Diesel Refueling, Please help.

I have manualy tried the big truck nozzels and they will not fit at all.

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Cars sputter and drivers fume: Marysville gas station sells diesel for unleaded
Posted by Mike Carter on April 18, 2012 at 8:58 PM

A Marysville Chevron station was dispensing diesel fuel out of its unleaded gas pumps for 18 hours on Sunday, crippling the cars of at least 18 drivers, KING5 television reports.

One was Calial Lyon, who’s driving her dad’s Subaru because she “gassed” up her Toyota at the Chevron Sunday on her way to a basketball tournament. Her car’s in the shop.

“As soon as I started my car it was like the gas pedal didn’t really register,” she said. Lyon quickly realized she wasn’t going anywhere.

“It just kind of started smoking and it wasn’t working at all,” she recalled.

Lyon said the costs of the repairs, which include flushing the fuel system and the gas tank, are being picked up by Harris Transport, the company that services the Marysville Chevron.

Originally Posted by AutoUnion

OP, theoretically, you should never be using the adapter because it makes a mess and there are enough "car" pumps out there. In my 2 years of diesel cars and driving all around the Northeast, I've never run into a station where the pump wouldn't fit. BMW does take it one step further by preventing the wrong size from fitting. If it doesn't fit, move on. Don't use the adapter

Auto union where do you fill up? I use the shell in newton (on Watertown st right near pike exit 16) and never works. Works fine with my bluetec!

Originally Posted by Kar Don

Auto union where do you fill up? I use the shell in newton (on Watertown st right near pike exit 16) and never works. Works fine with my bluetec!

Hess: 219 Cambridge St & N Harvard St in Allston
Shell: 1241 Boylston St & Ipswich St
Stadium Gas: 280 Western Ave, Allston, MA 02134

Usually stick to the Hess in Allston because I live very close by. I like to stick to brand names. If I'm not there, then anywhere on Route 1 through Revere, Saugus, Peabody, etc.

Honestly, I've never been stuck at a station where the nozzle doesn't fit.

Originally Posted by Kar Don

Auto union where do you fill up? I use the shell in newton (on Watertown st right near pike exit 16) and never works. Works fine with my bluetec!

I use that one all the time and never had problem. I also use the gulf in Waltham on main street and gulf on 95S or 95N

Originally Posted by CrazyINP

I use that one all the time and never had problem. I also use the gulf in Waltham on main street and gulf on 95S or 95N

Really??? I literally was trying for over 5 min and could not get the nozzle into the filler neck. The guy inside the station ran out thinking i was trying to put diesel into a gasoline car. haha. Maybe mine is defective?

Any updates? Anyone able to remove that stupid restrictor?

I started using Shell DIESEL and for the first week the car has been running fine made my hand calculation an increase of 2 mpg with mix city and HEAVY hwy driving!! Remember I do aproximately 90-95% city driving that is why I get low mileage anywhere from 21-25 now!!

I live on the PA/NJ border and fuel in NJ where it's generally cheaper. That said, NJ only has full serve. My first full tank, I got fuel at a newly built exxon station. NO problem. The my second tank, I went to the same station and the guy that was there that night must've been new at it or something cause he couldn't get the nozzle in and spewed diesel all over the side of my d and the wheel. The he proceeded to tell me it was full! Well, I most certainly knew it wasn't so I got out and did it myself while he tended to someone else. I had to wiggle it around a bit and even flipped the nozzle vertical (saw another gas attendant do that to my mustang) which man it slid right in when i did that. But it went in all the way! I looked over and got the guy's attention and told him to make sure it's IN the hole next time he tries filling it up. Needless to say, I was just a tad . No problems the next time there.

Same as someone else mentioned at this station.. truck nozzle on one side, car diesel nozzle on the other side. - Green handle for both.

This adapter everyone keeps talking about.. I don't think I have one. My d is a cpo and there's a tool missing in the "trunk" the one in the middle. Is that where the funnel/adapter is supposed to be?

One of these days I should try this "vertical" trick. I have seen it mentioned on here off/on for a couple of years now but never tried it. Every nozzle I have used on this car has only gone in maybe 2" and always looks strange with the bulk of it hanging outside the car while pumping. But so long as I have a pump that is working correctly and ever since I quit going to Shell stations I do not recall getting a single massive pump spillage.

I am going to try the 180 degree twist trick next time.

Originally Posted by kungpao

I live on the PA/NJ border and fuel in NJ where it's generally cheaper. That said, NJ only has full serve. My first full tank, I got fuel at a newly built exxon station. NO problem. The my second tank, I went to the same station and the guy that was there that night must've been new at it or something cause he couldn't get the nozzle in and spewed diesel all over the side of my d and the wheel. The he proceeded to tell me it was full! Well, I most certainly knew it wasn't so I got out and did it myself while he tended to someone else. I had to wiggle it around a bit and even flipped the nozzle vertical (saw another gas attendant do that to my mustang) which man it slid right in when i did that. But it went in all the way! I looked over and got the guy's attention and told him to make sure it's IN the hole next time he tries filling it up. Needless to say, I was just a tad . No problems the next time there.

