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Old 01-08-2013, 09:47 AM
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Good Deal Or Bad Deal ?

Hi Guys - Wanted your expertise. I am in the market for a 5 series as I love the styling & the BMW technology. I found one, here is the deal. Please let me know Yea or Nay

2011 535i X Drive
Jet Black
Cinnomon Interior
3400 Miles (Almost brand new)
Cold Weather Package
Premium Package
Sports Transmission (Paddle Shifters)
Premium Package 2
Sports Package
Price : $45,700

Trade : 2008 X5 3.0
Sapphire Black
Black Leather
Rear Entertainment
19" M Wheels
27,500 Miles
Trade Allowance : $28,000

Should I pull the trigger. Please let me know. All your advise is greatly appreciated.

Sam
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:13 AM
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I would stay away from the 2011 model year.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:17 AM
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Thanks X, can you elaborate. I would love some insight.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:22 AM
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The 2011 is a first year model for the F10, it has its share of minor problems, steering vibration, tire bubbles, warp rims, tip in delay, etc................
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:05 AM
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The problems with the 2011's were generally early production vehicles. They actually had what many consider better configuration of options.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:05 AM
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I'd agree with X. Although I have never driven a 2011, all the complaints here about the tip in delay (hesitation when accelerating) would steer me clear. There are lots of things I can put up with, but throttle delay is not one of them.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:32 AM
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Thanks all for your responses. Is this "tip in delay" only happening on the early production 2011 MY. My cars production is April '11 is that considered early production. Please let me know. Also what do you guys think about the numbers of the deal.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:55 AM
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The 2011 is a first year model for the F10, it has its share of minor problems, steering vibration, tire bubbles, warp rims, tip in delay, etc................
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Dont take the risk. There are plenty of cars out there - be careful to fall in love especially with a 2 year old car that only has 3K miles on it.
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:39 AM
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Dealer demo or private sale ?

Car fax info ?
So many things to consider
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:56 AM
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Its at a bentley Rolls dealer in NJ. The carfax/Autocheck checks out fine.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:22 PM
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Keep looking....tons of stuff out there..

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$45k for a 2 year old non-cpo car vs $58 for new ($51k for ED).

Even though the price is below KBB, if I was in the market for that car, I wouldn't be moved to purchase. Especially a first model.

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Old 01-09-2013, 01:05 PM
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I might be a little coccerned with a car getting traded that early but you still have remaining factory warranty

Do your homework on the car & both prices you got to be real sure thata a lot of money for a used car
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Old 01-10-2013, 08:28 AM
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Sam this is what i got for 48500 out the door:

car has 29,800 miles, one owner, clean car fax, California driven

2011 535i CPO 100K warranty: with the following options

PREMIUM PKG
SPORT PKG -inc: 19" alloy wheels with new tires.
8-SPEED SPORT AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
REAR-VIEW CAMERA
HEATED FRONT SEATS
ANTHRACITE WOOD INTERIOR TRIM
FRONT & REAR PARK DISTANCE CONTROL
HARD DRIVE-BASED NAVIGATION SYSTEM
SIRIUS SATELLITE RADIO
IPOD & USB ADAPTER

ill post some pics later

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Old 01-10-2013, 09:36 AM
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I can't comment on the price or condition, but I can comment on the car since I own one that is a Jan 2011 build. It has more options as shown below and the MSRP was $73,000. The 19" LS2 tires that come with the iX sport package are a potential problem as you can see from the "Consolidated RFT Failures/Issues Thread" in this forum. A lot of us have changed the tires to a different size and have not experienced any more problems. At $400 or so per tire, you have to figure the cost into the price you pay.

The tire problems seemed to occur more in the 2010-2011 and early 2012 time periods than after that time. This may be because the tires were improved after that or the roads were improved (they were really bad in the winter of 2010-11) or perhaps some changes in the dynamic suspension were incorporated. You didn't list the dynamic suspension so that's not a concern.

The tip in problem was not severe with my car and seems to have been solved with the latest software update. Whether you can get BMW to update your software is another question that is addressed in this thread. The update seems to have worked for me so far, but I don't have enough mileage since the update to be sure. If you like the throttle response of the car that you are looking at, then you don't have a problem.

The steering problem was never there on the X-drive cars which in 2011 incorporated hydraulic steering instead of the then problematic electric steering on the RWD cars. The 2013 X-drive models incorporate electric steering, but I prefer the hydraulic version. I don't know which version the 2012 models have.

Other than the tires, the car has been good to me after 18,000 miles and two years. If the price and condition are right for you, I would go for it.

