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Old 12-25-2012, 06:23 PM
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e93 clock spring question - valentine 1 remote mute button

Howdy all. So I'm think of completely stealthing my v1 install in my e93. I've been doing tons of research. My question today involves installing a mute button on the steering wheel itself. The best way to do this would be through the clock spring, right? So that the wiring doesn't twisted and broken but is totally hidden. My e93 is a manual transmission with no wheel heating. I'm using all the current buttons. Well maybe not the air circulation one but I'm planning on a new button, here.

On the e46, I've read, if you have an SMG clock spring on your manual transmission, you have an extra 2 wires run through the clockspring. Here they show pics of the SMG clock spring (or coil spring) that has 2 connectors that the same part number for a non smg does doesn't have. A poster in that thread, 320de46m47, says that if you order the part it will come with the connector which, if I was working on an e46, I could then use to wire the remote mute.

So first q is, are there unused connections in the steering wheel of the e93 m3 that I could use - does anyone know the wiring layout? Maybe because I don't have a heated wheel, he asks hopefully....?

Second q is, is the e93 like the e46 in that - if I purchase a clock spring cartridge (part 61319122509 I think), will it have unused (maybe paddle?) connections that I could use for the remote mute?

Thanks for your constructive and experienced advice.

from the other board's thread, two pics: e46 smg clock spring and non-smg. extra two connectors on smg, even though they're the same part number! Credit to
320de46m47 at http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=571539_a_
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:49 PM
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Maybe you just need to reprogram your V1 so you don't get so many false alarms.

or do you really get so many true alarms where you drive that you need a more handy mute button?
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:08 AM
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When I put in my Electronic Performance Steering wheel, it came with a replacement clockspring plug with a few extra connections for wiring to the performance wheel, so that could give you the extra connections you seek. This thread shows the install of the perf steering wheel with the extra connectors http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244795 probably not a cheap option though to get the added parts, but might not be too crazy.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:34 AM
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Howdy all. So I'm think of completely stealthing my v1 install in my e93. I've been doing tons of research. My question today involves installing a mute button on the steering wheel itself. The best way to do this would be through the clock spring, right? So that the wiring doesn't twisted and broken but is totally hidden. My e93 is a manual transmission with no wheel heating. I'm using all the current buttons. Well maybe not the air circulation one but I'm planning on a new button, here.

On the e46, I've read, if you have an SMG clock spring on your manual transmission, you have an extra 2 wires run through the clockspring. Here they show pics of the SMG clock spring (or coil spring) that has 2 connectors that the same part number for a non smg does doesn't have. A poster in that thread, 320de46m47, says that if you order the part it will come with the connector which, if I was working on an e46, I could then use to wire the remote mute.

So first q is, are there unused connections in the steering wheel of the e93 m3 that I could use - does anyone know the wiring layout? Maybe because I don't have a heated wheel, he asks hopefully....?

Second q is, is the e93 like the e46 in that - if I purchase a clock spring cartridge (part 61319122509 I think), will it have unused (maybe paddle?) connections that I could use for the remote mute?

Thanks for your constructive and experienced advice.

from the other board's thread, two pics: e46 smg clock spring and non-smg. extra two connectors on smg, even though they're the same part number! Credit to
320de46m47 at http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=571539_a_

Doubtless, you have done this.

So. For TRUE STEALTH, make steering wheel paddles your V1 remote switches!

Using one paddle as on/off and the other for Mute, your discretion is assured. If you are totally cool and capable, you'll make each switch multifunctional with readout in the center display.

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Old 12-28-2012, 10:11 AM
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When I put in my Electronic Performance Steering wheel, it came with a replacement clockspring plug with a few extra connections for wiring to the performance wheel, so that could give you the extra connections you seek. This thread shows the install of the perf steering wheel with the extra connectors http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244795 probably not a cheap option though to get the added parts, but might not be too crazy.
That's exactly what I want to do! I wonder if they put more ribbon cable inside of the clock spring or if they just ran some wires through it? Have any sense of it?
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:14 AM
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Doubtless, you have done this.