Same as someone else mentioned at this station.. truck nozzle on one side, car diesel nozzle on the other side. - Green handle for both.

This adapter everyone keeps talking about.. I don't think I have one. My d is a cpo and there's a tool missing in the "trunk" the one in the middle. Is that where the funnel/adapter is supposed to be?

Every diesel should have the adapter. It is about 6" long and comes in a clear container with a screw top and a nitirle glove. The adapter WILL cause overflow so you have to be mindful of how much your dispensing. In addition you should dispense at less than full rate since he truck nozzle is pushing more volume due to being larger.

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Originally Posted by kungpao

I live on the PA/NJ border and fuel in NJ where it's generally cheaper. That said, NJ only has full serve.

I seem to recall that rule only applies to gasoline since it is more risky to handle. You should be able to pump your own diesel in NJ, though you might encounter some resistance if the attendant doesn't know you have a diesel motor.

This adapter everyone keeps talking about.. I don't think I have one. My d is a cpo and there's a tool missing in the "trunk" the one in the middle. Is that where the funnel/adapter is supposed to be?

I never got my adapter either, but never have needed it over the course of several years. The empty slot is for a much smaller tool (stuff like an emergency sunroof opener, etc.). BMWs come to the USA missing several of those little tools, due to cost-cutting. There are a couple threads in the main E90 forum which tell you how to order those parts, if you are interested in having a complete set.

Originally Posted by János

I seem to recall that rule only applies to gasoline since it is more risky to handle. You should be able to pump your own diesel in NJ, though you might encounter some resistance if the attendant doesn't know you have a diesel motor.

Yes, the look on the gentleman's face was priceless. He was flagging me towards an empty pump and I was cruising around looking for the green pump. Never had a problem with them filling me except for that one time. Now he gets a big grin on his face and says diesel when I pull up. (doesn't appear to speak much English not that it matters) Generally they don't freak out if you get out and pump though. I've on many occasion "helped out" when they were slammed with customers (or finished the transaction myself in that scenario too) I work an hour into NJ and have an 80 mile daily commute so it's no biggie for me to stop by a station in NJ on the way home.

Originally Posted by János

I never got my adapter either, but never have needed it over the course of several years. The empty slot is for a much smaller tool (stuff like an emergency sunroof opener, etc.). BMWs come to the USA missing several of those little tools, due to cost-cutting. There are a couple threads in the main E90 forum which tell you how to order those parts, if you are interested in having a complete set.

I don't suspect I'll need it but it would be nice to know what's in the missing spaces. I'll have to dig around for that thread you mentioned.

figured I'd attach a pic. Item "A" shows holes in the trunk lid, Item "B" is the missing tool space.

Originally Posted by kungpao

I don't suspect I'll need it but it would be nice to know what's in the missing spaces. I'll have to dig around for that thread you mentioned.

figured I'd attach a pic. Item "A" shows holes in the trunk lid, Item "B" is the missing tool space.

I believe "B" is for the "key" for the wheel locks, if you have them.

This is the most all nozzles go into my car. Basically the spring stops it from going in. Always happens this way. Tried the vertical trick today but no change. Pump functions fine with the car though so never worried about it.

Could someone link the thread for the missing tools? I'm missing mostly everything, except the tow hook.

Originally Posted by Snipe656

This is the most all nozzles go into my car. Basically the spring stops it from going in. Always happens this way. Tried the vertical trick today but no change. Pump functions fine with the car though so never worried about it.

That's about right. The curvature of the nozzle prevent its from going further.

Originally Posted by mflambert

Could someone link the thread for the missing tools? I'm missing mostly everything, except the tow hook.

Screwdriver and tow hook.

Isn't there a puller for the DEF and tow hook plugs? Or is that what the screw driver is supposed to be for?

Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl

That's about right. The curvature of the nozzle prevent its from going further.

Really seems like it is the spring hitting something. Regardless it is strange to me since never had another car do this.

http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/16_1..._157/ES257878/ - Bypass adapter.

Originally Posted by Kar Don

I am going to try the 180 degree twist trick next time.

I'm late to the party. Yes, that works for me. The reason is some nozzles are not perfectly round and are bended at certain angle. I always try first to wiggle vertically ( up & down ). If it doesn't work then twisting 180 degrees usually solves the problem.

Originally Posted by Snipe656

This is the most all nozzles go into my car. Basically the spring stops it from going in. Always happens this way. Tried the vertical trick today but no change. Pump functions fine with the car though so never worried about it.

Aaron, I believe that's a TX thing to surround the nozzle with spring. I hate that crap too ! I have yet to find a nozzle that will insert all the way into fuel tank like its petrol counterparts.

I see the springy thing here in Fla as well. Maybe it's a southern thing?

I can only get the nozzle in about 2 inches. I haven't had a fuel spill in ages. Just takes practice.