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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 03-24-2012, 12:51 PM
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I had a 49-DL fail on me after about 2 1/2 years. They gave me 60 bucks for it (prorated warranty) and with the cost of replacement now at $110, I decided to look around and see if I could find a better deal. I ended up finding a great battery at a regional chain (Farm and Fleet). It was $80, part #4972, stock venting location, fits the same as the OEM battery, and is 900 CCA / 1080 CA with a 72 month warranty on it. Of course this doesn't help anyone outside of the upper midwest, but thought I'd throw it out there...

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Has anybody installed the Optima Yellow or Blue battery on an E39?
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:36 PM
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Here's a discussion today covering a brand of batteries which may be of interest to others:
- > E39 (1997 - 2003) > AutoCraft H8-AGM battery only for $125.99!

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I installed a new battery (AutoCraft H8-AGM) from Advance Auto Parts last Saturday. So far everything works great. It's only $125.99 after using a link my friend sent to me. The link saved me $35 instantly. The battery can be used on X3, X5 and 5 Series. I got free installation at local store.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:39 PM
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Pep Boys - Bosch Battery Group 49

I just replaced my 4-year old Wally EverStart Group 49 ($63 back in 12/08) after it failed to start the E39 a couple weeks back (car sat idle for 4-5 days in near freezing temp). Although a charger brought the battery back to life, it was time to get a new one.

Pep Boys has a Bosch 49-850 with a 3yr replacement (plus roadside assistance jump start) for $109, minus a $25 coupon (via online - Google) and $20 rebate. Thus, $64 plus tax.

The EverStart and Bosch appear to be made by the same mfr given that the batteries' specs (850 CCA) and exterior details were identical.

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Old 11-29-2012, 02:38 PM
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Yep...you've stumbled upon this little secret...only a few battery mfg's in the USA....which make most of the battery brands for the entire country.


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Old 11-29-2012, 03:24 PM
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East Penn battery manufacturer

Your list is missing one, East Penn Manufacturing. They make their own labeled batteries, as well as several private label, including for Battery Plus stores under the "Werker" and "Ray-O-Vac" brands. They also own the company that makes the BMW branded batteries, although I believe those are made in a seperate factory.

Their "exact fit" batteries for European cars are very high quality.
http://www.dekabatteries.com/assets/base/0379.pdf

Where to buy: http://www.dekabatteries.com/default.aspx?pageid=10

I have their standard Group 49 battery (they also make an AGM version) for over 6 years, and it has never needed water (though I check it every couple years) and when I load tested it last weekend, it tested at 925 CCA! Granted, this is a sample size of one, but I am impressed with their quality. I only paid $93 for it 6 years ago.... I think their current price is more like $140, but worth it.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:07 AM
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I recently purchased a Duralast Platinum H8-AGM. The grey shirt working at the vato zone was about to grab the Duralast Gold lead acid battery, before I stopped him and got the Platinum instead just because it's an AGM battery. Newer may always be better. Glancing at the battery, it says that it was made in PA. Has all the same specs and housing as the Deka Intimidator and Ultimate AGM 9AGM49. I am not sure is Johnson Controls or East Penn manufactured it, but I have a few inclinations as to the latter.
My old BMW battery died sitting in my garage around freezing temperatures for over a week. The Duralast needs to be vented even with as an AGM battery, the vent tube spots are the same size and location as the OEM battery. I had also just reused the vent elbow and tube for the new battery. The Duralast is shorter by about 2cm thus the top hold down doesn't even touch the battery. It weighs about the same as the old battery, probably around 58-64 lbs. It was a slight pain in the ass to get the battery into the compartment(maybe I need to lift more weights ), but installation couldn't be any easier.

It sure starts my car much faster than before. With the good CCA rating, as well as RC I'm quite satisfied how it has been performing this winter. I think that the demands on the battery is pretty great even for a car made in 2001; Heated seats, DICE + music, heater, headlights and fogs, all running and the start up won't hesitate.

The price was less than Batteries Plus Duracell AGM, as well as Sears Diehard Platinum AGM. I also went with it because the AutoZone was closest to my house. I paid $160 +$12 core charge -$12 for my old battery. Warranty is 3 yrs. vs the Gold's 5 years, but I'm not a stickler for that kind of stuff. I'm not exactly sure how to review a battery, but I guess I will find out over time since this stuff varies by usage.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:39 AM
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Thanks for the update...this is the first I've heard of the Duralast "Platinum" H8. Perhaps this is why the Duralast 49 DL has been discontinued.

