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E36 (1991 - 1999)
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:21 AM
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Crank fan delete

what is needed to do a crankshaft fan clutch and blade delete?
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:27 AM
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:31 AM
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i guess im not understanding.. what do you mean?
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:36 AM
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what is needed to do a crankshaft fan clutch and blade delete?
Please do not do it. The cooling system in e36's is the weakest part and you are talking about making it weaker.
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I'm saying to use the search function.

Not only will it tell you step by step how to do this (as it has been covered no less than 50 times) but will also tell you as alluded to above, why it is a bad idea.
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Please do not do it. The cooling system in e36's is the weakest part and you are talking about making it weaker.
i have the stage 3 cooling refresh kit from ecs tuning.. would you still recomend not doing it?
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i want to take the weight off the crankshaft but idk if it would be an ulpgrade or downgrade
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i want to take the weight off the crankshaft but idk if it would be an ulpgrade or downgrade
And what will that accomplish? The crankshaft has much stronger forces exerted on it several times a second.

Not only is that weight negligible in operation, the crank bearings were designed with that load in mind. I don't heat of a lot of crank bearing failures, do you?

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And what will that accomplish? The crankshaft has much stronger forces exerted on it several times a second.

Not only is that weight negligible in operation, the crank bearings were designed with that load in mind. I don't heat of a lot of crank bearing failures, do you?

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ok i got another question.. my fan clutch bearing lost a couple balls and was wobbling around.. the bearing has not failed but idk how close it is to failure.. so im askin if i should replace it or take that weight off?
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No, the pump lost bearings cause either its old/worn. or your fan might be missing a blade or two...


I dont have a clutch fan, but i dont think theres much of a difference
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It definitely does not make any practical sense to remove your fan, and is making an already extremely weak cooling system even weaker.

And if your fan clutch bearing has "lost a couple balls", I wouldn't even drive the car like that. If it gives out while the engine is on, it could send the fan flying into the radiator, hood, hoses, etc, thus making a $30 & 15 minute repair much more costly.
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No, the pump lost bearings cause either its old/worn. or your fan might be missing a blade or two...


I dont have a clutch fan, but i dont thinks theres much of a difference
what do you mean you dont have a clutch fan? do you have a direct fan or something?
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what do you mean you dont have a clutch fan? do you have a direct fan or something?
like theres no fan connected to my waterpump.
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like theres no fan connected to my waterpump.
did you delete it? what does it look like?
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did you delete it? what does it look like?
Look under your hood. Then ignore the fan. And picture thr waterpump with only a threaded nut sticking out lol





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Also to the OP (that's you JDMdudewhatever) the clutch fan weighs so little that you will get NO extra power by removing it. The electronic fan is meant to supplement the belt driven one, and not perform the whole duty. Our engines are very susceptible to overheating, and once you do you'll either wreck the head which is bookoo dollars or you'll blow the head gasket which is nearly as expensive to repair if you can't do it yourself. So to save yourself money in the long run, not to mention the brand new radiator you're probably planning to install, replace the damn fan and fan clutch

i searched it for you and took LESS than 5 minutes

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...ch%20%20%20%20

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EDIT: You'll also need a new waterpump if there's a ball bearing missing. http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...0Each%20%20%20
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Also to the OP (that's you JDMdudewhatever) the clutch fan weighs so little that you will get NO extra power by removing it. The electronic fan is meant to supplement the belt driven one, and not perform the whole duty. Our engines are very susceptible to overheating, and once you do you'll either wreck the head which is bookoo dollars or you'll blow the head gasket which is nearly as expensive to repair if you can't do it yourself. So to save yourself money in the long run, not to mention the brand new radiator you're probably planning to install, replace the damn fan and fan clutch

i searched it for you and took LESS than 5 minutes

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...ch%20%20%20%20

^fan clutch

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...ch%20%20%20%20

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EDIT: You'll also need a new waterpump if there's a ball bearing missing. http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...0Each%20%20%20
This.

In shorter words, dont remove it, replace the broken stuff.

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i have the stage 3 cooling refresh kit from ecs tuning.. would you still recomend not doing it?
By "stage 3 cooling refresh kit" do you mean this one. if so the Stewart pump should last for ever. Are you sure it is failing? Also did you change the fan clutch and blade when you refreshed the cooling system. If so and the wobble started right after you refreshed it then maybe you installed something wrong.
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By "stage 3 cooling refresh kit" do you mean this one. if so the Stewart pump should last for ever. Are you sure it is failing? Also did you change the fan clutch and blade when you refreshed the cooling system. If so and the wobble started right after you refreshed it then maybe you installed something wrong.
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E36-325...ing/ES2598404/ no i mean this one
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By "stage 3 cooling refresh kit" do you mean this one. if so the Stewart pump should last for ever. Are you sure it is failing? Also did you change the fan clutch and blade when you refreshed the cooling system. If so and the wobble started right after you refreshed it then maybe you installed something wrong.
i have not installed the refresh kit yet.. its on its way.. and i dont know that it is failing but i know that the vibration cannot be doin any good at all for it
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I'm telling you man, do NOT drive your car if it's vibrating like that. You're going to make a cheap repair much more expensive that way.
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