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The new chapter in the highly successful story of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) and wagon (F11) |
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Interesting to see how well RR is received on here. I am glad to hear some honest assessments and feedback. It sounds like Range Rovers are no worse than some BMWs (such as mine that has spent over a month in the shop this year).
I love my BMW but both my wife and I have sedans and a 85 lbs lab - so I think an SUV will be in the future.
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But wait till the next aluminum version comes out. They shaved 900lbs of the big RR. I they can shave 500lbs of the sport, it is going to be amazing.
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SUVs cannot match sedans for handling. They are nice cars for soccer moms.
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you can see the new RR on the land rover website
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Is that a Chris Bangle tribute I see in the shape of the headlights and the rear lights? Some pretty obvious "flame surface" extensions going on. Looks like the E60 re-incarnated as an SUV. That's what you get for being a bad boy.
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The upcoming RR Sport shouldn't much more than a 100lbs heavier than a 550xi. That's kind of sad.
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I think the 550 xi weigh about the same as a base Cayenne. The Cayenne is 4475 lbs.
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I ended up buying a 2013 M5 after all which I was looking at a range rover sport sc or a BMW 550i
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Welcome to the club!
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Hi,
I've never posted on the forum before, but noticed this thread a chuckled a little. Although the comparison is a little odd, it's one that I've made for myself in the last 6 months. I can offer a little bit of perspective having owned a 2012 RR SC and now a 2013 550ix. As prelude to what I'm about to say, I've owned the RR SC since new and held onto it for only 2 months before throwing in the towel. Both cars are dramatically different in the way they feel and the way they drive. The RR SC was beautiful to see, looked great in the front row of the valet, and drove as comfortably as any SUV I've ever own. It turned well, stopped well, accelerated well. Compared to the 2013 Cayenne S, it was more comfortable, more luxurious, faster in the straights, but lacked steering feel compared to the Cayenne. The RR looks like a 70k+ car. The Cayenne S doesn't seem to look as 'special.' I also felt the RR was much more car than the X5, with the exception of the X5M. The RR was a great car except that it SQUEAKED incessantly. The tech was patient and resolving some of the squeaks and rattles, but could not resolve all of the them. I finally gave up. The car was brand new and sounded like it had 60k miles on it. A friend has a 2010 RR SC and the squeaks were worse. This was not a good sign since the problems will only get worse in time. The 550 is a much different car. It's much quicker than the RR SC. It handles better. It's also can't offer the 'cool' factor. Baller's don't drive 550's. It's more adaptable to upgrades. It has fit and finish many levels above the RR. It offers a more satisfying commute for me. There is much talk about the current gen 5 series not offering the BMW feel, the connection to the road. I would tend to agree. But those issues are easy to resolve if you are willing to do some mods. Even in stock form, my 550 with the M sport and DDC feels better than any comparable sedan in the class. The choice in cars is very personal. If you decide to go for the RR, my advice is that you scrutinize the car that you are considering. Make sure that every panel, dial, switch, etc is perfect. Make sure the mechanicals are noise free, and the car drives like a vault. As others have said, get rid of it before the warranty ends. The tell-tale is that most extended warranty companies won't offer a policy for RR. I'm not advising you get an extended warranty. Rather, it might be wise to acknowledge what that implies. Good luck on your decision. I'm sure you will love whatever vehicle you choose. -Charlie 2013 550ix M Sport and other goodies |
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I've been in the 2014 RR at an event. It was GORGEOUS inside and out. Very luxurious, and I'm sure it will still maintain its off-road prowess. But RR is not known for its reliability, so that is a lot of risk to take, especially the first year. But congrats on the M5!
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It is clear a new RR will not deliver the same quality experience you will get from a new BMW.
So when buying a RR maybe it should have at least 50k miles and 3 years? So that all the little poblems are there and the acquired patina gives the car just that feeling, you do only take it in for service as it is in a nondrivable status. |
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