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Old 10-12-2012, 12:24 PM
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MIke, how confident are you about follow up BMW diesel models for US?

on your x5 diesel.
BMW has already confirmed two new diesel engines for the US market.



From BMWNA meeting last month

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...ght=bmw+diesel

Looks like BMW is waiting for the F10 LCI before bringing the 535d here
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:29 PM
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BMW has already confirmed two new diesel engines for the US market.

Looks like BMW is waiting for the F10 LCI before bringing the 535d here
Displacements?

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Old 10-12-2012, 12:32 PM
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Displacements?

- Mike
http://wot.motortrend.com/bmw-brings...et-232013.html

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/13/p...w-u-s-dealers/ (didn't you post this?)

Of course, no idea if this is real. You could probably dig up more info then I could

That being said, I'm in for a 320d MSport in Estoril Blue if it does come.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:40 PM
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http://wot.motortrend.com/bmw-brings...et-232013.html

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/13/p...w-u-s-dealers/ (didn't you post this?)

Of course, no idea if this is real. You could probably dig up more info then I could

That being said, I'm in for a 320d MSport in Estoril Blue if it does come.
My point is that the 3.0-liter turbo diesel likely won't make it under the hood of the 3 Series (as of today, it won't).

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Old 10-12-2012, 12:53 PM
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:23 PM
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BMW has already confirmed two new diesel engines for the US market.



From BMWNA meeting last month

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...ght=bmw+diesel

Looks like BMW is waiting for the F10 LCI before bringing the 535d here
This is fantastic news I hadn't seen yet. Thanks for sharing it.

Previous comments by BMWUSA folks were that the 2L will be introduced first, and that both 4 and 6 cyl diesels would be over here sometime in 2013. Coupling that with the photo shown above, I would guess that we see the F30 320d followed by the F31 330d, F10 530d, and X5 xdrive30d next year. I'm looking forward to that!
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:22 PM
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Hey all!

Just picked up my very first BMW as well as my very first diesel today. 2011 335d w/ sport package and 44k on the odometer.

Unfortunately while driving HOME FROM THE DEALERSHIP I get an ses with the warning 'engine malfunction, reduced power'. After dinner I start the car back up and its gone. I take it for a drive and then get the particulate filter warning. THEN the engine malfunction warning comes back on and hasn't gone away.

I have searched the forum pretty thoroughly and have found posts with one problem or the other but not both at the same time. Thankfully its still under warranty but dang, what a bummer!

Any ideas as to what the dealership might say?
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Old 08-09-2014, 10:15 PM
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You have my sympathy. Been kinda there many times - different details but the same problem. Once you get it all sorted out it'll be a blast to drive.


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Old 08-10-2014, 06:46 AM
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Hey all!

Just picked up my very first BMW as well as my very first diesel today. 2011 335d w/ sport package and 44k on the odometer.

Unfortunately while driving HOME FROM THE DEALERSHIP I get an ses with the warning 'engine malfunction, reduced power'. After dinner I start the car back up and its gone. I take it for a drive and then get the particulate filter warning. THEN the engine malfunction warning comes back on and hasn't gone away.

I have searched the forum pretty thoroughly and have found posts with one problem or the other but not both at the same time. Thankfully its still under warranty but dang, what a bummer!

Any ideas as to what the dealership might say?
Viking,

Definitely not a good start but perhaps you can still salvage something from this deal:

1. Did you buy it from a BMW Dealer, CPO? If so they did not do a very professional job of "checking out" the vehicle. Definitely return it ASAP and lodge a firm complaint with them and demand they do a full inspection as well as verification that the car does not have Carbon Build Up. If they aren't willing to do this, force them to take the car back, period.

2. If you bought it from a non-BMW dealer, they probably won't know what is technically wrong so ask for your money back or require they send the vehicle to a BMW dealer to have it checked out and inspect for CBU. Again, if you cant get them to do that get your money back.

3. In either case you need to get an extended warranty if you plan to keep the car. You don't want to get stuck with someone elses problem a year from now.

