in the 5 and 7 series on dealer lots now. And I might be wrong, but it's the same upgrade across the model range so the 6 team should not have to do much - just install the new hardware on the line.
I look at it this way - the newest hardware/tech should go into the line top down. 6 & 7 series first, 1 series last.
There a lot of factors other factors including production numbers, interfaces with stereos etc. And you are entitled to your opinion but that has not been the case in many automakers.

Anyway this thread has gotten WAAAAY off track.

Jon - thanks for the finance info. I sign next week and can't wait for my short but awesome ED trip.
__________________
2013 535i Space Grey, Biege, M-SPort, Premium, Tech, Cold Weather, Luxury Seating, PDC, 6MT ED-10/11/2012 - PCD Redelivery-12/14/12

Last edited by miamiboyca; 10-05-2012 at 06:32 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #162  
Old 10-05-2012, 06:52 PM
mrjoed2 mrjoed2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,405
Mein Auto: 650 coupe SE, V8 4runner
Quote:
Originally Posted by miamiboyca View Post
ACTUALLY - Its not. Their is another upgrade in the pipe for touch and hand writing recognition. Could be the 7 and the 5 are testing grounds prior to going into the other lines.



There a lot of factors other factors including production numbers, interfaces with stereos etc. And you are entitled to your opinion but that has not been the case in many automakers.

Anyway this thread has gotten WAAAAY off track.

Jon - thanks for the finance info. I sign next week and can't wait for my short but awesome ED trip.
I agree - but know one thing, I'm not ordering now, taking delivery of a $85,000 car in Dec and have it outdated by March.
Reply With Quote
  #163  
Old 10-05-2012, 07:02 PM
thegandalf thegandalf is offline
Liked when BMW was in F1
Location: GA
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 841
Mein Auto: 2013 AH3 Lux Line
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrjoed2 View Post
I agree - but know one thing, I'm not ordering now, taking delivery of a $85,000 car in Dec and have it outdated by March.
Yet if you wait until March that car will be outdated by September. BMW might also decide to avoid bringing such a change mid year just to avoid people feeling this way.
__________________

Current car: BMW AH3 2013 - Black Sapphire-Saddle brown-ZLL-ZPP-ZTP-ZDA-HK
also 2012 Odyssey.


Past cars: Civic, Mazda6, Accord coupe, Accord Sedan.
BMW CCA Member
Reply With Quote
  #164  
Old 10-05-2012, 07:10 PM
djsaad1 djsaad1 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: austin
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 701
Mein Auto: range rover
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrjoed2 View Post
I agree - but know one thing, I'm not ordering now, taking delivery of a $85,000 car in Dec and have it outdated by March.
I understand what you are saying, but if you are already going to wait, why not wait for the 2014 model just in case it gets the even newer idrive or lcd tachometer thing.
Reply With Quote
  #165  
Old 10-05-2012, 09:08 PM
miamiboyca's Avatar
miamiboyca miamiboyca is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Dallas, TX
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,669
Mein Auto: F10 6MT
Quote:
Originally Posted by thegandalf View Post
Yet if you wait until March that car will be outdated by September. BMW might also decide to avoid bringing such a change mid year just to avoid people feeling this way.
Good point. I split the difference, went with the 2013 that has the new Idrive but passed up waiting on a 2014 that has been refreshed.

It's all what you can deal with, and how long will you wait.
__________________
2013 535i Space Grey, Biege, M-SPort, Premium, Tech, Cold Weather, Luxury Seating, PDC, 6MT ED-10/11/2012 - PCD Redelivery-12/14/12
Reply With Quote
  #166  
Old 10-06-2012, 05:45 AM
mrjoed2 mrjoed2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,405
Mein Auto: 650 coupe SE, V8 4runner
Quote:
Originally Posted by djsaad1 View Post
I understand what you are saying, but if you are already going to wait, why not wait for the 2014 model just in case it gets the even newer idrive or lcd tachometer thing.
Tough decision- one one hand not in a rush, but on the other hand the '14 won't start production likely till July, so now we are talking waiting until next Sept. Kind of crazy.
Reply With Quote
  #167  
Old 10-06-2012, 05:47 AM
mrjoed2 mrjoed2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,405
Mein Auto: 650 coupe SE, V8 4runner
Quote:
Originally Posted by miamiboyca View Post
Good point. I split the difference, went with the 2013 that has the new Idrive but passed up waiting on a 2014 that has been refreshed.

