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Old 11-13-2012, 07:15 AM
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0.00125-0.00049=0.00076

saw in the other thread you said the current rate was 0.00125. shouldn't the rate after msd be 0.00076 not 0.00106?
Euro Delivery adds .0003. So base rate for Euro delivery is .00155
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:53 PM
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0.00125-0.00049=0.00076

saw in the other thread you said the current rate was 0.00125. shouldnt the rate after msd be 0.00076 not 0.00106?
There is a .0003 adder for ED.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:06 AM
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i emailed my local bmw. i offered 1k over invoice with mf buy rate. plan on doing ED in march or may. going in to talk to the ca today.

first time lease so i also have to add on 0.00015 adder right?

im using the exel sheet from bmwconfig. for "lease return cost" this is for mile overage?

the holiday cash reduces the cap cost right?
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:26 AM
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But if you take delivery in March, you will have the incentives money factors from Jan or Feb. You do realize those incentives an MF may be different right?
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:40 AM
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dindt realize that, thougth you could lock it in. how soon would i have to go pick it up?
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:42 AM
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[QUOTE=twobrain;7193985]first time lease so i also have to add on 0.00015 adder right?
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Only if this is your 1st time financing a car.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:43 AM
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dindt realize that, thougth you could lock it in. how soon would i have to go pick it up?
You can only lock in the rate for 60 days. However, if you work with a California sponsor like Greg or Justin they can lock in the rate for 90 days.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:34 AM
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You can only lock in the rate for 60 days. However, if you work with a California sponsor like Greg or Justin they can lock in the rate for 90 days.
Correct.

Since you mentioned "local dealer" I assumed the 60 day lock in.

If you want the incentives now, talk to Greg P or Justin and make sure you lock in so you can get your full 90 days.
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thanks guys, so ill schedule a pick up first week of jan to be within 60 days.

is the registration fee and doc fee the same?

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Old 11-14-2012, 11:46 AM
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Any idea what the residual and MF is on an e93 m3?
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thanks guys, so ill schedule a pick up first week of jan to be within 60 days.

is the registration fee and doc fee the same?
Remember, you have 60 days from the end date of the program. So technically until sometime in Feb for December programs.

But if that is the case, go with one of the west coast sponsors and get yourself a great deal and an extra 30 days.
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thanks guys, so ill schedule a pick up first week of jan to be within 60 days.

is the registration fee and doc fee the same?
I highly recommend you work with your chosen client advisor as soon as possible. They can give you the make up of your deal and delivery date options. Feel free to post your deal on the boards for review before acceptance if you wish. The longer you wait, the lower the chance of you getting the delivery date you want, or the deal.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:39 AM
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setup an order for jan 2. but on the ed calendar it looks like welt is closed that day. but on the welt site it doesnt say its closed. havent heard back from my CA. ill shoot for the week after if its closed.

signed with my local CA down the road from me.
m3, alpine white/fox red/edc/dct/nav $900 over invoice
us msrp $68495
doc $398
acquisition fee $725
holiday cash $1500
registration $325
lux tax (0.4%) $241
local tax (0.7%)

36 months/10k miles
62% residual
0.00125 money factor, 0.0003 ED adder
max SD (7)
effective money factor 0.00106

1st payment $550
Tax $1,590
1st year fees (reg + lux tax) $566
Security Deposit $3,850
Other (acquisition + Doc fees) $1,123
Downpayment $296

opted to pay fees and taxes upfront. not sure if i should roll them in with the lease. not sure if its too late to change.

lufsthansa flights round trip are about $1000. saw some berlin air flights for $800

plan on booking some rooms on airbnb
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:41 AM
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Check out flights to London instead and then flights from London to Munich. You can typically save a couple hundred bucks this way and get to see another city as well.

Virgin Atlantic from Newark or JFK is a great flight
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:16 AM
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setup an order for jan 2. but on the ed calendar it looks like welt is closed that day. but on the welt site it doesnt say its closed. havent heard back from my CA. ill shoot for the week after if its closed.
You don't actually have a date set up until its confirmed by the ED group. Have you gotten the confirmation email? I think I got it forwarded to me by my sales guy (don't remember)
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:20 AM
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I can confirm that Welt is closed until January 6th. I confirmed this with BMW Euro Delivery when I placed my order. My pcikup date got set as January 16th!
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:34 AM
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Well, today I made the final decision. I was going to purchase a 135is or 335is but the leases on M3 improved so much this month I could not resist.

Here is the deal I agreed upon today. I placed my order this morning and already received my production number.

MSPRP: $66,595
SELLING PRICE: $57,920
REBATE: $1500 (Holiday Cash)
TERM: 36 months
RATE: .00106 due to max MSDs
ACT FEE: $725
DOC FEE: $399

If I coundt the doc fee I am getting the M3 for $750 over invoice before the Holiday Cash. After Holiday cash I am paying around $750 below EU Invoice.

This was a long journey. The funny thing is I started looking at a 328i manual Sedan and worked my way up the BMW lineup because I could not find a car that fit all my needs. The 135is and 335is was close but the M3 is my dreamcar.

Here is what I am getting

2013 BMW M3 w/ 6spd Manual

300 Alpine White
4MY Carbon Leather interior Trim
NCH2 Fox Red Novillo Leather
Z19 Double Spoke (Style 219M) Satin Chrome finish M light alloy wheels
(18 x 8.5 front, 18 x 9.5 rear; 245/40 front and 265/40 rear performance tires)

223 Electronic Damping Control
494 Heated front seats
609 Navigation system
615 Online Information Services
620 Voice Command
639 BMW Assist
6FL iPod and USB adapter
6NN Hands Free Bluetooth
6UH Real Time Traffic Information
7KB Navigation, BMW Assist w/ enhanced BT & USB
I adjusted my order yesterday. I saw Fox Red for the 1st time earlier this week. It was too orange for my liking. It wasn't as close to Coral Red and pictures online was a bit misleading. Since I'm no longer doing red inside I decided to do red outside!