Don't worry so much about the upper brace (#5) in the battery compartment (its made to work with item #9...which we didn't even get here in the States)...the battery hold down clamp (#15) to the rear is what really secures the battery in place to prevent it from sliding fore/aft as well as up/down. Just make sure that the hold down clamp and vent tubes are hooked & clamped down correctly.

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Old 01-28-2013, 09:21 AM
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Sorry for harping on you guys with the....Deka exact fit.
What the name implies - exact fit. Just like the OEM battery, exact same size, no need of adapting, splicing, re-routing vent hoses etc. The vent hose fits exactly like the OEM one, more CCA than the OEM.
Have it for the last 3 years now, no issues. Temp swings between summer & winter from -30C or lower to +30C.
They also have the new AGM style. And a good warranty.
I'm with Duro on this. The "exact fit battery" from DEKA/East Penn Manufacturing Co is exactly like the original. I bought the AGM version (9AGM49) for my 2001 530. I was able to get it from a local batteries plus (they had to order it but they got it in a day). Their website shows a duracell branded battery but when I called they said they could get the DEKA.

Link to a pdf on DEKA's website http://www.dekabatteries.com/assets/base/0379.pdf

Also Amazon and battery mart have it listed (battery mart shows it unbranded).
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:50 AM
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When you change out the battery you might take a minute and wrap that metal battery hold down brace (#5 in the above RealOEM.com illustration) with some electrical tape. IF your wrench or ratchet ever falls out of your hand when working on the battery terminal (+) it will ground out on that metal hold down bar. Its not for the faint of heart when that happens. Ask me how I know!

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Old 01-30-2013, 04:38 AM
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Insulation.. almost always a good idea. I've had my fair share of f*** ups. A friend of mine had this beautiful beast of an E46 M3, but the PO had treated it poorly and the car had a bunch of electrical gremlins. I probably made it worse when disconnecting the battery and the wrench I was using touched the metal frame. The battery shorted out and bad shiz happened. So sad he ended up selling the car to some national car dealership network.
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From what I have seen East Penn makes the Duracell brand sold at Sams Club. $99.87
BCI Group Size:49
CA at 32 degrees F:1080
CCA at 0 degrees F:900
DIN code:H8
Reserve Capacity:185
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:53 AM
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Time for a new battery and this was the most relevant thread I found when searching the forums. I had some weird stuff happen that caused me to go get the battery tested at Advance Auto and their tester showed it was bad.
The weird stuff that happened was:
Battery Light illuminated
Car felt like it was running rough
Trifecta of lights (ABS, Brake, DSC)
Transmission Failsafe message upon turning-off the engine.
I restarted the car, saw no lights, and the car seemed to be running fine. (I was happy to search and see this was likely a battery issue! )
I'm replacing an Interstate battery that's been in the car since before I purchased it in 2010.
Based on what I've researched and price, it looks like I'll go with the Bosch from Pep Boys http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/9073755/00021/
Here's a $20 coupon http://www.pepboys.com/sale_specials..._100_jun13_cp/
With the discount, the cost will be $93.99 + tax.
I considered the AGM but don't see the justification for spending an extra ~$75...
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Good Replacement Batteries for the e39?

As I sit here in Pep Boys parking lot, I wonder why my old battery just tested 100% and yesterday at Auto Zone, their test indicated "replace battery."
I learned a couple things along the way:
1. My Interstate Megatron battery does not have a vent. (No problems in battery bay).
2. An old power cable was attached to my positive battery terminal. I removed it because it served no purpose.
3. Forgetting the socket set at home more than doubled time spent in removal/replacement of battery. Wrenches work...slowly.

I'm glad I didn't have to spend $100 today but worry this issue will pop-up again. Stay tuned...

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is there a punch out on the positive end of the battery? Can't tell on the photo. Lots of 49 series batteries have them
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severe530i you might want to get out your VOM(volt/ohm/meter) and try some tests.

With the engine off and the battery hooked up to the car... a good battery will show at least 12.8 (dc) volts. When the engine is running you should have at least 13.5 (dc)volts. Less than 13.5 dc volts and your alternator or wiring is bad.

Also with the engine running and measuring across the battery terminals for AC voltage... you should have LESS then one volt. Higher than one volt is indicative of a bad alternator.