It's all what you can deal with, and how long will you wait.
That's my gut feeling too. What is your dealer telling you timeframe wise as to when to place the order to get the new Idrive in a 6?
Reply With Quote
  #168  
Old 10-06-2012, 06:10 AM
miamiboyca's Avatar
miamiboyca miamiboyca is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Dallas, TX
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,669
Mein Auto: F10 6MT
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrjoed2 View Post
That's my gut feeling too. What is your dealer telling you timeframe wise as to when to place the order to get the new Idrive in a 6?

A 6??? I wish. Look at my signature I am getting a MY 13 next week, but its a 535i.

I decided not to get a 12, but there was no way I was going to wait a year for the refresh. I can wait a little but not that long.
__________________
2013 535i Space Grey, Biege, M-SPort, Premium, Tech, Cold Weather, Luxury Seating, PDC, 6MT ED-10/11/2012 - PCD Redelivery-12/14/12
Reply With Quote
  #169  
Old 10-06-2012, 08:11 AM
mrjoed2 mrjoed2 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,405
Mein Auto: 650 coupe SE, V8 4runner
Quote:
Originally Posted by miamiboyca View Post
A 6??? I wish. Look at my signature I am getting a MY 13 next week, but its a 535i.

I decided not to get a 12, but there was no way I was going to wait a year for the refresh. I can wait a little but not that long.

Sorry, didn't see it. You should be all set. my understanding is the new idrive is standard on all 5 series that started with July production.
Reply With Quote
  #170  
Old 10-06-2012, 09:38 AM
miamiboyca's Avatar
miamiboyca miamiboyca is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Dallas, TX
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,669
Mein Auto: F10 6MT
Yep, one if the reasons I waited. Even thought the incentives on the 2012 made for a better deal.
__________________
2013 535i Space Grey, Biege, M-SPort, Premium, Tech, Cold Weather, Luxury Seating, PDC, 6MT ED-10/11/2012 - PCD Redelivery-12/14/12
Reply With Quote
  #171  
Old 10-06-2012, 09:43 AM
rmorin49's Avatar
rmorin49 rmorin49 is online now
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Hagerstown, MD,
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,152
Mein Auto: 2011 335d
Are the MF and residuals accurate on bmwconfig?
__________________

Colonel (Ret) US Army / Hagerstown, MD
1985 M635 Euro Alpine White/Pacific Blue (Fun Car)
2010 Z4 s30i Alpine White/Beige
2013 Audi A6 Ibis White/Nougat (Daily Driver)
2013 Audi A4(Ret)
2011 335d (Ret)
2009 335i vert (Ret)/PCD
2007 335i vert (Ret) ED 04-13-10/PCD
2000 740iL (Ret)
1998 328iC (Ret)
1990 535i (Ret)
1988 635CSi (Ret)

https://plus.google.com/photos/10999...COHGu-rlyIrrLg
Reply With Quote
  #172  
Old 10-06-2012, 09:48 AM
thegandalf thegandalf is offline
Liked when BMW was in F1
Location: GA
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 841
Mein Auto: 2013 AH3 Lux Line
I think they are not. Go to www.ridewithg.com to find the latest MFs and residuals.
The residual values you will get are for a 36month 15k lease. Add 2% for a 12k or 3% for a 10k.

John recently posted a Pdf with all the residuals. It's very detailed.

Right now the base nf is. 00135
__________________

Current car: BMW AH3 2013 - Black Sapphire-Saddle brown-ZLL-ZPP-ZTP-ZDA-HK
also 2012 Odyssey.


Past cars: Civic, Mazda6, Accord coupe, Accord Sedan.
BMW CCA Member

Last edited by thegandalf; 10-06-2012 at 09:52 AM. Reason: url fixed
Reply With Quote
  #173  
Old 10-06-2012, 09:49 AM
Orient330iNYC's Avatar
Orient330iNYC Orient330iNYC is offline
Flying monkey herder
Location: Wall St
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 7,152
Mein Auto: Daihatsu Terrios
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmorin49 View Post
Are the MF and residuals accurate on bmwconfig?
no, bmwconfig defaults to 0.00240 and a resid of 59%
current MF is 0.00135 across the board, resids vary by model.
__________________
Past: 2001 330i ZSP/ZPP/Step
Past: 2004 S60R 6MT Sport
Past: 2007 335i 6MT ZSP/ZCW/322/655
Past: 2010 335xi ZMP/ZCW/ZPP/PPK/PE
Present: 2013 335i 6MT ZMM/ZDH/ZTP/3AG/494/508
Current Homeland Threat Level:
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > The Best of Bimmerfest! > Ask-A-Dealer
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms