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The BMW 6 Series builds on BMW's sporty heritage with aggressive lines and an incredible motor to back the design up. Available in coupe and convertible trims with a standard 4.8 liter engine producing 360 horsepower and 360 lb-ft of torque, the 6-series is a popular choice that exceeds expectations.

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Old 10-05-2012, 04:16 PM
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Coding fun

I met a friend via the forum that does coding. I got the cables and software but getting it working is a bear. He came by this week and we used his computer to do some coding on both of my cars with great results. We made a bunch of changes.

The biggest issue for me was getting the angel eyes to be DRLs. We also programmed the flash to be the HIDs.

I had replaced the AE lights with LEDs but getting them to be the DRL gives it a FaceLift look. We also added windows up from key fob, dash lights always on, digital speed on dash and some stuff on the F10 also.

I still need to get brighter LEDs but this was a great upgrade for my 6.

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Sweet! Great job, I wish I had someone local to tap to get some things done.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:20 PM
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Did it take long....because Imma try to code my 2012 BMW 325i tommorow
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:21 PM
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Did it take long....because Imma try to code my 2012 BMW 325i tommorow
Once you know what you are dong it's a breeze but I'm still a newbie. I still don't have it running myself yet but my friend had it down fast.

The software for newer cars (2010+ I think) is called E-Sys and is MUCH easier than for older versions.
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Sweet! Great job, I wish I had someone local to tap to get some things done.
Mark,
PM me, I may have an idea.
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Thanks bro...can you make a video of how to add windows up from key fob, digital speed on dash or can you send the codes ??
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:45 PM
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Thanks bro...can you make a video of how to add windows up from key fob, digital speed on dash or can you send the codes ??
Do you know how to code and have the cables?
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I don't know how to code but I do have the cable
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:52 AM
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I don't know how to code but I do have the cable
Frankly it's a bear. For the newer cars you need E-Sys and for older cars like my '07 you need NCS Expert.

E-sys is easier but both are very dificult to configure on a computer. My friend got me going using my cables and his computer. I'm still fighting to get my computers working with either version.

I would start with some serious reading here. I can try to help but I am far from an expert yet.

Good luck and let me know if you get it working.
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I've set this up and it is pretty cool to set the blinkers to display in the Head Up Display as well. Roseng, What step in the process is giving you difficulty on your computer. It's nice that you have a friend that already has it setup. I have an 07' so I'm using NCSExpert.
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Nice. I have the setup working on my laptop running XP. I find that using XP is much better for the setup. Make sure you get INPA running first if your are using NCExpert. I'm planning on doing a few things like having the turn signals display in the HUD and the folding mirrors. I mostly have it though to diagnose issues when they do arise.
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I have a question ...what if I miss up a code?? Will it effect anything ....& I herd it takes out the cars warranty is that true ??
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I have NCS Expert set up along with INPA/DIS, etc. I've made changes to my e36, e39 & e63 & many other cars for friends & members of my local forum. It's actually quite easy once you go through the process a few times. I've even remotely logged in to another forum member's laptop to make a few changes for him. Obviously to do that the software & cables have to be in place.
As for coding bad info? Well if it is really bad the software goes into a fail safe mode & just writes the default build for that module if it detects bad code or blank code. You can cause issues with comms in the car if power dies in the laptop, but writ g a default code clears that up.
I would love to have AE as DRL but I think this option is only possible in LCI models. You should ask your friend to also program Welcome Lights.", you can choose which lights you want on when you unlock your car, this is Different from HomeLights (which can also be coded to work remotely with trunk release button on the key fob, see mine below). Welcome lights are only possible on LCI models too, Homelights work on both pre & post LCI cars.

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There's loads of other things to code on e63/e60 like:

- Digital Speedo
- Comfort Eject for Key (no need to press key in to remove it)
- Acoustic acknowledge on lock/unlock
- Heated seat function display in iDrive
- Enable Aux port in iDrive for retrofit
- Enable iPod retrofit
- Autofold mirrors (where fitted) controlled via remote fob
- Rain close the sunroof
- Roll up/down windows from remote fob (enabled as standard on European models)
Probably a few I have forgotten about.
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Can anybody make a video of how to code BMW 328i 2012 coupe because I don't want to mess anything up .....thank you
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I've set this up and it is pretty cool to set the blinkers to display in the Head Up Display as well. Roseng, What step in the process is giving you difficulty on your computer. It's nice that you have a friend that already has it setup. I have an 07' so I'm using NCSExpert.
I have 2 computers one XP and a Win7 set up. I was getting the same issue on both. I did a full reinstall and it seems I had a corrupted file somewhere. They are both working now.

