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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 01-03-2013, 10:04 PM
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Question about slip ring/clock spring...

Good day Gents,
My clock spring/slip ring finally gave up on me! No surprises there since the car has over 175,000 miles ( 97 528i ) in it and has not had the clock spring replaced! Anyway, every control in the steering wheel had stopped functioning and I'm most certain, the slip ring is the culprit ( unless someone might suggest as the ignition failing system )! It's not that hard to replace a clock spring as I was told but of course, it's better to ask the forum members for opinions and such before I do the task. Here goes...after I loosen the torx screw that holds the airbag, straighten up the steering wheel, unhook the battery cables, slowly uplug the wires from behind the airbag, remove the 16 mm bolt that holds the steering wheel...what kind of reaction would I expect from the clock spring that is mounted behind the steering wheel? Will it jump out or uncoil?
Not quite sure what to expect...really...so if any of you pros has done this before, kindly give me some clarification for I don't want to break anything!
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:54 AM
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Nothing to worry about. The clock spring will be retained by four tots screws and four wiring connectors. Nothing will spring out. Take a look at this post to get an idea of what you"ll be looking at:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...&postcount=249
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:57 AM
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Most clockspring works the same principle.

I replaced the clockspring in my 98 Volvo V70 and here are the points:
- Basically the SW turns about 5.5-6.0 complete revolutions.
- So you need to set the SW in straight ahead position, d/c battery, remove air bag.
- Then once you install the clockpsirng, it has to be "pinned" in neutral position, about 2.75 turns from either side.
- Then SW goes back in, then unpin the clockspring.

READ this Volvo write-up that I did a while back and you will understand it. Most cars have the same setup:

http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/for...ic.php?t=34639
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:01 AM
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Also, check this E36 thread by "Graham E39 528i":
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1807368
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:18 AM
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Great! Very much appreciated fellas! Will give updates as soon as it's done!
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:51 PM
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fml different slipring holder

Oh no, my 99 (but parts here and there say 1998) has a total different slip ring bracket holder!

http://s27.postimg.org/8xgrq5lmr/20160222_193920.jpg



I guess this is not happening. Wonder if I can find one that will fit....

I guess heated steering wheels only happened after 2001?

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Old 02-22-2016, 07:45 PM
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I just retrofitted a heated wheel to a 98 so they are available
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Old 02-22-2016, 08:32 PM
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I just retrofitted a heated wheel to a 98 so they are available
Really? Do you remember it looking rectangular fit like mine?

I hope it's possible, Philadelphia winters are no joke. You can keep your coat on but your hands and fingers stay cold even when the rest of the car is heated.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:14 PM
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Just read a wiki for the 8 series that has the same looking mounting bracket. The slip ring is installed in the back of the steering wheel and not in the steering column with the wiper control arms.

"In more recent years the*slip ring*was moved from the steering wheel to the steering column. These steering wheels cannot be installed in the E31 without considerable modifications and machining of the steering wheel base. Worse is that no compatible single-stage airbags are available for these recent steering wheels. In other words; with some effort the steering wheels can be installed in the E31, but the airbag will never work properly."

http://e31wiki.org/wiki/Steering_wheel_swap

I'm pretty bummed out. Looks like I can't retrofit this heated wheel into my 99 with the old bracket.
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Old 02-23-2016, 04:54 AM
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I have a 99 528i also with the same plastic bracket as you with a heated standard four spoke wheel.

I have an extra working heated wheel but the leather is missing at the 12:00 position. The heat still works, I'm currently using it. I am swapping wheels out tomorrow.

I can send pics of the differences in the wheels, clock springs and mounts for the 99 and 00. I got the 00 stuff at a junk yard but figure a way to use it without doing all of the modification as you've seen. The 00 three spoke isn't heated anyway. Well, I might be able to get it to work if I can get the lock cylinder out of the 00 mount with no key......
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Old 02-23-2016, 05:08 AM
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Part numbers for pre 3/99 build date (single stage airbags)
These are the parts you need to buy to retrofit a heated wheel.

Heated Wheel 32341094260
Heated wheel slip ring 32341094262
Contact pins 32311091732
switch (w/ heat button) 61316933855

Just for completeness for anyone running across this thread, power comes from pin 9 of the ignition switch via fuse 34 (10A) to the green wires of the contact pins, brown wires are ground. I actually ran directly from pin 9 to the contact pins using an inline fuse rather than fish wires behind the dash.

Just for reference.
Std slip ring 32341094261
Std wheel 32341094259
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Old 02-23-2016, 06:44 AM
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I have a 99 528i also with the same plastic bracket as you with a heated standard four spoke wheel.

I have an extra working heated wheel but the leather is missing at the 12:00 position. The heat still works, I'm currently using it. I am swapping wheels out tomorrow.
Thanks for the info. If you do have an extra heated wheel that can fit the single stage brackert would you mind selling it to me? It's better to have both the wheel and the slip ring that came with it rather than ordering them separately. Think you can PM me?
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Old 02-23-2016, 03:19 PM
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My mistake. My 99 528i has the later style wheel and dual airbag set up. I could have sworn I checked it months ago and thought it was the earlier style even though my production is 5/99.
I ended up using the rewrapped heated wheel in my 95 525i. Of course The controls don't work but I knew they wouldn't. I swapped in a crappy condition three spoke sport wheel I picked up at the junk yard which I didn't think I could use into the 99. No heat though.

I'll PM you anyway, not sure if I like this wheel in the 95. I just wrapped it last week with a black Wheel skins cover to make it thicker and try some stitching. The leather on this one is still good underneath.
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Old 02-24-2016, 05:04 AM
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complete set up (wheel, slip ring, switches and contact pin). Not great condition but a good price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bmw-E38-e39-...9WlgdO&vxp=mtr
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Old 02-24-2016, 06:21 AM
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complete set up (wheel, slip ring, switches and contact pin). Not great condition but a good price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bmw-E38-e39-...9WlgdO&vxp=mtr
Actually that's probably one of the best deals I've seen. I guess this older style is much cheaper than the new one with the separate slip ring control arm housing.

Funny thing back in 08 I first bought an '03 530i with the sports package 3 spoke new sport steering wheel, and heated seats with the leg extension. Sold it when I moved to Japan, then the gf and I needed a station wagon and naturally I went with an E39. Didn't have such options but I knew they were doable. Never thought so many little things would get on the way. Best advice is to stuck with the latest year the model was made, in this case '03.
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