On my e39 my positive battery cable was melting or burning up. I went to a junk yard and bought a used battery cable for five euros. My dealer wanted 400 euros for a new cable. While at the junk yard I also snagged the negative ground cable for teh battery. In my experience - both of these cables go bad over time/use. Someone replaces the battery and doesn't tighten the cables enough... they have high resistance and over time they burn up. When I replaced my positive cable I also measured my ground terminal and it had very high resistance. Use your ohm meter to check yours.

That said... a bad or old battery(+5 years) is on borrowed time... and should be replaced. Our cars have so much electronics... that when the supply voltage is too low... the car might run ok, but you get all these error codes and the trans goes into emergency limp mode along with the ABS and other electronics.
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A quick note on AGM batteries.... Had my first in a new 1990 Miata .... it was a Panasonic , made in Japan battery.

Battery was great and lasted 10 years.... But many guys had issues if they let the battery drain down and then tried to recharge them.... They do not come back from fully discharged very well . If you do accidentally discharge it , put a low charge rate on the battery for 24 hours . No fast charges .
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The dreaded battery light came back, and after testing, it looks like my issue is a bad alternator...the one I had replaced back in December 2012.
At least it's under warranty. The labor isn't.
Lucky for me, my indie is a block away and has free time. $100 to remove/replace and I'll have it back in about an hour.
Advanced Auto Parts is even going to deliver the remanufactured alternator for free within 20 minutes. Hope it lasts longer than the last one.
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Has anyone tried the Duracell from Batteries Plus? Specs look good, price here locally is about $140. Not the cheapest but seems the East Penn batteries work best.

My car came with one of those super start batteries in there. It was working fine, car sat for a couple weeks and then needed a jump to get going. Everything seemed ok after that for a few days but the last couple days it's not been holding a charge. Dwindled down from a few days to a few minutes!
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Has anyone tried the Duracell from Batteries Plus? Specs look good, price here locally is about $140. Not the cheapest but seems the East Penn batteries work best.
One of the reasons I went with my Duralast Platinum from Vatozone was because none of the Batteries Plus locations near me carried the Duracell AGM.
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:27 AM
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Has anyone tried the Duracell from Batteries Plus? Specs look good, price here locally is about $140. Not the cheapest but seems the East Penn batteries work best.
Its probably just as good as all the batteries that have been discussed in this thread. The battery class sizes: 49/H8 or 95/H9 work...and depending on how much you want to spend...versus the warranty and/or locations that you can make a warranty claim (if necessary) etc...all come into play as to which one you purchase.

Batteries Plus is a good vendor (here where I live) and stand behind their product. So if you feel comfortable with the price and their service versus the Duralast at Autozone, or the Advanced from Advanced Auto, or the EverStart from Walmart, or the Interstate (from Interstate) or the DieHard from Sears, etc, etc, etc...then purchase away.

Just remember to hook up the battery to the VENT TUBE!!!

You can see the specs & prices from this past summer here where I live...I was there to pick up a battery for my elec weed whip and walked over to check out the current prices.


49/H8 battery class size





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Price here is the same as the top picture. When it comes to warranty I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking at, but I'm stuck with no wheels so I'm in a hurry to get something. From looking online it seemed a reasonable price, and on the lower end. Walmart might be cheaper but I don't have the time or ability to run all over the city looking for one with the right battery in stock (real bad about that here). I wasn't convinced of the Duralast. So price is ok for me, and if y'all say batteries plus service is decent I think that's what I'll do. The Duracell has the longest reserve as well at 185min (wondering if that's accurate or inflated). Again, kind of pinched for time too.

Vent tube is currently not hooked up, and some fluid is seeping out of my super start battery...I tried refilling the water and probably overfilled a bit. It didn't help anyway, voltages were dropping into the 9's last night. I'm missing the elbow so I'll have to order one/find a way to rig it until then.

I was trying to figure how old the super start is, June is scratched off along with 5 and 8. Either way seems past due for replacement!
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Well I went with the Duracell. 36 month free replacement from date of purchase of original battery only (i.e. replacement doesn't restart the clock, is this the usual?)
Came with an elbow for the vent tube so that was a plus for me.

This is one big mother, the super start I had was the smallest size, this one is the biggest, concerning the holes for the hold down clamp.

Came out to 134.99 plus enviromental tax (pffff) and 10 for core. I have 14 days to return it if I find a better deal.

I just spend an hour and a half neutralizing and mopping up battery acid; the super start had been spewing (I'm guessing) the excess from when I refilled it. That's what I get for PO not having connected the vent tube! At least there was no damage.
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