So. For TRUE STEALTH, make steering wheel paddles your V1 remote switches!

Using one paddle as on/off and the other for Mute, your discretion is assured. If you are totally cool and capable, you'll make each switch multifunctional with readout in the center display.

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Thanks for responding, that's an interesting idea about the paddles. I think the paddles might look a little silly in a MT but hey, maybe I could get one paddle to mute and the other to, say, leap forward suddenly!

Not sure about the google search you offered though. Putting the display in the mirror is not very stealthy. I'm planning on integrating the displays into my instrument cluster if I work up the balls to slice it up a bit.... Something along the line of what this guy did!
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthrea...er-61800.html?
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:22 AM
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Maybe you just need to reprogram your V1 so you don't get so many false alarms.

or do you really get so many true alarms where you drive that you need a more handy mute button?
In terms of muting the alarm, it doesn't matter to me whether the alarm is false or real! If it's false I want the alarm to be quiet; if it's real I want the alarm to be quiet and I'll watch the lights.

However I was thinking more along the lines of slower suburban/urban driving, where there's falses or speed cameras. But I think I may just get the Savvy, which apparently keeps the volume off when you're driving at slower speeds.

Either way however I, and probably most people who use detectors, want access to a mute button from time to time ;-)
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:51 AM
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That's exactly what I want to do! I wonder if they put more ribbon cable inside of the clock spring or if they just ran some wires through it? Have any sense of it?
So in the back of the clock spring where the connect plugs into it, they add more wires, 2 more I think, then the new clock spring has that new extra plug that hands out near where the other 2 plugs plug into the front of the clock spring given the extra connections so the electronic wheel. So basically the new clock spring allows for 2 more connections.

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Thanks for responding, that's an interesting idea about the paddles. I think the paddles might look a little silly in a MT but hey, maybe I could get one paddle to mute and the other to, say, leap forward suddenly!

Not sure about the google search you offered though. Putting the display in the mirror is not very stealthy. I'm planning on integrating the displays into my instrument cluster if I work up the balls to slice it up a bit.... Something along the line of what this guy did!
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthrea...er-61800.html?

[1] Not so! A unique appearance certain to enhance resale.

[2] Use 2 way mirror glass, like in interrogation rooms. Trick!
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In terms of muting the alarm, it doesn't matter to me whether the alarm is false or real! If it's false I want the alarm to be quiet; if it's real I want the alarm to be quiet and I'll watch the lights.

However I was thinking more along the lines of slower suburban/urban driving, where there's falses or speed cameras. But I think I may just get the Savvy, which apparently keeps the volume off when you're driving at slower speeds.

Either way however I, and probably most people who use detectors, want access to a mute button from time to time ;-)
That's cool. I just wanted to add that when I first got my V1 it was always going off and I used the mute button all the time. Then I reprogrammed it, turning off K, X and laser, just leaving Ka (that's what CHP uses). Now I hardly ever get alarms except when a chipper's shooting oncoming traffic on the freeway. That's fine for me. I also have the automute turned on, so it only sounds the audible alarm for a short period, then it's just lights after that.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:06 AM
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That's cool. I just wanted to add that when I first got my V1 it was always going off and I used the mute button all the time. Then I reprogrammed it, turning off K, X and laser, just leaving Ka (that's what CHP uses). Now I hardly ever get alarms except when a chipper's shooting oncoming traffic on the freeway. That's fine for me. I also have the automute turned on, so it only sounds the audible alarm for a short period, then it's just lights after that.
Thanks for suggesting those settings. Actually I just downloaded the pdf a few days ago listing all of those settings and much more: http://www.valentine1.com/Lab/TechReport3.asp Click 'printer friendly' at the top or bottom and I think it'll give you a download in .pdf.

I'm going to turn off laser and X: Laser, because the unit can't sense it anyway after I install it in the headrest, and X because they don't use it around here. BTW here is one list of the bands used by police by town and state (there are a few online): http://www.patzcatz.com/radarbands.html

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