I am still not comfortable with the read, change file, load routine. I found another program ace near me and we are getting together Friday. I think he may get me over the hump. One issue is that there are not many e63/64s out there and many of the guides are written for e60 so you have to dig a bit deeper.

I think i'm close To success, as the computer and car are talking nicely.

Also the guides are helpful but not written well. They need a lesson in DIY from Yorgi.

Once I get that working and I feel comfortable with NCSExpert, I will try to tackle the f10 programming.
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As for coding bad info? Well if it is really bad the software goes into a fail safe mode & just writes the default build for that module if it detects bad code or blank code. You can cause issues with comms in the car if power dies in the laptop, but writ g a default code clears that up.
This is the 1st I have heard of this? Be careful coding any module. There are just to many nightmares discussed about bricked modules, to believe this?

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I would love to have AE as DRL but I think this option is only possible in LCI models. You should ask your friend to also program Welcome Lights.", you can choose which lights you want on when you unlock your car, this is Different from HomeLights (which can also be coded to work remotely with trunk release button on the key fob, see mine below). Welcome lights are only possible on LCI models too, Homelights work on both pre & post

There's loads of other things to code on e63/e60 like:

- Digital Speedo
- Comfort Eject for Key (no need to press key in to remove it)
- Acoustic acknowledge on lock/unlock
- Heated seat function display in iDrive
- Enable Aux port in iDrive for retrofit
- Enable iPod retrofit
- Autofold mirrors (where fitted) controlled via remote fob
- Rain close the sunroof
- Roll up/down windows from remote fob (enabled as standard on European models)
Probably a few I have forgotten about.
Acually I have on 07 pre LCI and got the AEs working. Pm me and I'll send you the info on how to do it.
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This is the 1st I have heard of this? Be careful coding any module. There are just to many nightmares discussed about bricked modules, to believe this?

Be Careful!
+1

Everything I have read says that it is very possible to brick your car. I'm not sure if anyone has really done that but...

I made a number of changes already with a co-pilot, but I want to be sure I know what I am doing before I get started on my own.
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To be honest the bricked module stories are coming from people who were trying to update their software version with Progman or WinKFP. Coding is just changing parameters of a module to a limited set of options. If you try to change some to "active" instead of "aktiv" see what happens. It won't code as the value will not be accepted. If the laptop dies mid-coding then you can cause comms issues on the CAN bus but you can recover the situation by defaulting all parameters with NCS Expert, there is a procedure for this:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4726...2k?dn=y&dnad=y

Password: bmwcoding.com

Some say you default a module by writing a blank FSW_PSW.MAN file to the module to default it but this is wrong, what happens is a "fail safe" kicks in (that I referred to earlier) & the parameters of the module are set to default.
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Roseng Glad to hear you have the car and computer talking. That is pretty much one of the hardest parts, grin. Let us know how it goes once you try the updates. Once you do it a few times it is pretty easy. If you step away from it for a while it takes some refresher time. Make sure you have the car on a charger as well. You don't want the battery going dead on the laptop or the car.

I ended up using the blank FSW_PSW.MAN file to reset all my defaults, whether or not this is by design or as rebel stated activates a failsafe to default codes I don't know, but it did work to reset everything to defaults.

Here is a File I found in one of the forums online, can't remember which one ot give credit too though. This will be handy for understanidng the acronymns used for the Modules.

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Roseng Glad to hear you have the car and computer talking. That is pretty much one of the hardest parts, grin. Let us know how it goes once you try the updates. Once you do it a few times it is pretty easy. If you step away from it for a while it takes some refresher time. Make sure you have the car on a charger as well. You don't want the battery going dead on the laptop or the car.

I ended up using the blank FSW_PSW.MAN file to reset all my defaults, whether or not this is by design or as rebel stated activates a failsafe to default codes I don't know, but it did work to reset everything to defaults.

