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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 12-11-2012, 08:09 AM
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$15K is easy to hit when you are talking about a wiring harness, sensors and modules, programming, carpet and padding... now add the labor. I was at $14k+ the first time and insurance didnt total the car... at that time they were looking for 80% of the total value... funny since I only paid $17k for the car when i bought it! I couldnt imagine not having comprehensive like wallace06wagon though... these cars are way to expensive, and having gone through this twice, its way to much of a risk for a few bucks more monthly on insurance.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:03 AM
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Wallace, Ouch! Sorry to hear it's so expensive. Do you have homeowners insurance? Since it happened in your driveway you may be able to file a claim there. By the way, when this happened to me, the damage was only $4k I think, though BMW picked it up. Do you have another dealer nearby you can take it to for a second opinion?
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:55 PM
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Is this video from someone here? My apologies if that isn't an E60, I can't make out what model it is.

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Old 12-12-2012, 04:49 PM
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Looks like an E90 touring.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:57 PM
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Water in tire well

Hi Folks. Just had a similar water problem after heavy rains from hurricane Sandy. I have an '04 530i. Water leaked into the trunk and fried the PWP power module; took out the radio and no heads up display. After two trips to the dealer they finally found all four sun roof drains clogged. They had to take off the rear tires for access to blow air up the drain hoses to clear them. The module and radio were replaced, roof liner cleaned and an ozone generator was used to partially eliminate the odor of burned plastic caused by the fried module. Only $3700 but covered under insurance as wind damage from hurricane Sandy. Lesson learned - keep the drains clear.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:41 PM
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Just wondering if/how this damage happens if your sunroof is closed?
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:50 PM
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I am not sure if its been mentioned here or not, but how can I check if they are clogged or not. The temp is now way below the freezing point so I am not worried about water damage but its a good idea to check before the spring.
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:04 PM
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I am not sure if its been mentioned here or not, but how can I check if they are clogged or not. The temp is now way below the freezing point so I am not worried about water damage but its a good idea to check before the spring.
Yes, it's mentioned many times: park car with nose down and pour water in front vents and see if they drain and then vice versa for rear vents. Recommend you wait until it's above freezing...
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:42 PM
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Sunroof Drain Clog

The sunroof was closed. Dealer indicated the sunroof is not water tight necessitating drains to guide the water away from the seal? On the first trip to the dealer, they said the water was coming in from a plastic rivit on each side along the top edges of the trunk lip. This explaination seemed strange but I thought BMW should know about these issues. Their explaination didn't explain the water stains on the LR passenger headliner.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:59 PM
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Yes, it's mentioned many times: park car with nose down and pour water in front vents and see if they drain and then vice versa for rear vents. Recommend you wait until it's above freezing...
Thanks. Will check it out once the weather warms up.
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:26 PM
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Only pour water in the OUTSIDE drain channels...
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:58 PM
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Only pour water in the OUTSIDE drain channels...
You mean the outside ones that lead to the trunk, right beside the sunroof?
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:04 AM
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Yes, but there are channels - both inside and outside. The outside channels are meant to drain the sunroof to both front and rear R/L drains. You can pour water in the inside channel, but it will drain INSIDE the car by the footwells - a mistake I made ONCE (Lol)
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:28 PM
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Yes, but there are channels - both inside and outside. The outside channels are meant to drain the sunroof to both front and rear R/L drains. You can pour water in the inside channel, but it will drain INSIDE the car by the footwells - a mistake I made ONCE (Lol)
Cool, good to know. I wish there was a drawing the showed all these channels
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Old 12-20-2012, 01:23 PM
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Finally happened to my '06 530xi wagon...flooded tire well and fried the electronic compartment after I parked on my driveway during a recent rain storm. In short, BMW manufacturer, public relations (resolution unit) and the SF BMW dealership - all rejected my claim and denied any liability on leak damages due to "external factors". I'm stuck now since I don't have auto comprehensive insurance coverage. Much needed help and advice from anyone, please??? My car is still with the dealership and they said the repair estimate would cost around outrageously $15K. Thanks, Wallace from SF/Ca
Get your yourself an attorney. One with big cajones. You may want to find one that specializes in class action lawsuits, and he/she drives a Mercedes or Lexus.

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Old 12-23-2012, 07:13 AM
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2003 530i

I had flooding and ultimately it dissolved much of the wiring below the passenger seat, causing major electrical problems.

