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Never been blinded by another car's lights. 20/20 vision and been driving for 28 years. .
Come on now, "never been blinded".what planet are you living on?
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I would ask the same question. Every time a drive at night in Florida (I'm at least once a year there for vacation) I get the bright lights of some trucks into my Eyes because the outside mirrors in most rental cars do not dim.
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I have never had a problem with my auto dimming rear view mirror, if you have tinted rear window, it does get too dark at night. The self dimming side view mirror I can do without. I have never been blinded by a headlight in the side view mirror. There are times I need the side mirrors to see other objects at night that are not not lit. The BMW is the only car I have ever owned that I cannot shut off the auto dimming function. In fact, there are quite a few function that BMW does not allow user control. In typical BMW fashion, they think they know whats best for the customer.
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There are times I need the side mirrors to see other objects at night that are not not lit.
Please explain. Maybe I'm the one living on the other planet.
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It looks like you can code the feature off in the F10 so it would make sense you can also code it off in the F30. Seems like a better solution then tape for those that want it permanently off.

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For example, when I back up at night, I use the side view mirrors to see whats behind me.

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It looks like you can code the feature off in the F10 so it would make sense you can also code it off in the F30. Seems like a better solution then tape for those that want it permanently off.

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I'm taking my car to the dealer tomorrow for a broken trim piece so I'll ask if they can that at the same time...
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For example, when I back up at night, I use the side view mirrors to see whats behind me.
I guess I'm on that planet.The only time my mirrors dim is when a light comes in contact with the sensor.
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I'm taking my car to the dealer tomorrow for a broken trim piece so I'll ask if they can that at the same time...
Let us know what they say. I'm guessing they won't do it for you.

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Not sure why you're so anxious about this but, no having lived in rural areas, the burbs and cities, I've never been in a situation where another car's lights bothered me. I have driven plenty of cars with dimmed mirrors and that has always annoyed me as I look for fine details on cars to discern friend from foe (cops) from a great distance. My dad kinda taught me to tell cars apart by headlights at night... dimmed mirrors it's much more difficult as the image is distorted.
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Not sure why you're so anxious about this but, no having lived in rural areas, the burbs and cities, I've never been in a situation where another car's lights bothered me. I have driven plenty of cars with dimmed mirrors and that has always annoyed me as I look for fine details on cars to discern friend from foe (cops) from a great distance. My dad kinda taught me to tell cars apart by headlights at night... dimmed mirrors it's much more difficult as the image is distorted.
I would honestly say that you are in the minority on this one. I've been driving for a long time, in rural areas, the burbs and cities, and yes, if a truck pulls up behind me and the lights shine directly into my eyes by way of the mirrors it is a bit of a problem and, in my opinion, more of a safety risk than the mirror becoming overly dark.

I've never driven a car without auto dimming mirrors in which I did not on occasion have to manually dim or turn the mirrors to avoid being blinded.

For full disclosure I am blond haired and blue eyed, so maybe my eyes are slightly more light sensitive than other people... but I kind of doubt it.
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Not sure why you're so anxious about this but, no having lived in rural areas, the burbs and cities, I've never been in a situation where another car's lights bothered me. I have driven plenty of cars with dimmed mirrors and that has always annoyed me as I look for fine details on cars to discern friend from foe (cops) from a great distance. .
If that is your reason I feel very sorry for you ,your IMO a sad state of mind.
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I would honestly say that you are in the minority on this one. I've been driving for a long time, in rural areas, the burbs and cities, and yes, if a truck pulls up behind me and the lights shine directly into my eyes by way of the mirrors it is a bit of a problem and, in my opinion, more of a safety risk than the mirror becoming overly dark.
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Dude, what's with the weird ad hominem? Sad state of mind? You make it sound like I just wrote that I prefer my boiled lion cub dipped in a hot mustard v a mirin sauce.

My wife has blue eyes and tells me the sun/lights bothers her. I don't doubt her. I don't doubt you see value in the device, so why make go pejorative because I do not to agree with your take on mirrors? If you go for sad state of mind on this, what happens with a real issue?

Maybe weird choice of wording on your part?
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Not eveyone is built the same way which is why, for example, there are some people who love the sport seats and some who find them uncomfortable. If someone says "Every time I ride in my car with sport seats my back hurts" a response of "I have been driving for 35 years and I have the sport seats and my back felt great after a non-stop drive from Washington to Dallas" adds little to the dialog.

