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I'm doing a spare tire with a Maxxis 145/70 R17 for my 2011 335D M sport. I'm wondering if a TPM sensor should be put inside the wheel. I know it's only for a temporary ride but the little screen thing will be going off while one of the 4 sensors is not present. Is this to be expected and I should not worry with the sensor. It might not even fit on the 17x4 rim i'm going to use. The 145/70 R17 pretty much nails the height matching compared to the normal tires which are 225/40R17 front and 255/35R17 rear. The biggest deviation between the two is only .093" or 2.4 mm. The front tire is taller than the rear. The rear tire is only .035" or 0.9 mm taller than the spare. So, the match is best for the most important spot.

Here is little different twist I'm doing though. I'm going with an E53 X5 scissor jack with a long jack handle. I'm getting the jack out of a auto salvage on Ebay ($50 +free shipping) and purchasing the long handle from local dealer for $15. I still need a 17 mm lug wrench.
Wheel & valve stem $82
Maxxis tire $150 ( i got hit with $11 texas sales tax)
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$313 and counting. I didn't need a centering ring as the 17" rim fits well. I'm hoping to get a 17 mm wrench for less than $25
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Reviving thread with updated information

Just an update on this thread for those of you who want a simple solution.

Genuine BMW F10/F11 Series Space Saver Spare Wheel Kit is available on www.ebay.co.uk web site from a BMW/Mini Dealer.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1210636074...84.m1439.l2648

Part number 36 11 2 159 862

Total cost with shipping is around $550. (Shipping is about $110 U.S.)

This is the best thing I have seen, it includes the tire, wheel, jack, gloves, etc. and even includes the bag (around $100 alone) to store everything in the trunk.

I am not sure why BMW won't sell this in the U.S. Even if you keep run flats, the kit offers piece of mind on long road trips.
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Just an update on this thread for those of you who want a simple solution.

Genuine BMW F10/F11 Series Space Saver Spare Wheel Kit is available on www.ebay.co.uk web site from a BMW/Mini Dealer.

Part number 36 11 2 159 862

Total cost with shipping is around $550. (Shipping is about $110 U.S.)

This is the best thing I have seen, it includes the tire, wheel, jack, gloves, etc. and even includes the bag (around $100 alone) to store everything in the trunk.

I am not sure why BMW won't sell this in the U.S. Even if you keep run flats, the kit offers piece of mind on long road trips.
Clearer pic of the kit.
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Just an update on this thread for those of you who want a simple solution.

Genuine BMW F10/F11 Series Space Saver Spare Wheel Kit is available on www.ebay.co.uk web site from a BMW/Mini Dealer.

Part number 36 11 2 159 862

Total cost with shipping is around $550. (Shipping is about $110 U.S.)

This is the best thing I have seen, it includes the tire, wheel, jack, gloves, etc. and even includes the bag (around $100 alone) to store everything in the trunk.

I am not sure why BMW won't sell this in the U.S. Even if you keep run flats, the kit offers piece of mind on long road trips.
Nice!

Guess it took BMW in Europe some time to see the need. I had sent their engineering group in Germany via a contact I made here, the parts diagram for the Panamera spare which is essentially what they are now offering.

Interesting that BMUSA is so committed to RFT and blind to this need for a spare that they don't even make it available.
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Total cost with shipping is around $550. (Shipping is about $110 U.S.)
Still seems expensive, especially for something that should be included with the vehicle.

My 2008 E60 has a full size spare under the floor of the trunk. Just lift up on the floor and there it is. It fits nicely. There is enough room. It has run flat tires (well, it did until I swapped them out).

What is under the floor of the trunk of the F10 that prevents them from putting a spare there or us from putting a space saver spare there? Is there no space under the floor of the trunk anymore?
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Still seems expensive, especially for something that should be included with the vehicle.

My 2008 E60 has a full size spare under the floor of the trunk. Just lift up on the floor and there it is. It fits nicely. There is enough room. It has run flat tires (well, it did until I swapped them out).

What is under the floor of the trunk of the F10 that prevents them from putting a spare there or us from putting a space saver spare there? Is there no space under the floor of the trunk anymore?
There is only a small compartment under the carpet near the bumper, about 1 cubic foot to store maybe the mobility kit with compressor which is what I have in there.

The rest of the carpet floor won't come up so I am not sure what is under there.

THe kit is a little pricey but when you consider you can buy non run flats for $800-$1000 installed vs. $2k, it pays for itself quickly.
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The rest of the carpet floor won't come up so I am not sure what is under there.
Maybe that's where they put the anvils they used to increase the F10's weight by 400 pounds over the E60.
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Still seems expensive, especially for something that should be included with the vehicle.

My 2008 E60 has a full size spare under the floor of the trunk. Just lift up on the floor and there it is. It fits nicely. There is enough room. It has run flat tires (well, it did until I swapped them out).