4. If all they do is clear the code and say it's all good, BS! Don't accept that.

Good luck and I hope something positive comes out of this. Buying a second hand 335D can be a gamble unless you know the CBU has been addressed. More than likely that is why the original owner decided to dump the car.
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:57 AM
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I had a friend get it for me at auction. The carfax was super clean and I even called the previous BMW dealership who serviced the vehicle to ask them about it.

Definitely getting it into the BMW dealership tomorrow. Is it possible that since it sat parked in a lot somewhere for a couple months that the fuel went bad? Also, I've read about people clearing the particulate filter themselves by driving kind of aggressively for a while. Think that's worth a shot?

Lastly, are these two warnings related?


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Old 08-10-2014, 01:59 PM
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Update: took it to autozone to see what codes pulled up...I got five of them.

P02CB
P02D7
P14A7
P02D3
P02CE

Turbos, injectors, emissions, and dpf

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Old 08-10-2014, 02:43 PM
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It's awfully suspicious that the codes all happened right after auction. Was your friend allowed to fire it up before making a bid? Are you sure the SES light wasn't on all the time? I agree with previous posts - this car was likely dumped. I was told explicitly by a very close BMW service advisor that BMW is not allowed to report vehicle histories to interested buyers - sellers can get the records and reveal them but BMW cannot do that on behalf of a buyer without seller's permission. I know because I too bought a 335d from a dealer who picked it up at auction and I asked him to check it out for me before buying it only to be told "ahhh, we can't really do that". So either my SA was a newbie, BMW has changed it's policies in the past year, or you were told 'it's nothing to worry about' when in fact there was no data upon which to base that claim.

Low mileage BMW's land at auction for three principle reasons: (1) the car was in an accident; (2) the car was leased and the lessor doesn't want to try to sell it; (3) it was traded to a non-BMW dealer. When I wanted to get rid of my mis-behaving 335d I took it to the dealer, had all codes fixed/resolved, and asked them to make me an offer, which they did (interesting sidebard - I got $4k more from the dealer than I was offered by CarMax). But they kept it. Conversely I was told when discussing the possibility of trading it to Subaru that it would definitely be auctioned and that I would be wise to try BMW, since many dealers BUY them at auction, CPO them, and then sell them marked up accordingly.

But this is all academic. You bought it at auction and so you have little recourse to get your bucks back. You have zero choice but to take it to the dealer and let them sort it out. Be glad you've still got it all under warranty because none of those codes sound cheap to resolve. One thing you might do to ease your mind though. I was told that a long-term or serious fault will be remembered by the car even if the SES light gets reset and the code clears. You might ask your SA if he/she can tell how long the codes have been on. I also think now that you own the car you are entitled to a complete lifetime maintenance report from BMW, so you should ask for that as well. If they balk, tell them that you at least want the records for the faults in question - have they been repaired previously, etc. It won't fix your current problems but it'll help you provide information here and elsewhere of the sort that may find you others who have dealt with the same problems. There are some really smart folks here and the more bread crumbs you can feed them, the more likely they are to be able to offer good advice.


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Old 08-10-2014, 02:45 PM
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Update: took it to autozone to see what codes pulled up...I got five of them.

P02CB
P02D7
P14A7
P02D3
P02CE

Turbos, injectors, emissions, and dpf

Yay!!!!


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Step 1: Set up a service appointment with the BMW dealer for warranty work.
Step 2: Educate yourself on CBU and its causes and solutions
Step 3: Use the money you saved buying it at auction to purchase an extended warranty.
Step 4: Enjoy the brute-force torque of your new ride. :-)

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Old 08-10-2014, 03:46 PM
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Would not the 4 year/50k warranty still be in effect? Does change in ownership void that? I'm assuming it was always serviced by BMW in the first place so perhaps there is still some responsibility with them?

Too many unknowns. Rolling the dice at auction.

The only remedy is dump it or pay the piper (i.e. BMW repair shop). There could be multiple issues least of which is CBU. Who knows.

Assuming he got a steal, and the cars appearance is very good, I'd go for a full repair to get it back in order and get an extended warranty. Then enjoy the ride. After all, it is still low miles.

