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E63 / E64 6 Series (2003 - 2013)
The E63/E64 BMW 6 Series builds on BMW's sporty heritage with aggressive lines and an incredible motor to back the design up. Available in coupe and convertible trims with a standard 4.8 liter engine producing 360 horsepower and 360 lb-ft of torque, the 6-series is a popular choice that exceeds expectations.

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Old 12-06-2012, 11:20 AM
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Who's going to keep their 6er?

We see a lot of talk about running from our cars when the warranty is gone. I wanted to konw, who is keeping their car? How many miles do you have and what should we be looking out for?

I think the coolant pipe issuse, top not locked and the alternater oil leak are well known/documented for the 645. What else? How about the 650's?

My 2007 650i has 55,000. It has been out of warranty for 14 months. If I make it another 10 months without a major repair expense then I will have avoided the $3000 cost of the CPO warranty. So far I believe the only thing the warranty would have covered was a door sill light. Everything else I've spent has been on general maintainance.

My wife and I have typicaly driven our cars for a decade or so before giving them up. My thought is to do the same with this car. I do most of my own work, so maintainance is reasonable She is in a 2011 325i. I won't be able to get her out of that car for quite a while. My Aviator is an 04 about to turn 100k...I'm keeping that one for a while too.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:23 PM
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Hi what you read for any 6 series model up to the start of the F12/ F13 2011 onwards will be the same as the 645 and the 650 are 99.5% the same cars with mostly cosmetic upgrades throughout, same N62 Engine and transmission. In the UK and Europe we have the 3.0ltr and diesel models which have different reliability issues, but no where near the issues of the N62 engine.
Second point is not all cars will suffer the same symptoms and faults, some cars will have no issue whatsoever and run for long and happy miles. What gets reported on forums by their very nature will often air on the side of negative!!!! Some guys have hit 150K and no problems at all.
I do believe that their are real differences between countries and the model build that each country gets, as there are subtle differences......Also the extremes of climate can make a big difference.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:27 PM
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Thought this update of the N62 took care of some of the early issues?

N62B44

The N62B44 is a 4,398 cc (268 cu in) version. Bore is 92 mm and stroke is 82.7 mm.[citation needed] Except for in the X5, it produces 245 kW (329 hp) at 6100 rpm and 450 N·m (330 lb·ft) at 3600 rpm.

Applications:
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2003-2006 E53 X5 4.4i- 235 kW (315 hp) at 6100 rpm and 440 N·m (320 lb·ft) at 3700 rpm
2003-2005 E60/E61 545i
2003-2007 E63/E64 645Ci
2005-2007 Morgan Aero 8 Series 2 and Series 3[2]

[edit] N62B48

The N62B48 has a displacement of 4,799 cc (293 cu in), a bore of 93 mm and a stroke of 88.3 mm.[citation needed] Except for in the X5, it produces 270 kW (360 hp) and 490 N·m (360 lb·ft).

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Old 12-06-2012, 03:06 PM
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Sadly that is wishful thinking, the major problem issues have remained right through the N62 V8 engines.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:32 PM
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I love my car and cant really see myself without her. She has been without health insurgence since 2010 with no problems "Knock On Wood".
If i do get rid of her it will only be because I found another that excites me more the she does.
There usually younger, better looking and more capable and eager to please....
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:31 PM
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Planning on keeping it. Been out of warranty for 14 months as well. Drove it 1,200 miles from San Francisco to LA then down to San Diego and back to SF earlier this week. Perfect car for that drive.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:26 PM
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I have my '07 for just a year now. I really like the style and I have no plans to change in the future. It's all I want in a car. I bought a 100k mile warranty to that should take me to at least 2015 for coverage.

My wife had an '06 530 and currently has the '12 528/F10. While the newer car has a bit of new styling, much better mileage, and is pretty peppy, it's basically the same car.

I think the same holds true for the 6er. I actually think over time our body style will gain in value, as the radical (at the time) styling is like an Armani suit. It won't look old or dated over time.

Anyone for a 3.0CSI?
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:00 AM
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Where can you buy this 100k warranty on an 07 BMW if I may ask?
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:54 AM
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If i do get rid of her it will only be because I found another that excites me more the she does.
There usually younger, better looking and more capable and eager to please....
Come on... That was funny....
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:08 AM
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Where can you buy this 100k warranty on an 07 BMW if I may ask?
Aftermarket warranty companies like mercury autopom. If you are recently coming off CPO you can also look into a bmw extended warranty.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:12 AM
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I bought the auto-POM and I'm about to use it for the first time. I'm taking it to the dealer and my SA says they have good results with them. The coverage varies by sate but I went with the Platinum policy.

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Old 12-07-2012, 09:21 AM
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I have my '07 for just a year now. I really like the style and I have no plans to change in the future. It's all I want in a car. I bought a 100k mile warranty to that should take me to at least 2015 for coverage.