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Old 01-10-2013, 10:25 AM
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Just my two cents, but I have a 2011 535XI-M-Sport June build that has given me absolutely zero problems. Most trouble free car I've ever owned. That includes Lexus, Infiniti, Audi and other BMW models. I would not shy away from a 2011 with low mileage if you can pick it up at a good price. Just make sure it was built later in the model. Probably some good deals out in the market right now.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:40 AM
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I can't comment on the price or condition, but I can comment on the car since I own one that is a Jan 2011 build. It has more options as shown below and the MSRP was $73,000. The 19" LS2 tires that come with the iX sport package are a potential problem as you can see from the "Consolidated RFT Failures/Issues Thread" in this forum. A lot of us have changed the tires to a different size and have not experienced any more problems. At $400 or so per tire, you have to figure the cost into the price you pay.

The tire problems seemed to occur more in the 2010-2011 and early 2012 time periods than after that time. This may be because the tires were improved after that or the roads were improved (they were really bad in the winter of 2010-11) or perhaps some changes in the dynamic suspension were incorporated. You didn't list the dynamic suspension so that's not a concern.

The tip in problem was not severe with my car and seems to have been solved with the latest software update. Whether you can get BMW to update your software is another question that is addressed in this thread. The update seems to have worked for me so far, but I don't have enough mileage since the update to be sure. If you like the throttle response of the car that you are looking at, then you don't have a problem.

The steering problem was never there on the X-drive cars which in 2011 incorporated hydraulic steering instead of the then problematic electric steering on the RWD cars. The 2013 X-drive models incorporate electric steering, but I prefer the hydraulic version. I don't know which version the 2012 models have.

Other than the tires, the car has been good to me after 18,000 miles and two years. If the price and condition are right for you, I would go for it.

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Sport Package
Sport automatic transmission with shift paddles
Dynamic Handling Package
Active Ventilated Seat Package
Driver Assistance Package
Fold down rear seats
Side and top View Cameras
4-zone automatic climate control
Active ventilated seat package
Cold Weather Package
Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply. I have decided to purchase the car and will be picking it up today, will surely post pics. I looked around and this deal was too good to pass up. I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope I don't have the several problems listed.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:41 AM
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Just my two cents, but I have a 2011 535XI-M-Sport June build that has given me absolutely zero problems. Most trouble free car I've ever owned. That includes Lexus, Infiniti, Audi and other BMW models. I would not shy away from a 2011 with low mileage if you can pick it up at a good price. Just make sure it was built later in the model. Probably some good deals out in the market right now.
Thanks for the reply. My build is April 2011, hopefully its late enough build to incorporate all the software updates.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:47 AM
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Sam this is what i got for 48500 out the door:

car has 29,800 miles, one owner, clean car fax, California driven

2011 535i CPO 100K warranty: with the following options

PREMIUM PKG
SPORT PKG -inc: 19" alloy wheels with new tires.
8-SPEED SPORT AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
REAR-VIEW CAMERA
HEATED FRONT SEATS
ANTHRACITE WOOD INTERIOR TRIM
FRONT & REAR PARK DISTANCE CONTROL
HARD DRIVE-BASED NAVIGATION SYSTEM
SIRIUS SATELLITE RADIO
IPOD & USB ADAPTER

ill post some pics later

First off CONGRATS !! on the car. I've decided to get mine as well. I think its too good of a deal. I'll def post pics today.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:00 AM
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Here It Is !!

Thanks guys for all your thoughts !! I pulled the trig.

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Old 01-10-2013, 11:05 AM
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Congrats, Its called the light wood trim, did you buy the tire and wheel insurance?
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:06 AM
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Very nice congrats Sam,,, love the color of leather.

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Old 01-10-2013, 11:10 AM
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Thanks X. I know you told me to move on but the heart won out, I think the pocketbook also agreed. I did not get the wheel & tire ins. I am thinking of changing from the RFT's & get the Mich SS. Also getting the 351 wheels. I found take offs for $900 without rubber & no tpm. Any thoughts on the wheels & price
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:11 AM
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Very nice congrats Sam,,, love the color of leather.
Thanks so much. Very excited. It drives like a dream. No issues so far, fingers crossed !!
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:44 AM
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Thanks X. I know you told me to move on but the heart won out, I think the pocketbook also agreed. I did not get the wheel & tire ins. I am thinking of changing from the RFT's & get the Mich SS. Also getting the 351 wheels. I found take offs for $900 without rubber & no tpm. Any thoughts on the wheels & price
The 351 rims are nice and the price is pretty cheap, just make sure they are not warp. A lot of warp BMW rims out there on sale, buyer beware.
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