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Old 11-15-2012, 11:25 AM
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2012, 528i Vibration at 65-80 mph.

I am dealing with a frustrating vibration on my 2012 528i, 17" wheels with Cont RFT. The car has a vibration at 65-80 mph on the road. Even on smooth fresh paved roads the car is doing the same thing. The vibration will go away at higher or lower speeds. The dealer told me i had a bent wheel which has been fixed. I was then told there was a tire out of balance which was fixed. They then balanced the tires again and no solve. Then the dealer had an engineer drive the vehicle. He ordered a new drive line and they replaced 1 tire. The car still had the vibration. Finally they replaced the Cont tires with GY tires, the vibration was better but still exsisted. I have now asked BMW to buy back the car as a lemon. Has anyone found anything that solves this issue? I recently drove a similar 528 on the lot that had the same vibration. I have 2 friends with 5 series vehicles that are not getting the same vibration.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:33 AM
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Might want to take a look here http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=658315. Looks like user RDZumbaugh had a vibration issue with his 3 series and BMW bought it back. I have been lucky and have not had vibration issues or none that I have noticed. I have had my 528xi for almost 1 month and have put a little over 2000 miles on it with no issues. I have the same 17" Conti RFTs. I have driven mostly highway miles and have not noticed the vibration. How soon after owning the car did you notice the vibration? Sorry to hear you have to deal with this issue. Definitely stay on top of the dealer until it is resolved. I am sure other members can offer more insight.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:36 AM
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I felt the vibration with about 700 miles in the vehicle and started to deal with it.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:47 PM
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These cars are very sensitive to wheel imbalance in my experience. The "harmonic" that seems to be in play is centered around 70mph just as you describe.

I would definelty make sure that you attempt a HunterRoad Force balance, rather than any other balance. If the problem doesn't go away, keep on your dealer and force them to make it right or buy the car back.
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:50 PM
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I had this same issue with my 2013 328 as mentioned. After I got my final Trade Assist offer, the GM of the dealership told me that BMW has found a fix and identified which vehicle have been affected and will be shipping new front "racks" to dealers to perform the fix. If they do they Hard Road Balance and it is still vibrating, you're out of options. Call BMWNA to complain. It is a frustrating process but we don't spend this type of money on BMW's with this type of issue. I ordered a 2013 528 that is waiting on a ship - I'm hoping to god that it won't have this issue - if so, I'll walk away from BMW. Good Luck!!!
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:55 PM
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Hate to say this but its still a manuafacturing defect that is causing the vibration in the car around 70-80 mph. My 2011 BMW 535i xdrive had this and 4 defective (bent rims) were replaced and tires were changed 4x but the problem remained so the car was rid of. There is alot of post about this. If you went through all of this, the car is a lemon for sure and its a complaint at is all over the world for this car and its being going on for 2 years now with no resolution for those whom are still having this problem. Snj1013- all BMW dealers are aware of road force balancing and they do this by default and yes I and many people have done this and I was also aware of the sensitivity of this car but still with the road force in the single digits (less than 9 lbs in the rear which is suppose to give glass smooth ride on smooth newly paved asphalt, the BMW 5 I had would vibrate in the seats and it would tick my nerves so badly that it was totally unacceptable after 10-15 times going to the dealer and other road force specialists to get it resolved. To the OP, get rid of the car now and get another one. I have tried 2 demo 535i and they vibrated last year while 1 of them didn't.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:14 PM
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I just picked the car up again and discovered that after changing from Cont to GY they only did a static balance. Not sure why the dealer would do this, I am going to have it road force balanced tomorrow. Already told BMW to lemon the car at this point.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:14 AM
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If your willing to keep at this problem, then you'll have to keep researching this forum for other ideas, and tell the SA to try them. Did they replace or rotate the struts?

