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Old 11-30-2012, 09:04 PM
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:32 PM
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Great News Guys!

Your responses are precisely what I was looking for. A straw poll to be clear....and attribute at that....but still great to hear that BMW has not gone to hades with the cabriolet.

I have friends and colleagues that work at the Spartanburg, SC plant and I've guest lectured to one of their LSS Black Belt classes (I'm a Master BB). I know a few of their MBBs as well. So, its good to know that this issue is not as chronic as some might suggest.

I think that the acid test will be to take it through a car wash....although the only time that I do that is after we've had a snow event and there has been salt on our roads. I do live in the mountains and we do get some winter impact...nothing like the northeast or midwest...but it does happen. So if I drive after a snow event, I like to get the undercarriage clean and that requires the auto car wash.

You input is as I thought it would be....some probs....but the lion's share happy.

I also suspect that keeping the gaskets well moisturized is a key.

I'm a little concerned about the relays....but relays do go bad.

And BTW...your photos of your Cabs are gorgeous. You're helping me to get off the dime (or tens of thousands as it were) on my purchase decision.
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:07 AM
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[QUOTE=Nordic_Kat;7224189]Hi DJ,

Mine is a July 2009 (pre-LCI) build, took delivery Aug 2009.

Thaks Kat. BTW...your car is nice.

But what Mfg Dates are Pre and Post LCI?? Gotta know dat data nugget.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:17 AM
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BTW...your photos of your Cabs are gorgeous. You're helping me to get off the dime (or tens of thousands as it were) on my purchase decision.

Let's mention cargo capacity.

E93's top consumes a major part of truck space, leaving little....what remains is not real easy to access.

So, we flip the rear seatback down - it's carpeted in back. Rear seat's now a spacious parcel & luggage shelf. Top down it's much more convenient than truck space - if you consider yer E93 as an extended wheelbase roadster you got it - only a masochist would want rear seating in this car. OTOH, dogs love it!
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:47 AM
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Did have a rattling issue but was quickly fixed by the dealer.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:55 AM
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....input is as I thought it would be....some probs....but the lion's share happy.

If E93, ya gotta have the wind deflector.

Expensive but otherwise big big big benefit.
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:29 AM
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:32 AM
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If E93, ya gotta have the wind deflector.

Expensive but otherwise big big big benefit.
The E93 has very little wind noise and highway thumping with the top down compared to most other convertibles I've driven. I still can't see the need for the wind deflector.
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The E93 has very little wind noise and highway thumping with the top down compared to most other convertibles I've driven. I still can't see the need for the wind deflector.

Ah. Island or warmth on cooler days. Able to converse at speed. Turbulence abatement. Keeps a screen over the back seat.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:46 PM
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The E93 has very little wind noise and highway thumping with the top down compared to most other convertibles I've driven. I still can't see the need for the wind deflector.
Have you driven your car with and without it? I definitely notice a difference and so does Ms. Audio.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:16 PM
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Great News Guys!
And BTW...your photos of your Cabs are gorgeous. You're helping me to get off the dime (or tens of thousands as it were) on my purchase decision.
Photos to follow....

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But what Mfg Dates are Pre and Post LCI?? Gotta know dat data nugget.
IN 2010 they did the LCI, so any E93 2010 and older is Pre-LCI. 2011 and newer are LCI. I think.

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Let's mention cargo capacity.

E93's top consumes a major part of truck space, leaving little....what remains is not real easy to access.

So, we flip the rear seatback down - it's carpeted in back. Rear seat's now a spacious parcel & luggage shelf. Top down it's much more convenient than truck space - if you consider yer E93 as an extended wheelbase roadster you got it - only a masochist would want rear seating in this car. OTOH, dogs love it!
Never had the dog in there, but yes, the folding back seat is awesome. And trunk space isn't too bad for a convertible. You can get 2 21" rolling bags under the divider in the there (look for bags that are 9" or less wide). And if the divider is up, lots of room.

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If E93, ya gotta have the wind deflector.
Expensive but otherwise big big big benefit.
Completely agree. Look for a used one on eBay or other BMW boards with active buy/sell activity.

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The E93 has very little wind noise and highway thumping with the top down compared to most other convertibles I've driven. I still can't see the need for the wind deflector.
It does have very little turbulence and noise, but with the windscreen it's even better. My wife has very long hair, and with the windscreen up even if she doesn't have it pulled back it doesn't blow around, and with it not in place or down it blows over her face.

And when it's cold, you can put the windows up, turn on the bun warmers and you have less wind effect than a regular sunroof.

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Ah. Island or warmth on cooler days. Able to converse at speed. Turbulence abatement. Keeps a screen over the back seat.
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Have you driven your car with and without it? I definitely notice a difference and so does Ms. Audio.
Yes, indeed.

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Old 12-01-2012, 05:23 PM
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Have you driven your car with and without it? I definitely notice a difference and so does Ms. Audio.
No, but even my wife has never complained about excessive wind disturbance with the top down. I've had a number of convertibles and I think BMW has done a great job of designing the exterior and interior cabin to minimize wind disturbance. Maybe because some of my other cars were so bad the BMW just seems so good?

I also really enjoy driving with feeling the wind blowing through my hair and waking up my senses.
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No, but even my wife has never complained about excessive wind disturbance with the top down. I've had a number of convertibles and I think BMW has done a great job of designing the exterior and interior cabin to minimize wind disturbance. Maybe because some of my other cars were so bad the BMW just seems so good?