My new build is

A75 Melbourne Red Metallic
771 Titanium Shadow trim
GEAT Anthracite & Black Cloth/Leather
Z59 19" Light alloy Y-spoke wheels style 359M-with performance tires
(19 x 9 front, 19 x 10 rear; 245/35 front and 265/35 rear performance tires)

494 Heated front seats
609 Navigation system
ZCP Competition Package
223 Electronic Damping Control
7MA Competition package
Z59 19" Light alloy Y-spoke wheels style 359M-with performance tires
615 Online Information Services
620 Voice Command
639 BMW Assist
6FL iPod and USB adapter
6NN Hands Free Bluetooth
6UH Real Time Traffic Information
7KB Navigation, BMW Assist w/ enhanced BT & USB


I decided not to pay extra for black leather. I do not like the way black leather feels in the summer (It BURNS!). It is a bit weird having cloth seats in a near 70K car. However, after seeing the interior in person I am actually impressed.

I also decided not to go with the Carbon Interior trim because I found: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...ction+Interior. It is more expensive but I really like the look.
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I decided not to pay extra for black leather. I do not like the way black leather feels in the summer (It BURNS!)..
Exactly the reason i never get black interior. Looks great but talk about making a grown man in shorts cry...
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I can confirm that Welt is closed until January 6th. I confirmed this with BMW Euro Delivery when I placed my order. My pcikup date got set as January 16th!
Can you give some insight into the ability to strike your excellent deal, given that M's come out of dealer allocation? I was pleasantly surprised that your deal was so good, and would have expected more of a premium given allocations. For example, how you went about finding a dealer, did your dealer have additional allocation units they wanted to move, how pricing negotiations transpired? This may also help others as they try to get M's.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:27 AM
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Can you give some insight into the ability to strike your excellent deal, given that M's come out of dealer allocation? I was pleasantly surprised that your deal was so good, and would have expected more of a premium given allocations. For example, how you went about finding a dealer, did your dealer have additional allocation units they wanted to move, how pricing negotiations transpired? This may also help others as they try to get M's.
I don't want to speak for cchrisv, but it seems he had already been working with a CA, as he mentioned he was looking at ordering some other cars, when the M3 lease deal popped up. His CA apparently had an allocation for the M3, so it seems he was the recipient of a helpful CA and good timing.

That's not to say others can't get close to the same deal, but it's just not as easy. Known customer and an allocation you can sell - makes it easier to do. IMHO.
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Use a CA dealer like Greg or Justin, this will give you 90 days from the day the incentive ends.
Thanks for the tip! I'll keep that in mind for next time.

I actually did try, but couldn't find an allocation for a December build/delivery from California dealers. For tax return and workload reasons, I needed to get the ED delivery done in December.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:14 AM
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I can confirm that Welt is closed until January 6th. I confirmed this with BMW Euro Delivery when I placed my order. My pcikup date got set as January 16th!
oh man thats a good day to travel. flights start at $695 round trip from jfk to muc. crazy

http://matrix.itasoftware.com/search.htm is good for searching prices btw
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Can you give some insight into the ability to strike your excellent deal, given that M's come out of dealer allocation? I was pleasantly surprised that your deal was so good, and would have expected more of a premium given allocations. For example, how you went about finding a dealer, did your dealer have additional allocation units they wanted to move, how pricing negotiations transpired? This may also help others as they try to get M's.
The dealership I was working with from the start offered me $350 over invoice on any model BMW. I thought this would change when I settled on an M car because it comes out of their allocation. However, they still honored their initial offer to me.

I was originally planning on working with a sponsor but this dealership has been so amazing I decided to work with them.
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I thought this would change when I settled on an M car because it comes out of their allocation. However, they still honored their initial offer to me.
Do you think this was an error on the part of the dealership and they honoured it? Do you think others could get that same deal as well? Would you be willing to share your CA contact with others?

I whole heartedly support the sponsors of this board, but I also agree that non-sponsors who work well do deserve recognition when other board members are looking for folks to work with, and a sponsor may not be able to meet their needs. It's entirely up to you if you want to publicize the CA/dealership, or would like to do it via PM for example.
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Do you think this was an error on the part of the dealership and they honoured it? Do you think others could get that same deal as well? Would you be willing to share your CA contact with others?

I whole heartedly support the sponsors of this board, but I also agree that non-sponsors who work well do deserve recognition when other board members are looking for folks to work with, and a sponsor may not be able to meet their needs. It's entirely up to you if you want to publicize the CA/dealership, or would like to do it via PM for example.
Well I think it was more of a case that they kept to their word. They offered me one things not considering I might end up with an M3. I was actually willing to pay more over invoice for the M3 but their honored their original request. The other excellent thing was they did not markup the MF or fees so I did not have to fight over that.

They had 4 available M3 allocations when I ordered. Sadly none are available anymore. Two other board members I referred used 2 of those and the final one was traded for 3x X1 allocations (they are selling really well on the East Coast since its winter time).

My CA is Jordan Shahin @ BMW of Sterlin in Virginia. I wont post his cellphone on the forums but anyone can PM me for it. He should be able to help anyone get the car they want and a excellent price. He indicated they will have additional allocations available later the year. However, it will likely be too far out for current incentives. He actually owns a 1M and sounded sad when I decided not to get the 135is.
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