OTOH, you deserve better....you didn't buy a Pinto or Gremlin.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:59 PM
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I have now taken my car to a tire shop to have it road force balanced, since dealer did not do it on my 4th visit. They told me there were several issues and the left front was way off from road force. They told me in their "opinion" the car was 90%. Based on the feeling the car is 90%. Still a vibration however it feel lighter. This was my last "hail mary" I give up, just cant wait for BMW to buy this back. The dealership is not even trying to fix it at this point. They listed "operating as designed" on my paperwork.
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Old 11-14-2014, 07:42 PM
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Vibration

I was just reading thru some of the post and I too have an issue with vibration at around 60mph. I have a 2012 750IL M Sport (Xdrive). I'm going to have it looked at next Friday.

I was trying to figure it out as to whether or not I had hit one of the massive Jersey potholes that seem to open up out of nowhere or if there was something else going on.

Perhaps I'll be able to report something good by Saturday of next week. I'm not happy with it to say the least.

I would say, that when I have it in the Sport mode that it settles "somewhat."
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Old 11-14-2014, 07:53 PM
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i just picked up a 2011 535iX and was experiencing the vibration. I took it in and they determined it was a wheel bearing. they replaced it and 60% of the vibration went away but i returned it the next day for the existing vibration. they balanced all the wheels and its about 95% gone. the roads are so rough here that its really hard to tell but I will test drive a newer 535 next week to see if theres a difference.
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Old 11-14-2014, 08:09 PM
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Mike,

Thanks for the reply. I'll definitely keep that noted for when I go in. It seems like there's an issue with the later models for some reason. I never had an issue when I had my 06 750 and from what I've been reading, across the board, people are having the same problem.
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Old 11-15-2014, 06:49 AM
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Mine is under warranty so it will be their headache not mine. The dealership is an easy drive to an area i frequent and i can drive a different Bimmer each time i drop mine off to them. When I'm 100% then the dealership can rest.
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Old 11-15-2014, 06:53 AM
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LOL, I hear you bro! And make sure you drive the loaner like they drive our cars when we drop them off. On 2 wheels!
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Old 11-15-2014, 07:09 AM
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Here is what unwound suggest to prove that its a car problem. You might want to record this while you do this.
Drive your friends car at same speed and prove no vibration.
Swap your wheels with his wheels and drive at same speed. If it's a car issue you will catch the vibration.
Now you can take it to them saying you drive on different wheels and tires which had no vibration in your friends 5series.
This method has been proven.
Hope this helps.
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Old 11-15-2014, 07:15 AM
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LOL, I hear you bro! And make sure you drive the loaner like they drive our cars when we drop them off. On 2 wheels!
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Old 11-15-2014, 07:39 AM
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Thats a good idea but a lot of work. But I like the concept. How about going for a ride with the service manager in a 535 loaner that has plenty of miles and feeling no vibration and then telling them to swap the loaner tires with mine to see what happens.



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Here is what unwound suggest to prove that its a car problem. You might want to record this while you do this.
Drive your friends car at same speed and prove no vibration.
Swap your wheels with his wheels and drive at same speed. If it's a car issue you will catch the vibration.
Now you can take it to them saying you drive on different wheels and tires which had no vibration in your friends 5series.
This method has been proven.
Hope this helps.
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Old 11-15-2014, 04:57 PM
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2012, 528i Vibration at 65-80 mph.

^That will work too. Go for it.
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Old 11-16-2014, 03:39 AM
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BMW will fight your tooth and nail on a buyback for the car. They'll push for replacement of the tires, and possibly wheels again. After the sale, BMW does not care to keep you as a future customer--they just want to minimize their costs. No doubt they have contracts with their suppliers to eat costs if there are problems....like Goodyear or Conti for tires and Ronal for wheels.

From my experience with two F10 bodied cars with handling and ride issues with tires involved....there is something more to it than that. The tires and wheels accentuate the issue however there is a design issue that causes these problems IMO. BMW doesn't care. To keep your life sane, you might want to take the care to a really good Indy shop and have the tires & wheels checked for roundness and have them balance them and see what happens.

BMW could make everyone's life much easier by killing off run-flats however they've baked in their EPA number with run-flats. Talk about total short term gain while alienating an entire customer base. I haven't met anyone (at least someone that likes cars) that thinks run flats are a good idea.
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