Morristown BMW originally diagnosed it as doorside vapor barrier, which they fixed for a hefty price.

I was parking my car outside constantly, so more flooding occured. Morristown BMW suggested I replace vapor barrier on other door and other electrical repair (quoted $2,500)

Denson automotive replaced the door side vapor barrier, eventually diagnosed the sunroof draining problem, replaced some wires below the passenger seat, and tuned up the car for $1,300.

Bottom line, flooding in the 530i is relatively common Morristown BMW (probably other dealers) will charge you and arm and a leg to replace items in your car, but don't have the ability to diagnose problems.

Many times, the problem is just a drain that you can fix yourself.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:49 AM
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Get your yourself an attorney. One with big cajones. You may want to find one that specializes in class action lawsuits, and he/she drives a Mercedes or Lexus.

Take a look at this attorney

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Megna
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:54 AM
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I was thinking about selling my 3 series wagon and get a 5 series wagon. Just not sure what I would get into maintenance wise . So far from searching forum I may just stick with the 3 for now.
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Old 12-23-2012, 08:56 AM
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A friend has a 530xi wagon. Apparently his sunroof drains got clogged and flooded his electronic compartment, causing a malfunction. Has anybody else experienced this? I have done a search and come up empty.

Thanks!
my car is in an independent shop since BMW dealer never takes an ownership of this design flaw!they have fixed this problem before and never brought a long term solution.
Furthermore they want more of my money......
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:57 AM
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Hello All,

We have just acquired an '09 528 for my wife and an '09 535Xi (wagon) for me. After reading about the sunroof drain issue (and having had similar issues on both of our previous E39s), I attempted to test the drains on both of our cars yesterday. Either they are both fine, or they both have problems in all four corners... Basically, I poured water in the outside tracks while having the cars on an incline (I did both directions). The water disappears quickly and seems to drain out in the door jambs in front of the front doors, and from an unknown place right behind the rear wheels. In both cases, the water seems to just "come out of the body" somewhere. Are these the correct locations for the water to drain, or do I need to look into this further?

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Old 01-22-2013, 04:43 PM
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my car is in an independent shop since BMW dealer never takes an ownership of this design flaw!they have fixed this problem before and never brought a long term solution.
Furthermore they want more of my money......
My indy fixed the problem except for the airbag warning light.

He doesn't want to touch that problem.
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Old 06-13-2013, 04:11 PM
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I can't believe how pervasive this problem is and how it seems that BMW and their dealers are doing nothing to fix it or help customers avoid problems. We have a 2008 535xi wagon and had battery and electrical damage a year ago - fortunately BMW picked up the tab. It happened again this past week only much worse in terms of symptoms and extent of damage. Estimate is 9,500. Service advisor said he's neverseenanything like it and didn't believe the tech until he saw for himself. BMW is not picking up the ts this time and is being of no help. Note that we had the car in for routine service and a couple of new tires a month ago, and you'd think they might include this issue in their regular vehicle checks.

Now in the process of further escalating with BMW and filing an insurance claim. And shopping for a different car. It's totally infuriating, and even more so since I've wanted a BMW since I was about 9 years old...30 years on I finally get one and I never want to see it again.
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Old 06-13-2013, 05:03 PM
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Is this problem in mostly the wagons? Or is it in all 5 series?
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:49 PM
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It's been all 5's according to the threads.
Okay but it seems to be mostly wagons and older 5's.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:19 PM
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I've had my 2006 530ix wagen which I bought used about a year ago, Love it and had no issues until ... my spouse drove it and came back shortly in a panic. Yep Electrical system failure and flat tire indicator. I went on the forum and discovered the sun roof issue and disassembled the covers on the wheel wells in the cargo compartment and there was about a 1/2 inch water in the tray on the passenger side. The felt covering was very damp and the cloth covering of the wiring harness was damp. Battery etc. under the tray did not feel wet. 've seen pictures of the MPM and I think it's on the driver's side well and not affected.Anybody have a clue what may have gotten fried and how much. I can't find any info on what's next to the battery. I took it in today to an Indie with a good recommendation on the forum for my area. On the way in, all things electrical bugged out for a few seconds dials spinning like possessed but car kept going and in a minute all was normal again only to have the warning lights all go off about 5 minutes later and then fine and later lights again. This seems like a very dangerous design flaw. I think they should have stuck with the leaking on your passenger when the sun roof was blocked like in my old 318i annoying but not dangerous or incredibly expensive.
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