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Old 11-09-2012, 03:28 PM
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If I plan an ED between 3/28/13 and 4/5/13, do I need winter tire?
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:15 PM
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If I plan an ED between 3/28/13 and 4/5/13, do I need winter tire?
To drive legally in Wintry conditions, yes, you do require Winter tires in March and early April. Even if conditions are not Wintry, if you drive in Bavaria or Austria without Winter tires and are in an accident, then you will be deemed to be at fault, regardless of whether you otherwise would be or not.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:06 AM
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SO if you did a ED with pickup in the last few days of April or the first few weeks of May, would you really need winter tires?
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What about after April 15? Winter tire still needed in order for BMWED insurance cover for anything?
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:19 AM
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SO if you did a ED with pickup in the last few days of April or the first few weeks of May, would you really need winter tires?
It is highly unlikely that you would need Winter tires, unless you are planning to drive into higher elevations (above 1200 m) and and a late blast of Winter returns - which does very occasiionally happen.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:22 AM
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What about after April 15? Winter tire still needed in order for BMWED insurance cover for anything?
I am not familiar with the requirements of the BMW insurance cover so cannot answer your question. The likelyhood of you requiring Winter tires to cope with road conditions after mid-April is minimal, unless you are planning to drive into the Alps to visit the ski resorts, some of which are open till the first week of May.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:16 PM
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I am not familiar with the requirements of the BMW insurance cover so cannot answer your question. The likelyhood of you requiring Winter tires to cope with road conditions after mid-April is minimal, unless you are planning to drive into the Alps to visit the ski resorts, some of which are open till the first week of May.
I am not planning to go up the Alps...just go north toward Berlin and or the Ring area then back to Munich...but I am not risking if BMWED insurance is not covering without snow tires before 4/15...anyone knows?
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Old 11-24-2012, 10:43 AM
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I am not planning to go up the Alps...just go north toward Berlin and or the Ring area then back to Munich...but I am not risking if BMWED insurance is not covering without snow tires before 4/15...anyone knows?
Presumably the BMW insurance would be the same as others, ie the blame would automatically be on you if you got yourself into an accident.
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Hi,
Would buying euro-rail ticket to take trains across countries a better option than renting snow tires that cause up to $500 for 4 days?

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Old 12-27-2012, 10:22 AM
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Would buying euro-rail ticket to take trains across countries a better option than renting snow tires that cause up to $500 for 4 days?
Thanks.
Yes, sure - if you are over for a European Winter vacation and don't want to drive, then traveling by train is a good alternative. I think you may have missed the point though of what the European Delivery program is all about - something about touring through some of Europe's finest countryside with your new car, not to mention experiencing how it is to drive at high speed -and doing so legally - on the German Autobahnen!
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:16 PM
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How much extra would it be to drop off the car in Hamburg?
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:27 PM
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Yes, sure - if you are over for a European Winter vacation and don't want to drive, then traveling by train is a good alternative. I think you may have missed the point though of what the European Delivery program is all about - something about touring through some of Europe's finest countryside with your new car, not to mention experiencing how it is to drive at high speed -and doing so legally - on the German Autobahnen!
You're right. I missed the point of the ED program
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:07 PM
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How much extra would it be to drop off the car in Hamburg?
Hamburg would be 395 Eur (see http://www.edwintertires.com/drop_off.htm)
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:39 AM
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Is the winter tire rental price really $500 for 4 days?!?!?
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:26 PM
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Is the winter tire rental price really $500 for 4 days?!?!?
The rental amount depends on the vehicle for which the wheels & tires are for (see http://www.edwintertires.com/rates.htm).

For example, a 4-day rental for a 1-series would be 199 Eur, for an M3 it would be 276 Eur, for most 5-series cars 293 Eur, for a 750i it would be 464 Eur and for an M5 or M6 it would be 500 Eur.
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Old 12-30-2012, 08:11 PM
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Hamburg would be 395 Eur (see http://www.edwintertires.com/drop_off.htm)
Thanks John! I noticed you have availability to do it in Berlin. Is there a BMW drop point in Berlin now??
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Actually I was told today that if you do up to April 15th delivery you will get winter tire installed... After 15th you will get regular... Is that true?
I'm planning either Apr 1st or Apr 16th but based on this I can review my plans...

