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Old 10-23-2012, 09:02 AM
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Those blasted Goodyears...

As an owner of a 2011 535xi MSport, I'm unfortunately well versed in the perils of the 19" Goodyear A/S tires that BMW has elected to use as the only OEM choice for several models. In a year of 5er ownership, I have replaced three tires and one rim due to bubbles in the tires (and a bent rim for good measure). Thankfully, since I'd been following the boards before taking delivery of our 5er, I purchased the wheel/tire package for the first time. It has, obviously, more than paid for itself.

I was nervous about the same tires being on my 650xi Coupe (non-MSport), but haven't had an issue. Until yesterday. While driving my wife to an oral surgery appointment, I hit a decent sized pothole on the off-ramp. In other circumstances, I probably wouldn't have thought twice about it, but given what I know about these Goodyears, I was immediately concerned. Thankfully, we were almost at the doctor's office, so I decided to wait to check my tire until we were parked there. Not only had my (front driver side) tire already bubbled, but there was a 3-4 inch separation in the sidewall.

I was fortunate in many ways... it didn't cause an accident, I was able to make it to my destination, the dealership came and got the car (and left a loaner for me) while we were at my wife's appointment, they had a replacement tire in stock, and the rim wasn't bent. I was back up and running by the end of the day.

But MY GOD, those blasted Goodyears...
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:38 AM
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Really glad to hear that your experience ended so well. I feel like I owe it to luck and good fortune that I didn't have any problems whatsoever with the 19" GY run flats in the 1 1/2 years I owned my 750ix. Based on all I've heard and read about BMWs and these tires I feel as if my experience was the exception to the rule. So, are you thinking at all about swapping-out those tires? If so, for whatever it may be worth, I ran Michelin Pilot SSs on my M6 and never experienced a problem or a flat.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:43 AM
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Really glad to hear that your experience ended so well. I feel like I owe it to luck and good fortune that I didn't have any problems whatsoever with the 19" GY run flats in the 1 1/2 years I owned my 750ix. Based on all I've heard and read about BMWs and these tires I feel as if my experience was the exception to the rule. So, are you thinking at all about swapping-out those tires? If so, for whatever it may be worth, I ran Michelin Pilot SSs on my M6 and never experienced a problem or a flat.
I don't know what I'm going to do. If the roads are this bad now, I can only imagine what they'll be like once we have the salt and slush of winter. Still, I hate swapping tires seasonally and there's not another A/S option, to my knowledge.

I'll probably trade my wife's 5er after the holidays, so I won't do anything there. She wants back in an SUV, so we should be rid of the Goodyear problem on that vehicle.

Unless something has changed, though, the Goodyears will be on my new GC.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:53 AM
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Has nothing to do with Goodyear. The Dunlop 20" RFTs on my 650i did the exact same thing.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...994&highlight=

This is the inherent problem with big wheels, big tires, and the super stiff construction required of a run-flat.

There is a 1 year warranty (straight from Dunlop) on the RFT's. Mine was replaced.

At the one year mark, I am moving to Pilot Super Sports. I'll enjoy those, then put on the RFT's before my lease end.

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Old 10-23-2012, 10:07 AM
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Unless something has changed, though, the Goodyears will be on my new GC.
I don't know this for sure about the xdrive, but I am pretty sure the non xdrive all season tires on the GC are Michelin Primacy HP.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:59 AM
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I don't know what I'm going to do. If the roads are this bad now, I can only imagine what they'll be like once we have the salt and slush of winter. Still, I hate swapping tires seasonally and there's not another A/S option, to my knowledge.

I'll probably trade my wife's 5er after the holidays, so I won't do anything there. She wants back in an SUV, so we should be rid of the Goodyear problem on that vehicle.

Unless something has changed, though, the Goodyears will be on my new GC.
You make a great point about hating to swap tires seasonally. Fortunately, I've never had to do that because we have an SUV that just sits there until winter arrives and, even then, it's only used in snow and slush conditions. I could have gone with 20" wheels and tires for the Panamera, but it was because I had had such a good experience with the 19s" on my 750ix that I opted for the 19s" with AS Continentals...in theory, I shouldn't have to do anything with those tires other than replace them when the treads wear down (I have the hazard insurance). By the way, the Continentals are non- run flat and the Pana does not come equipped with a spare...hopefully, I won't ever have cause for concern in this regard.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:30 AM
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Has nothing to do with Goodyear. The Dunlop 20" RFTs on my 650i did the exact same thing.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...994&highlight=

This is the inherent problem with big wheels, big tires, and the super stiff construction required of a run-flat.

There is a 1 year warranty (straight from Dunlop) on the RFT's. Mine was replaced.

At the one year mark, I am moving to Pilot Super Sports. I'll enjoy those, then put on the RFT's before my lease end.
I've never had a problem with any of my 19s or 20s until the Goodyears on the 5er. Maybe it's not a problem limited to that specific tire, but if you spend much time on the 5er board, you see a litany of complaints about the Goodyears specifically.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=518954
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I don't know this for sure about the xdrive, but I am pretty sure the non xdrive all season tires on the GC are Michelin Primacy HP.
Are they staggered on the non-xDrive?
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You make a great point about hating to swap tires seasonally. Fortunately, I've never had to do that because we have an SUV that just sits there until winter arrives and, even then, it's only used in snow and slush conditions. I could have gone with 20" wheels and tires for the Panamera, but it was because I had had such a good experience with the 19s" on my 750ix that I opted for the 19s" with AS Continentals...in theory, I shouldn't have to do anything with those tires other than replace them when the treads wear down (I have the hazard insurance). By the way, the Continentals are non- run flat and the Pana does not come equipped with a spare...hopefully, I won't ever have cause for concern in this regard.
I've done the seasonal swap on prior vehicles and it's just annoying (and costly). I was excited to get A/S tires and xDrive in a wheel that still looks great (in my opinion). Shame about the tire selection, though.

I think my wife is going back to an X6, so we'll resume the seasonal swap with that vehicle.
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Are they staggered on the non-xDrive?
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No they are not. 245/40/19 all the way around.
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Not only am I worried about the wheels and tires but I hit a pothole the other day that jarred my jaw, not to mention caused another tire bubble. That shock to the car can't be good for any of the other car components. I recently started noticing a rattle in the driver side door panel that annoys the crap out of me when I run over small bumps in the road.
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No they are not. 245/40/19 all the way around.
Interesting. And they're all-seasons? That might be good news...
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Not only am I worried about the wheels and tires but I hit a pothole the other day that jarred my jaw, not to mention caused another tire bubble. That shock to the car can't be good for any of the other car components. I recently started noticing a rattle in the driver side door panel that annoys the crap out of me when I run over small bumps in the road.
Yeah, and just imagine what the roads are going to be like this winter.
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At the one year mark, I am moving to Pilot Super Sports. I'll enjoy those, then put on the RFT's before my lease end.
I have PSSs on my car now and hate them. The handling is so, we'll, squishy is the best word I can think of.

I am actually thinking of going back and taking the loss.
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I just hit 20k and I'm not going to get the Pilot's even though they are less expensive, the OEM's handle well and I'm not willing to experiment.
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I had Dunlops RFTs on my E60 535i and now I have the Dunlops 20" RFTs on my 650i and haven't had any issues.
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