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Old 08-10-2014, 05:56 PM
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Before I purchased mine, I took the car, during my test drive, to the closest BMW dealership. They charged me $180 or so for a pre-buy inspection. As a part of this inspection, they provided me with the complete service history of the vehicle.

As for what course you should follow, it is still under factory warranty; so, take it to the dealer and enjoy putting miles on someone else's new car for the month or two it will take to fix yours.
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Old 08-10-2014, 07:42 PM
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Yep. Viking dude got scammed at the auction. Original owner reset the faults and dumped the car.

If your "in service date" is past, then you're in deep trouble. It's 4 years or 50 K, whichever you hit first and your warranty is done.

Good luck.

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Old 08-10-2014, 08:17 PM
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Would not the 4 year/50k warranty still be in effect? Does change in ownership void that? I'm assuming it was always serviced by BMW in the first place so perhaps there is still some responsibility with them?

Too many unknowns. Rolling the dice at auction.

The only remedy is dump it or pay the piper (i.e. BMW repair shop). There could be multiple issues least of which is CBU. Who knows.

Assuming he got a steal, and the cars appearance is very good, I'd go for a full repair to get it back in order and get an extended warranty. Then enjoy the ride. After all, it is still low miles.

Caveat Emptor!
I am virtually certain that BMW honors the 4yr/50k for as many owners as own it. I bought my second 335d with 17k miles on it from an independent who got it at auction and I had plenty of work done under warranty at my local dealership. Moreover I did ask my SA if the warranty would be voided upon re-sale and he said absoutely not. Viking dude will get a fix unless the car has been modified.

Viking dude if you are still with us you had better make sure there is no JBD chip under the hood. If the dumper had one and left it on and the dealer sees it they might not be so cool about taking care of everything under warranty or, if they do, it will make for a mighty uncomfortable conversation. "What's a JBD chip" you ask? Search the forum - there are photos hereabouts of what you ought to look for. Basically a tuning chip that does not wipe the ECU but changes various fuel and air parameters to get even more power.


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Old 08-11-2014, 09:17 AM
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Yah, Im still with you. Im familiar with the chip for sure as I was planning on getting one after the factory warranty ran out. I looked under the hood and didn't find anything so I think Im safe. Definitely thinking the extended warranty is going to be worth its weight in gold if I buy it.

Also considering a DPF delete after warrant expires. That should alleviate a lot of the common issues people have with this car, right??

BTW, thanks for all the input and advice. Im stoked to own this car and be a part of this community.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:38 AM
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Also considering a DPF delete after warrant expires. That should alleviate a lot of the common issues people have with this car, right??


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DPF hasn't been an issue. It's that some cars experience excessive soot buildup within the cylinder head and intake.
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Old 08-11-2014, 11:23 AM
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Yah, Im still with you. Im familiar with the chip for sure as I was planning on getting one after the factory warranty ran out. I looked under the hood and didn't find anything so I think Im safe. Definitely thinking the extended warranty is going to be worth its weight in gold if I buy it.

Also considering a DPF delete after warrant expires. That should alleviate a lot of the common issues people have with this car, right??

BTW, thanks for all the input and advice. Im stoked to own this car and be a part of this community.
When is your warranty up?
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Old 08-11-2014, 11:26 AM
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I've still got 6k left before I hit 50k. I've got an appt with a SA tomorrow at 8am.

Here's to hoping for the best.


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Old 08-11-2014, 11:33 AM
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I've still got 6k left before I hit 50k. I've got an appt with a SA tomorrow at 8am.

Here's to hoping for the best.


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What is your in service date for the car?

If your "in service date" is anything before the date you bought the car, then your warranty is already up.

eg. If in service date is June 30th 2010, then your warranty is already up.

It's 4 years or 50,000 miles. Whichever comes first.

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What is your in service date for the car?

If your "in service date" is anything before the date you bought the car, then your warranty is already up.

eg. If in service date is June 30th 2010, then your warranty is already up.

It's 4 years or 50,000 miles. Whichever comes first.
How do i go about determining the in service date of my car?
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Old 08-11-2014, 11:41 AM
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How do i go about determining the in service date of my car?
It should be listed on your buying papers. If not, call your SA and get them to run your VIN. They'll be able to tell you.
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