Here is a File I found in one of the forums online, can't remember which one ot give credit too though. This will be handy for understanidng the acronymns used for the Modules.

Have fun.
houbmw-cm,
Thanks for the PDF. I had already found this and many more documents from members that really helpful. Lots of good info but sorting through it is a challenge.

One document let us code the AEs as DRLs. From what I have seen, many of the expert coders did not know you could do this in pre-LCS cars. I found the instructions in a doc from one of the members. Really helpful, really cool.

I plan on a coding session this Friday and hopefully I will get the rest of the process sitting comfortably in my brain. Then I get to try E-SYS for my F10. Woo Hoo!
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A really useful tool to use along side NCS Expert for coding is NCS Dummy created by the use Revtorover on a rival forum, just google NCS Dummy Revtor & you'll find the thread. Revtor is regulary updating the tool adding more info & functionality.

What is NCS Dummy? What does it do?

- First off it acts as a translator
It gives the english translation of each parameter in a module.

- It identifies all the possible settings for each parameter, so no guessing needed
e.g. aktiv/nicht_aktiv, wert_01/wert_02, etc. The options for each parameter are not intuitive as it first seems in some cases, aktiv is not the only opposite of nivht_aktiv, panikalarm is an alternate option in one particular parameter

- You can use it to generate .MAN files for modifying parameters. It has an function with check boxes that you can tick to select desired options rather than spell it incorrectly.

You don't connect to the car with it, it is purely a post-processing tool. You can take FSW_PSW.TRC file that you have read from a module in your car using NCS Expert & run it through NCS Dummy to see what parameters & options are available for that module.

Even without any reading from a car you can see Module Function listings for any module. I have attached to outputs for two E60 light control moules:
- E60-LM_E60.C0E (C0E is the software version, LM2 is light control module 1)
- E60-LM2_E6X.C32 (C32 is the software version, LM2 is light control module 2)

The thread on the tool gives more info than above but I hope it at least gives some idea of the benefit of the tool.

AE as DRL


If you notice in the LM & LM2 files there is an option to have the AE as DRLs in LM2 but not in LM. From LM2, here's the DRL options:

LM2 Extract

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VERHALTEN_DRL_TFL ANGEL EYES AS DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS
drl_tfl_off daytime running lights (drl) disabled
drl_s
drl_h
drl_l
tfl_s
DRL_TFL_BLK_V_GED
nicht_aktiv not active
aktiv active
DRL_TFL_SML DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS (DRL) - ANGEL EYES
nicht_aktiv not active
aktiv active
DRL_TFL_KZL DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS (DRL) - LICENSE PLATE LIGHTS
nicht_aktiv not active
aktiv active
DRL_TFL_RL_BL_2 DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS (DRL) - TAIL LIGHTS 2
nicht_aktiv not active
aktiv active
DRL_TFL_RL_BL_1 DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS (DRL) - TAIL LIGHTS 1
nicht_aktiv not active
aktiv active
DRL_TFL_RL_BL DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS (DRL) - TAIL LIGHTS
nicht_aktiv not active
aktiv active

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DRL_V_GEDIMMT DIMMED FRONT DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS
nicht_aktiv not active
wert_01 value 01
wert_02 value 02
DRL_WERT_DIMMUNG DIMMING VALUE DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS
wert_01 value 01
wert_02 value 02
Maybe I got confused thinking that only LCI cars could have AE as DRLs, in fact it is only cars with LM2 (light control module version 2) that can have AE as DRL. Earlier cars have LM (LM v1). I'll check mine later today to see (it's a 2006 630i with a build date in 2005 ( MY 09/2005). I'll post my results here.
I hope people find the info on NCS Dummy above useful & intresting. I think NCS Dummy is a must if you're planning on making the most of your coding abilities!
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File Type: pdf E60-LM2_E6X-C32.pdf (53.7 KB, 211 views)

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Rebel.Ranter, Yeah NCS Dummy is pretty easy to use to generate the update files. I brought it up a few times to check it out. I had already done all my updates by then though so I did not get to actually apply anything from NCS Dummy. I lost all my updates when they updated my software, so maybe I will use that this weekend to make the changes and add some others. Does anyone know if there is an option to display voltage, like the Digital speed option. I have not looked through all the modules yet to see. That would be a good feature for monitoring some of the electrical oddities with these cars.
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