My wife had an '06 530 and currently has the '12 528/F10. While the newer car has a bit of new styling, much better mileage, and is pretty peppy, it's basically the same car.

I think the same holds true for the 6er. I actually think over time our body style will gain in value, as the radical (at the time) styling is like an Armani suit. It won't look old or dated over time.

Anyone for a 3.0CSI?
Actually a number of car journalists and pundits have stated that the 6 series E63/64 shape has real potential to become a classic in years to come, in the UK they state that it will be the one with the 3.0ltr engine variant, interesting really!!!!
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:01 PM
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'05 645Ci convertible with 130,000 miles. I'll probably sell it before it hits 200,000.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:53 PM
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I have had my 2004 645Ci C manual transmission for a month and ~1,000 miles.

It's a bit special because it only had 6,100 miles on it when I bought it.

The only thing I could find wrong was the blotchy auto-dimming rearview mirror (Donnelly!). I have had the glass replaced.

The ARS alerted but topping up with Pentosin in the reservoir seems to have addressed that.

The FTM has alerted a couple of times. I have added air and am keeping an eye on it. It did happen just as the ambient temperature dropped.

I have had it to the local BMW dealer and they can find nothing wrong with it. They changed the oil, flushed the brakes and coolant and enabled bluetooth, as well as performing the battery cable recall.

I have bought a 7 year, 70,000 mile FWS Platinum warranty, so we will see how that goes.

I bought four 19" elipticals from another forum member, so now I have eight, which according to the posts here, should last me about as many months!

I appreciate what I have learnt from the forum so far and will share my experience going forward.
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:59 PM
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Well I bought mine a, 2009 with 44k, and I have about 1.5 months to decide whether to by a BMW extended warranty. Its $3,300.00 and gets me to July 2015 or 100k miles. So far under warranty I havehad the idrive controller replaced (cosmetic excessive wear), the door sill, wiper motor, and left c pillar cover (pitting).
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:17 PM
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I will keep forever!!!!!
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:31 PM
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Me too. Just put in my living room. 20 or 30 years later, I'll proudly tell my grandkids that how I rolled back in the days. Just like my ex host father and his 69 charger.
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:46 AM
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:08 PM
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I bought my 2010 new in Feb 2011. So far I have logged 41k miles with no real problems. Just put winter tires on and found out the original rubber will need to be replaced in the spring. It's been a rock so far with the only real issue was a trim piece that kept falling off from around the rear view mirror. I bought the extended maintenance but not the warranty as I drive about 25-30k a year and that just burns through the milage limitations way before the time allotments. It does seem like a lot of people due dwell on the "what if" scenarios about this car. Well wake up, when new it was not cheap, and like many other cars in this price range and higher some might have problems and some might not. If you can't imagine a big dollar repair then a warranty or a different car is for you. Machines are just that and no piece of paper is going to make it last any longer, but driving reasonably and doing proper maintenance when required by the OEM to me is a much better investment. I plan on keeping mine for many years to come as I think it is a great all around car for me. Just my thoughts...
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:15 PM
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I'm keeping my car because she has been with me for years already. We've been a heck of lot times already. In case there's a car that excites me i'll buy it. That is of course, if i have the resources. But i'm not ditching my old car.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:41 AM
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To further the point, have a look at this page. Notice how many BMW's there are. Love that Red 633 and the Red 3.0!

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Actually a number of car journalists and pundits have stated that the 6 series E63/64 shape has real potential to become a classic in years to come, in the UK they state that it will be the one with the 3.0ltr engine variant, interesting really!!!!
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:47 PM
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I own a 04 645ci with 61,000 miles on it. I have not purchased any coverage for her. I figured since obama was re-elected that there was a good chance that the gov would cover any issues under some new obama care program. Just kidding. I plan on keeping it and have no plans on purchasing any coverage anytime soon. I guess I am rolling the dice but it is not my primary car and hope that nothing major comes my way. I agree with the other post that most things read on these forums are going to be negative. The reason I purchased the car besides the bad ass looks was I own a 323i that has 225,000 miles on it and I drive it everyday. If the 6 provides the same reliability I see no reason to purchase additional coverage.
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I just bought a 2005 645CIC after my beloved 94 325I was totaled. The dealer offered a three year warranty, so I jumped on it. I too believe that really may not be a need for the warranty. My 325I had 187,000 on it before the accident and ran like a mother. I will say I didn't know what I was missing until I test drove this 645......I can never go back to a 3 series again, and to think I almost fell for a 2006 M3.
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Yeah, that was funny!
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I own a 04 645ci with 61,000 miles on it. I have not purchased any coverage for her. I figured since obama was re-elected that there was a good chance that the gov would cover any issues under some new obama care program.
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