I also really enjoy driving with feeling the wind blowing through my hair and waking up my senses.
The BMW is very good in terms of top down turbulence (or lack thereof) but the wind deflector reduces it even further.

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No, but even my wife has never complained about excessive wind disturbance with the top down. I've had a number of convertibles and I think BMW has done a great job of designing the exterior and interior cabin to minimize wind disturbance. Maybe because some of my other cars were so bad the BMW just seems so good?

I also really enjoy driving with feeling the wind blowing through my hair and waking up my senses.
I like driving with the wind blowing through my hair as well. I just don't like it blowing into my face while I'm driving. The only time I have the windows up and top down is when I am highway driving. The wind deflector is marvelous for keeping the eddy currents contained and allows me to drive windows down/top down at 40+ mph with no stray locks blowing about, and no pony tails required either.

The other thing I've discovered the wind deflector does is it serves as a quasi air filter. You would be amazed at the amount of "junk" I routinely clean off the upright screen of the wind deflector. Every time I wipe the deflector down and see all the brake dust/exhaust fallout on it rather than on the interior of my car I shake my head in amazement but under my breath utter a little "thank you".
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I like driving with the wind blowing through my hair as well. I just don't like it blowing into my face while I'm driving. The only time I have the windows up and top down is when I am highway driving. The wind deflector is marvelous for keeping the eddy currents contained and allows me to drive windows down/top down at 40+ mph with no stray locks blowing about, and no pony tails required either.

The other thing I've discovered the wind deflector does is it serves as a quasi air filter. You would be amazed at the amount of "junk" I routinely clean off the upright screen of the wind deflector. Every time I wipe the deflector down and see all the brake dust/exhaust fallout on it rather than on the interior of my car I shake my head in amazement but under my breath utter a little "thank you".
Helping to keep my interior clean with the top down may be worth the price of admission for the wind deflector! I'll ask my dealer if they can provide a loaner deflector so I can try it out. Can you leave the deflector in place with the top up?

Driving around with the top down is one of the last bastions of free spirit I seem to get these days due to our digital world. That, and cruising out of the inlet and into the ocean in a boat on a beautiful sunny day.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:51 PM
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Helping to keep my interior clean with the top down may be worth the price of admission for the wind deflector! I'll ask my dealer if they can provide a loaner deflector so I can try it out. Can you leave the deflector in place with the top up?

Remarkable if that happens. Hey just buy it - you'll wonder why you hadn't had it until then.

Easily removed & collapsed for oversized rear seat cargo but most leave it installed.
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:28 AM
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well first off hope no one got hurt in the wreck!
I just got my first BMW, and its a 2007 335i, HTC, with 42,000 miles, before I purchased the car I had the dealer actuate the top with me standing in the back listening to the unit so in case there were issues of noise I would hear them. so far the top has worked perfect. no leaks but then I was the car in the drive way and blow dry it with the leaf blower. I read thru Kats thread on top maintenance, purchased the rubber care products, and the HHK grease she recommended. I have lubed everything on the top, and greased the seals every saturday so far. It appears the previous owner neglected the seals, but they still look fine. the tension cords are frayed but will get replaced this monday, the only issue I had was the radio head unit was replaced and the car was not reprogramed so the Aux and SAT,USB didnt exist on the radio. However Carmax made good on their claim that within the first 30 days they will fix anything, so to the dealer last friday, they reprogramed the radio, fixed any codes stored in the cars memory and Carmax paid the bill, now everything is back to OEM specs. Now maybe Carmax will pay for the tension cords, not that I expect that, but if they do I will be a Happy, first time,(used) BMW owner! But just check the car out that you plan to buy, get one from carmax if possible, that was one of the best interactions I have every had purchasing a car, from a car dealer.

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Thanks. No one hurt. But you answered another question. CARMAX. They say they will repair in the first 30 days...but technically the tensioned aren't broken if just frayed...so they say they will pay for those too?

CARMAX appears TOB's one of my best used Bimmer options since they will deliver a remote car to the local store. The last thing I want to do is to turn the search into a physical trek.

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well first off hope no one got hurt in the wreck!

But just check the car out that you plan to buy, get one from carmax if possible, that was one of the best interactions I have every had purchasing a car, from a car dealer.

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technically no they didnt say they would replace the tension cords. The BMW place has a good relationship with the local carmax, I think BMW thinks they will take care of it, but like I said, I didnt expect them to cover it but if they do, I will let them. If not I will pay for it.

also car max has an extended warranty, so I got one, 6 years or 75,000 miles with a 50 dollar deductable, does not cover maintenance items, but if its major I am covered

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Old 12-02-2012, 06:27 AM
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Great point about the filter effect, Kat. I routinely now include the wind screen when I clean the car, and it is surprising how much black dust comes off of it.

Also with you on the windows up - my earlier comment may have been misleading. I only go top down / windows up when 1) it's really cold, like below 50, 2) I'm on the highway, extended time at speed above 60, 3) on the phone I'll sometimes roll them
Up to reduce traffic noise.
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The wind deflector is a must! Keeps the breeze flowing past you instead of swirling in behind you. The wife says it also keeps the excess shopping bags in check after the trunk is full.

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