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Old 03-29-2010, 03:00 PM
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Now that the price is up to $60k, I am going to drop $50k. I'd rather put $50k cash in a bmw than lose $30k chasing BoA stock. Honestly though, the whole $50k has come from liquidating some of my portfolio. Bought a condo and now a car. Let the market crash after that and I'll cry, but I won't have to worry about payments, trust me!
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Old 03-30-2010, 05:59 AM
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Thanks for the heads-up. The dealers have told me there is less negotiation if I wait for a 2011. When I checked Edmunds, as suggested above, others are paying $49703. Should I subtract the $2500 from that amount, or does that include the $2500 discount?

The invoice, according to Edmunds is $48,200. I assume trying to negotiate that low is not realistic?
There is always room for negotiation. Remember, you should pay:
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- factor incentives

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Old 03-30-2010, 06:02 AM
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People are ordering 2011s now and are reporting deals at $500 to $1500 over invoice. You are in a competitive market, so you could probably get a 2011 for invoice +$1000, more or less. That suggests that you shouldn't be paying very much above invoice for a 2010, or even at or below invoice if you hang tough and your dealer wants to unload the car.


As suggested above, you will probably pay a bit more for a 2011 vs. 2010, but not as much more as your dealer wants you to think. And when it comes time for resale, assuming you sell 3 or 4 years after delivery either way, the difference in depreciation will be MUCH greater on a 2010 vs. 2011 (that is, MUCH greater than the difference in purchase price), because it will be treated by the schedules as one year older than the 2011, even though you might have bought either one at the same time.
If he is going to sell in 3 years then he should just lease. Makes life that much easier. The difference in depreciation won't be MUCH greater...it will be exactly one year greater.

If people are reportin****** of 500 - 1500 on top of invoice then I would negotiate 500 only
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:06 AM
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The quotes I am getting for the 2011's are $5k to $10k more. Will there be any 2011 incentives? All the dealers are giving astronomical quotes.

Is the difference between the 2010 and 2011 that great?
Ok, this is the only advice you need to buy a car.
Find the invoice price, add $500 to it, subtract dealer incentives, add tax/title. That's the number you tell your dealer is the out-the-door price. If they don't like it go to the next guy. It's a brand new car - you have an entire country you can shop from. Once a dealer says "yup" you take that offer and go to your local dealer and say "i have this other guy who wants to sell me at X, I would prefer to work with you, are you willing to beat said price?"
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Old 03-30-2010, 11:55 AM
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A friend of mine just ordered a 2011 e92 at invoice minus 200. No MACO or dealer fees. I was totally shocked. In addition, he's getting the program credit (1305 or 1840 -- I can't remember if he was getting xdrive)

Total price = invoice - 200 + sales tax + title/tags/registration
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:53 PM
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Wood or aluminum interior trim? Which looks more sporty?
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Old 03-31-2010, 09:03 PM
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Buy a used one man...thats so much coin to throw at a damn car...the 07 and 08s can be had for $35K or less...why spend $55K!!!! not worth the money, no car is..

We just bought a 07 MDX loaded w/18K miles and paid $36K certified Acura..let me tell you, I love it, but I wouldnt feel like it was worth the almost $50K new if I bought it new...and its a really nice SUV with Nav, dvd, and sport package..now paying $50K for a little coupe?
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Old 03-31-2010, 09:21 PM
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It's only money man lol and personally I wouldn't want a BMW that someone has alreay driven to be honest.... But everyone has their own opinion and stuff! BMW kicks ass
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:11 PM
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People are ordering 2011s now and are reporting deals at $500 to $1500 over invoice. You are in a competitive market, so you could probably get a 2011 for invoice +$1000, more or less. That suggests that you shouldn't be paying very much above invoice for a 2010, or even at or below invoice if you hang tough and your dealer wants to unload the car.

+1 -- you also have a lot of dealers where you are - so you should be playing them off one another. Compile a list of the bmw dealerships in a 30 to 50 mile radius of Boston. Call all the dealerships and ask for the name and email address of the "fleet" or "internet sales manager" -- or similar. Then email each one with what you want, and tell them what type of deal you're looking for (you can give a range - "$250 to $650 over invoice"). At least one of them will likely hit your number or offer something just a little more over invoice. Then, once you've narrowed it down to one or two dealerships that will "play ball" insist on getting an "out the door" price. An "out the door" price, including taxes, registration etc. is crucial -- otherwise the dealership will try to stick it to you and make up the difference in bogus fees and costs.

This method works, because I used it, and if you research a bit on the internets you'll see that others recommend the same or similar techniques.

