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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 11-16-2012, 09:25 PM
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Oil Life Meter, 7k and only 1 bar used

That's right... I did an oil change at 94k, 3 months ago. Been driving a lot on the hwy for work and am at 101k+ and the oil meter is only showing 1 green bar used up. I thought by now more bars would of been used. This normal? At this rate the meter will take me 40k miles on a oil change. I thought the meter was setup for an approx 15k interval and then adjusted based on telemetry of use. When I hit 104 -105k I'm doing a oil change if the meter says to or not.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:39 PM
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Ignore the indicator, and change oil every 5k. Don't obsess about this.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:16 PM
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Honda and GM have the oil life meter down to a science... Esp Honda. 100%, 90%, 80% etc. Comes out to like a 8k interval. realistic. 5k on my BMW with Syn oil and doing HWY trips? I don't think so. 7,500 min. 10k max. 8k seems what I always end up going with on most cars.

I finally got some time tonight to look at the spec sheets on the M1 0-40 and the Castrol Edge 0-30 and the factory BMWoil. Looks like the M1 is abut 11% thicker. And from what I searched the BMW Dealership oil is not the "good stuff". It's just decent oil that meets spec. So looks like I'm going to try and my hands on some 0-30 Castrol Edge (German castrol). The 0w-30 Edge meets the LL-01 and the MB Spec for my wife's C300. I think that is the way to go if I can find it locally and do a 8-10k interval.
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:32 AM
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I would change your oil every 5000 - 7500km. Even though the Synthetic oil will last longer than that, why put more stress on your engine and components than need be? My 528i could technically be changed every 10000km but screw that I love my car too much to risk any harm to her . Id play it safe bud!
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:17 AM
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yeah....junk the oil service lights.

general rule - dino oil 5000kms / semi synth 7000kms / synth 10000kms

i used to ref to these light from my e28 and e30 heydays but ditched the idea from the e34.
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:59 AM
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Oil is lots cheaper than engine parts. Besides, it makes you feel good afterwards.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:45 PM
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^ I'm not impressed with the BMW oil monitoring system. I think they have it stretched out for the "free maintenance" they now include all these new cars. It's a freakin joke. All they care is the car makes it out of the lease or warranty. 5-10k interavals are not bad. 10K is the most I ever go on any car. 5k is min. like I said.. 7,500 or round up to 8k is about ideal for cost/time/environment/service life of oil. Like I said, Honda makes awsome engines and they let you go about 8k on Dino 5w-20. I think the thing people forget is that just b/c the oil is syn and can theoretically last 15k, doesn't mean your engine is that clean and blow by may only allow you to go 7 or 8k still. Otherwise you have thinned out gas diluted oil. I'm doing 8k intervals on my car. Same on my wife's C300. Damn MB computer does about 13k inbetween changes. BS. But yet the year after ours, same everything... the transmission and engine oil intervals were backed down to 10k and 39k on the trans From 13k & 78k or something stupid. So they found something out in the first year of that C300 that they're not willing to go back and admit. The dealer still says our year C300 calls for 13k oil and 78 on trans. I do the following years intervals and then back the oil even further down to 8k. I guess the reality is "the average person" that buys these cars only keeps them for a few years, beats the crap out of them and does minimum. But I think we are the true car owners who want to keep our cars in mint condition and running for 200K+. I always laugh everytime I'm at the Chikfila near my house which has a car wash & oil change place across the street... place has cars lined up out into the street so they can have an idiot change thier oil in 5 minutes and run it through a crappy brush car wash. And yet I see Porches, bmw's everything there... you know damn well they don't have the right oil or filters. I took my 4cyl Pontiac G6 Company car there ONCE when I had to make a long road trip in a hurry and couldn't do the service myself. I got home and they had left the air filter box unclipped and not properly closed. Yeah, I'm sure they're doing great work on that late model Porche and BMW.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:43 AM
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... Been driving a lot on the hwy for work and am at 101k+ and the oil meter is only showing 1 green bar used up. I thought by now more bars would of been used. This normal? ... I thought the meter was setup for an approx 15k interval and then adjusted based on telemetry of use. When I hit 104 -105k I'm doing a oil change if the meter says to or not.
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^ I'm not impressed with the BMW oil monitoring system. ....
This reply is in no way an attempt to get you to change your mind about the effectiveness or worth of the Service Interval Display...or BMW's forumula for its calculation.

But, from what you wrote above...your conception has a faulty foundation based on an inaccurate premise that mileage is a key factor...which throws off your entire perception of the Service Interval Display.

Let me state for the record...the frequency of oil changes & what type of oil to use is totally a personal decision for how one wants to maintain their vehicle...so again, my comments are by no means a way to bring you into BMW's "fold"...to follow their recommendation to the "T". I'm just posting FYI data as to how the SIA III system was designed to work so that incorrect information isn't promoted further.

First, it is not an "oil monitoring" system...second, it is not set-up for a precise time/mileage base. SIA III (which your car has) uses fuel consumption to determine the progression of the SI lights. You can read the info below as to why BMW went away from the SI calculation of time/distance/engine load...to a single & simple fuel consumption calculation.

Your percentage of mostly highway driving is indicative of SIA III calculation. Your gas consumption is going to be less...which also means that stress on your engine and engine load etc. is less..thus the green LEDs are not counting off as fast as you thought they would under the assumption that the oil is being monitored and/or that there's a 15K mileage calculation involved (again, neither of those variables are accurate).

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Old 11-18-2012, 08:59 AM
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:52 PM
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Generally, I get two oil changes in for each full cycle of the service indicator and I change mine every 7500 miles. It's actually pretty accurate in that respect. I can't see ever using it as a real indicator of when to change the oil. 14-15k is way too long.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:44 PM
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^ Agree. But I've put like 7k on the car and only 1 bars has moved. Must be all the hwy cruising at 80-85mph for 7hrs. So basically 7,500-8k mi intervals in the real world. According to that meter diagram above, at this rate my meter will go 35k mi. 7k and only bar 1 has moved (20%).... that's 7x5=35.


I have ordered 2 6qt cases of Castrol 0w-30 Edge that meets the LL01 spec and is on the BMW approved list of oils. Love amazon. Nobody locally carried the stuff. I'll go 7,500-8k on oil changes. Shouldn't have any issues with that.
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