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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 12-24-2012, 03:21 AM
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E39 99+ rear window regulator options

Hi

Well my rear driver window regulator went, looks like something with cable drive which mangled cable a bit. So it needs a new regulator.

Looking around there seems to be 3 options:
1) OEM part, inc motor ~250
2) dap ~150
3) uro ~100

The suggestion on here is uro is not very good quality and most mention early failure. Haven't found any mention dap.

Does any one have personal experience of dap/uro?

Trying to figure out if it better to pay money for OEM one or try save a bit of money.

Thanks.
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Old 12-24-2012, 08:09 AM
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OEM has a metal moving piece, but still a crap plastic lower securing point for the glass, while URO is completely plastic.

My PO put a URO on my rear window, and the regulator itself is good, but the motor crapped out , i was a bit hasty on eBay and bought another URO one, but since it's the rear window I wont put too much thought into it... OEM or not, all the regulators suck.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:31 AM
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Hi Mbel,

look at this page: http://www.idealautoteile.com/categories/BMW/E39/
They offer a lot of different window regulator repair kits for a very fair price!
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:42 AM
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Thanks, yeah think they all probably suck just case of suckiness v cost. Those parts look like good option but appear to be for the 97 to 99 regulators so won't fit mine.

Also found a dorman one for ~115, this comes to be redesigned updated part. So might well give that a go.
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:53 AM
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I used this one http://www.dependable-autoparts.com/...dow-regulator/ Shipping and all it was less than $60.

So far so good and it appeared to be of heavier construction than the OEM that I removed. It didn't come with a motor so I reused the OEM motor. Keeping my fingers crossed. Good luck.
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:57 AM
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Oh, I just noticed that it doesn't fit 1999 model, but it appears that they have some on their site that do. Best of luck.
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mbell666 View Post
Looking around there seems to be 3 options:
1) OEM part, inc motor ~250
2) dap ~150
3) uro ~100
I just did research for my front window regulator - and I came up with these about a month ago (most 'should' apply to the rears, I would think):

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I will search for regulator suppliers ... so ... if you have experience with particular brands and suppliers ... please let me know.

- Supplier prices lookup comparison engine (1) & BMW salvage (junkyard) parts lookup engine (1) & BMWfans search by part number (bmwfans.info parts catalog) & Realoem nominal prices by part number (1) & EACTuning actual prices by part number (1) & BMW of South Atlanta actual prices by part number (1) & Maxmillian BMW dealer prices by part number (1) & the most often recommended parts suppliers (1) & what BMW E39 parts & supplies are best to buy OEM (1) & joining BMWCCA to lower parts costs (1) (2) & what parts to always get OEM (1) which BMW dealers match prices (1) & in situ pictures of common parts of the M54 engine (1)

EDIT: Seems like the following brands are available:
  • OE 51 33 8 252 393 (Kuster is the original brand name on mine) 51338252393
  • A1 Cardone 82-2134A
  • Action Crash 1032-04050415
  • Dorman #: 740-478 or #740478
  • Hollander #: 125-58598L
  • JL Germany (Bavauto seems to sell this)
  • Partslink #: BM1350103
  • Replacement B462922 (The Parts Bin & DriveWire & auto parts warehouse seem to sell this)
  • Üro Parts 51338252393 (BMA, AutoHauzAZ, Amazon, seem to sell this)
  • VDO/Siemens (Amazon seems to sell this)
  • World Source One W0133-1601605
  • ? what others ?
Note: The driver-side front regulator seems to go by two different part numbers: OLD: 51338236859 NEW: 51338252393
Note: Part #51338252393 is for the front left, driver side; while part #51338252394 is for the front right, passenger side.
Note: E39 models built before 9/1997 apparently used a slightly different mounting method than later models do (mine is a 2002).
Note: It's interesting that Turner Motorsports has multiple items of the exact same price & brand as "The Parts Bin" (URL not provided as it is asterisked out when I type it as a single word).

Note: Here is a typical supplier's picture of the OEM brand (Kuster).
  • Notice I flipped all the pictures so as to always show the true orientation (most suppliers show it upside down)
  • Notice the white plastic take-up spool assembly is tie wrapped to the metal motor plate so I presume we need to re-use both the old motor and the five screws which held the old take-up-spool mechanism to the metal motor plate
  • We probably need to re-use the three T25 bolts at top which don't show in this picture
  • The two bottom 10mm bolts seem to come with the window regulator
  • The two window clamps seem to come with the regulator (each clamp has a T25 bolt, rubber "edge protector", T20 bolt, and the plastic window stop)
  • The regulator appears to come with the T20 bolt and clip at the center (which clips the bottom portion of the motor plate to the door)
  • The small rubber stopper on the motor plate seems to come with the regulator (this is a separate part number in realoem diagrams)
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See also: E39 Bestlinks & How to easily find what you need
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:58 PM
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I bought a regulator from dependable auto for my 2000 E39 rear door, and it failed in less than a month. They refused to replace it, stating the warranty was only 30 days. Not only is the part junk, they don't stand behind them. I would recomend trying somewhere else.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:08 PM
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Dependable auto sells on ebay as a DAP part for 29.39 with a 30 day warranty, and on their website direct for 55.90 with a 45 day warranty. i received the part on 11-15, installed the first or second week of December, and it failed yesterday. The window works feely with no restrictions.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:09 PM
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I bought a regulator from dependable auto for my 2000 E39 rear door, and it failed in less than a month. They refused to replace it, stating the warranty was only 30 days. Not only is the part junk, they don't stand behind them. I would recomend trying somewhere else.
I'm actually having trouble with mine too ... so maybe we need to strike them from the list. Dunno yet as I haven't re-opened the door panel yet.
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Old 12-30-2012, 08:35 AM
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I went for the dorman one for ~$115. It seems to be decent enough quality, no obvious differences to oem and is made in Taiwan. Fitting it went fine, window is working now but seems a bit louder ( motor straining noise) than before. Will see how it lasts and report back any problems.

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Old 12-30-2012, 09:20 AM
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Just changed mine (01 525). First replacement came from Autozone because it was in stock. Lasted about 1 week till heard the spool starting to slip. Was loud and sounded cheap and cost was $260 (was after market).
2nd replacement came from Turner Motor Sport same price but was OEM BMW.
Spend the $ it's a pain to change.
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:32 AM
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A duplicate thread was opened today so I paste the OP here for reference ...
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Hello Guys - It appears my front passenger side window regulator is about to go out - looking to replace it and I found one thru a company called Uro for about 89$ where as I can get the OEM one for 147$ -- wondering if anyone has used the Uro version and whether its worth it to save a few bucks - your input is appreciated.
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