Best of luck!
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:25 AM
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Thats a terrible price. you should at least go to edmunds.com and plug all that stuff in see what it brings up and then ask for even lower price and go to more than one dealer and make them all work against each other.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:58 AM
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Wow, my car is now 30 months old with 20k miles on it. The assistance I received here in buying my dream car was invaluable and is a story I've retold many times to perspective BMW owners. People love my fully loaded 2011 335 xi. My original plan had been to trade it in for an M6 after 2 years, but that has proven to be cost prohibitive, or just too decadent. I love my car and driving it into the ground for the next 5 years isn't a horrible prospect, but I also worry about losing leverage if I do decide to trade it in for maybe an M3. BMW started calling at 2 years to encourage me to trade it in, but their main incentive is to keep the same car payments, which is no incentive for me since I paid cash.

So, my question is, at 2.5 years, should I continue to try to keep the mileage low for a future trade-in, or has that ship passed? 6 months ago I stopped driving it to work, so I've only put 1000 miles on it in the past 6 months. Watching it go over the 19,500 mark was tough. :-)




Design/MSRP
Description MSRP
Model 1152 335i xDrive Coupe USD 44,550.00
Color 354 Titanium Silver Metallic 550.00
Upholstery LCSW Black Dakota Leather N/C
Options ZCV Convenience Package 1,500.00
302 Anti-theft alarm system N/C
322 Comfort Access keyless entry N/C
415 Power rear sunshade N/C
508 Park Distance Control N/C
ZMP M Sport Package 3,000.00
840 Increased top speed limiter N/C
ZPP Premium Package 2,650.00
319 Universal garage-door opener N/C
430 Auto-dimming interior and exterior mirrors N/C
431 Auto-dimming rearview mirror N/C
488 Lumbar support N/C
4NA Digital compass mirror N/C
639 BMW Assist with Bluetooth N/C
203 All-wheel-drive N/C
205 STEPTRONIC automatic transmission 1,375.00
337 M Sport Package N/C
2MF 18" Light alloy Star-spoke wheels (Style193... N/C
481 Sport seats N/C
4BY†Bamboo Anthracite Wood trim N/C
715 Aerodynamic kit N/C
760 Shadowline exterior trim N/C
775 Anthracite headliner N/C
7XA†M Sports leather steering wheel with pa... 100.00
494 Heated front seats 500.00
609 Navigation system 2,100.00
615 Online Information Services N/C
620 Voice-command N/C
655 Satellite radio with 1 year subscription 350.00
688 Harman Kardon surround sound system 875.00
6AA BMW TeleServices N/C
6AB TeleService Control N/C
6FL iPod and USB adapter 400.00
6NF Smartphone Integration 150.00
6UH Real Time Traffic Information N/C
Net Total 58,100.00
Destination Charge 875.00
Gas Guzzler Tax N/C
Total Suggested Price 58,975.00
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:31 AM
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Don't worry about the mileage! You bought the car to enjoy, start driving it to work again. I bought my 335i at the same time as you for cash and plan to keep it until it is no longer reliable. You are saving more money by just keeping it than buying a new one, so enjoy it and don't worry about the mileage. It won't have a huge impact on resale value.
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:17 PM
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Equivalent 2013 435xi to my 2011 335xi

My car is almost 4 years old and so the warranty needs to be renewed by May which is an incentive for me to buy a new car.

I now have 23k for mileage. I priced the 435xi on the BMWUSA web site with the same or similar features I currently have and was surprised to see the price is now $10k more.

This forum was tremendously helpful when I bought my first car, so I have been reading all weekend so that I don't ask repetitive questions. Before I contact a dealer I decided to inquire here first so that I negotiate as an informed buyer. Last time you guys saved me $2500 for a rebate the dealer never told me about.

I also looked at the Maserati Ghibli, but after adding the features, it became too expensive. Same for my coveted 6 series. :-)

In the meantime, I'll keep reading the forum to educate myself.

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Old 01-18-2014, 09:22 PM
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Trade-in value of my current car

Sorry, I didn't ask the main question. How much should I expect for a trade-in? The car is in great shape, no dents. I have never been in an accident and have gone in for all the check-ins.

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Old 01-21-2014, 05:08 PM
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Trade-in

An appraiser told me to check www.nada.com to find out what the trade-in value of my car is. I was disappointed that it was about $34k. I was expecting it to be higher.
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Run some used car price calculators like the one on Edmunds & take it to CarMax for a cash buy offer. Then see what the dealer will do on the trade. At the dealer you need to keep the new car buy & the old car trade as two separate items so you don't get rolled
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