The same holds true for eyesight and many other areas of our physical makeup. That fact that bright lights or dim mirrors bother (or don't bother) someone has no bearing on the way the same thing will effect someone else. The autodimming mirrors are a valuable feature for some and an annoyance to others and to still more they are valuable some of the time and annoying some of the time. BMW should have provided a mechanism so that the driver can decide when the mirrors should autodim and when they should not.

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Not eveyone is built the same way which is why there are some people who love the sport seats and some who find them uncomfortable. The same holds true for eyesight and many other areas of our physical makeup. That fact that bright lights or dim mirrors bother (or don't bother) someone has no bearing on the way the same thing will effect someone else.

The autodimming mirrors are a valuable feature for some and an annoyance to others and to still more they are valuable some of the time and annoying some of the time. BMW should have provided a mechanism so that the driver can decide when the mirrors should autodim and when they should not.

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Amen. Basically, make everything defeatable...
I'd rather not have the airbags, anti-lock brakes or power steering defeatable but yes, I agree that comfort features like dimming mirrors should be user selectable.

Hopefully BMW can do a code update on your car that permanently disables them.
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Dude, what's with the weird ad hominem? Sad state of mind? You make it sound like I just wrote that I prefer my boiled lion cub dipped in a hot mustard v a mirin sauce.

My wife has blue eyes and tells me the sun/lights bothers her. I don't doubt her. I don't doubt you see value in the device, so why make go pejorative because I do not to agree with your take on mirrors? If you go for sad state of mind on this, what happens with a real issue?

Maybe weird choice of wording on your part?
"Dude" thats not weird,read post #35,"discern friends from foe( cops)" now thats weird,Dude.
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"Dude" thats not weird,read post #35,"discern friends from foe( cops)" now thats weird,Dude.
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While I do not speed excessively (always within about 7 mph of the speed limit on the freeway -which is slow for San Diego), I do keep my eyes open for the cops. My car is red for god's sake!

Sorry, don't like anyone sneaking up on me... Guess that's odd to you? You peg it at the speed limit and never get black and white fever?
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While . Guess that's odd to you? You peg it at the speed limit and never get black and white fever?
All the time. Thats why I have mirrors, Speed limit Info. Speed warning set and radar detector and any thing else that I can find to put in my car. I never buy RED cars thats a magnet for cops and in a poll compiled in the UK it attracts birds to poop on your car. LOL
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I can think of absolutely no reason why BMW did not provide a defeat switch for the auto dimming feature.
The only rational reason is to save cost. BMW does not include a number of features one would expect, especially in a more expensive vehicle.
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The only rational reason is to save cost. BMW does not include a number of features one would expect, especially in a more expensive vehicle.
My wife's minivan has an auto-dimming mirror 'off' switch, and on occasion she'll reach up to adjust the mirror to her liking and accidentally hit that switch without realizing it and it causes blinding glare at night.

An on/off switch in a rearview mirror costs around $0.75 cents, so I'm guessing it's either safety related or the more obvious answer: The technology is so good that there isn't a need to defeat it.

Unlike rain-sensing windshield wipers or DTC where there are specific situations that turning it off is required, there really isn't such a situation with the rear view mirror.

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My wife's minivan has an auto-dimming mirror 'off' switch, and on occasion she'll reach up to adjust the mirror to her liking and accidentally hit that switch without realizing it and it causes blinding glare at night.

An on/off switch in a rearview mirror costs around $0.75 cents, so I'm guessing it's either safety related or the more obvious answer: The technology is so good that there isn't a need to defeat it.

Unlike rain-sensing windshield wipers or DTC where there are specific situations that turning it off is required, there really isn't such a situation with the rear view mirror.

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The technology is not so good that there is no need to defeat it. To some people, myself included, the technology is annoying at times and there are times that I want to override it.

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My wife's minivan has an auto-dimming mirror 'off' switch, and on occasion she'll reach up to adjust the mirror to her liking and accidentally hit that switch without realizing it and it causes blinding glare at night.

An on/off switch in a rearview mirror costs around $0.75 cents, so I'm guessing it's either safety related or the more obvious answer: The technology is so good that there isn't a need to defeat it.

Unlike rain-sensing windshield wipers or DTC where there are specific situations that turning it off is required, there really isn't such a situation with the rear view mirror.

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Not trying to be a jerk, and I've got no dog in this fight, but I think there are a few things on modern cars that have solved old mechanical necessities and eventually they get to the point where no dual-functionality is needed. Power windows work. No need to put handcranks in there as a backup anymore.

Certainly there will be people with compromised eyesight to whom a darker mirror reduces visibility. BMW offers the standard manual day/night mirror, no? It's what I had on my E90.

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