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I'm approved for an April 15 delivery and only picked that date after my dealer called BMWNA and was told that even though the winter tire requirement is Oct. 15 THROUGH April 15 that the buyer has the option of getting snow tires or not for April 15 deliveries. I'm in the process of checking this further and will post again when I have a definite answer. Right now my delivery date is the 15th and I'm planning to stay in Munich for a day or two after delivery so really don't want the cost or hassle of getting snow tires on and off.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:37 PM
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I'm approved for an April 15 delivery and only picked that date after my dealer called BMWNA and was told that even though the winter tire requirement is Oct. 15 THROUGH April 15 that the buyer has the option of getting snow tires or not for April 15 deliveries. I'm in the process of checking this further and will post again when I have a definite answer. Right now my delivery date is the 15th and I'm planning to stay in Munich for a day or two after delivery so really don't want the cost or hassle of getting snow tires on and off.
Good to know for my 4/23 M3 ED...
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Presumably the BMW insurance would be the same as others, ie the blame would automatically be on you if you got yourself into an accident.
We're looking into a 2014 X1 xdrive 2.8 M Sport (summer tire std equip) ED delivery Dec 14 of this year. Planning on the Welt install option and drop the vehicle off at your Ismanning Tire Depot on Thur or Fri Jan 2 or 3 of 2014. Regarding the statement of maintaining 24 hrs of the insurance - OK. However my question is regarding the "European Law" specifically the German section from your website noted below - is the Alliance Ins (or whoever BMW is using at that time) cover the vehicle as it is being driven to/from Log In Out location - who is liable for repair of the vehicle in the event of a accident while the vehicle is in your possession?

Is it better to drop off at Log In Out and you change the tire package in place at their location or would you still be driving it to/from Log In Out/Ismanning?

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Winter tires are compulsory in Bavaria when driving in wintry conditions and a small fine will be levied for a first offence. If, however, the free flow of traffic has been affected due to a car not being equipped with Winter tires then the fine is doubled and the driver's license will incur a penalty point. In the event of a car fitted with Summer tires being responsible for a road accident then the fine will be further increased and 3 penalty points attributed to the license. The lack of Winter tires in such a situation will usually be judged as a significant factor in judging which driver is at fault in a traffic incident or road accident. The user of a vehicle without Winter tires may well find the motor insurance to be invalidated.
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OK. However my question is regarding the "European Law" specifically the German section from your website noted below - is the Alliance Ins (or whoever BMW is using at that time) cover the vehicle as it is being driven to/from Log In Out location - who is liable for repair of the vehicle in the event of a accident while the vehicle is in your possession?

Is it better to drop off at Log In Out and you change the tire package in place at their location or would you still be driving it to/from Log In Out/Ismanning?
There is no facility at Log In Out to re-mount your wheels & tires - we need to take the car over to our depot. The insurance cover for that return journey is included in your existing European Delivery package insurance.
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Thanks to John and Annette for a great set of winter wheels for my new 328 Msport two weeks ago! It was a great trip and it snowed almost every day in garmisch and kitzbuhel! It would have been terrifying without those tires.

It was worth every penny of the 500 bucks or so for the week of peace of mind!
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:54 AM
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Thanks to John and Annette for a great set of winter wheels for my new 328 Msport two weeks ago! It was a great trip and it snowed almost every day in garmisch and kitzbuhel! It would have been terrifying without those tires.

It was worth every penny of the 500 bucks or so for the week of peace of mind!
We are pleased that you had a good, safe vacation.

The difference using Winter tires on snowy roads is huge, always more than most people ever expect!
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ED this October and winter tires

I'm picking up my 5 series on 10/11 then heading to Austria for a days then down to Italy for a couple weeks. I'd be dropping off in Munich on 10/28.

I understand that the German law requires snow tires starting 10/15, correct? The tire rental expense is fairly high for that many days (700+ euros). I will be in Italy from 10/15 and driving back to Munich on 10/27.

Do I need to worry about the weather? It feels like a bit of un-needed expense, but I'm not sure.

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Old 08-14-2013, 02:33 PM
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Some would say that's an easy question to answer with a firm "yes", that you do need to worry because if there's snow when you are in Bavaria, Austria or as you go over the Brenner Pass and you get stuck or cause others to get stuck or are in a collision, then you will be held responsible if you don't have Winter tires, regardless of whether you were really at fault or not.

In reality, you could wait till shortly before you arrive and then check out the 14-day weather forecast, as if it's going to be warm with not a Wintry day in sight then you can probably get away with not having any Winter equipment at all.

You might want to also keep one eye on the availability chart on the website for your type of vehicle, as if you start seeing some dates getting booked up then there may not be a set of Winter tires available if you end up wanting one. October is, after all, our busiest month for Winter tire rentals, along with December.
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