What is under the floor of the trunk of the F10 that prevents them from putting a spare there or us from putting a space saver spare there? Is there no space under the floor of the trunk anymore?
The sad thing is that if you remove the floor, you'll find the former spare tire well is still alive and well - it looks like the same floor stamping as my old E60. BMW relocated the battery from the right side of the trunk and gave us a useless storage cubby, and popped the battery and some bracing in the tire well. They couldn't fill it all up so they gave us the rest as a small storage compartment.

Progress?

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Progress?
That looks like a jumbled mess.

I thought the battery being in the compartment to the right was a great place for it.

This is not progress at all.
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Thank you for the informative write up!!!!. I've totaled my X5 a few months ago and kept the spare tire. I can go ahead and finally find some use for it.
I've also bought 4 Hub Centric Rings. I only need 1, Anyone want one for 4 dollars shipped?

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I carry a good tire patch kit, a good air compressor and cross my fingers. I've only had one true blow out in my driving career covering hundreds of thousands of miles of among the worst roads in the country. The flip side of that coin is that because of where I live, BMW assist is only minutes away in most cases.
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BMW called me today with a quality survey and I brought this and several other things up
I doubt it was actually BMW and I doubt they care. Probably just marketing research.

Come on . You bought the car without a spare. Does it really matter that much to you? Apparently not.
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Spare tire, my solution

I went a little differently but ended up with basically the same type spare solution. I kept the E60 space saver spare from our 535i when I traded it in on the 'new' F10. The car had almost 140k miles and the dealer didn't care if it had a spare or not. I did leave the one-legged jack and lug wrench in the trunk, they are almost useless anyway.

I had a scissors jack from a previous BMW run-flat situation that I originally bought at a junk yard for $20. I have a 1/2" pull handle with a 17mm socket on it and all that stores in the cubby under the trunk mat. I bought a generic spare tire cover from Amazon and the spare sits in the floor of the trunk taking up room, but where we drive there are places that have little service available, and I've changed tires for over 50 years so I'm good at it now. I would suggest looking in salvage yards for a BMW space saver spare, most yards pull them out of the cars and have them stacked up in their warehouse. Shouldn't be much more than $100 I would think.

I realized how useless the single leg BMW jack was last month when we picked up a nail in our E60 Sport left rear tire. I successfully jacked up the corner and removed the flat, but when I started to mount the spare I had to raise the car a bit more. That's when it fell of the jack, so I ended up calling AAA to come out and jack up the car so we could get the spare on. I told the service tech to put his jack under the front jacking point and it would raise the rear sufficiently, which he did. I was in a level asphalt parking lot and I hate to think how poorly that excuse for a jack would have performed on the side of the road in dirt/mud/sand.
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The problems with the 245/40-19 Goodyear LS2 were well known to me from this forum before i even ordered my car. But since there were really no options to change them, figured I would just see how it went - 300 miles to first bubble - that was in April with no replacements available. After a lot of conversation with my Goodyear retailer and Goodyear corporate, they replaced all four tires with conventional Michelin Pilot Super Sports. Huge improvement in ride and handling.

Then the issue of what if I get a flat? Ordered BMW Mobility Kit, which easily fits under the floor of the trunk. Signed up for AAA. Ordered the BMW jack and tool kit. Put a full size spare in the trunk - though not happy with the amount of room left.

I began a determined quest to find a compact spare that could work. It began as a fruitless exercise, compact tire manufacturers (Continental and Vredestein) pretty much wouldn't even discuss - somehow liability concerns prohibit them. Managed to get to management at BMWNA but no luck, nothing offered in this or I think any market and nothing planned. Phone calls and tens of email were all dead-ends.

Then I came across a thread about creating a spare from various parts for an E92 M3 by Tom Tarzian and GregW / Oregon here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253769
Inspired by what they had come up with- I wondered if it could work for my F10.

Well it turns out that it seems to work with only a different tire than they were using in order to match the stock tires OD!
This is of course is not approved by BMW and I make absolutely no warranty or claims of fitness, but it seems to work for me. Did a couple mile test drive and all was fine.

Keep in mind that the reference thread started 2-1/2 years ago and some prices have changed and I'm listing some different sources as well.


Parts Details:

BMW 36-11-6-768-861 black steel wheel (this is for the X5/X6 compact spare); $88.68 list 70.94 plus $14.95 shipping at getBMWparts.com
BMW 36-12-1-116-326 rubber valve stem, $2.85 list 2.28 at getBMWparts.com
Centering Ring (centric ring) 74.1-72.56 mm many sources on the web; in plastic tirerack.com or aluminum justforwheels.com (had to buy four at $45.99- so three left).
Maxxis 155/70-18 26.54 112M TP10676000, 26.54 diameter- slightly shy of new OE tires- as regular tires are worn will match up, direct from Maxxis $139 delivered, go to estore on maxxis.com then automotive tires then compact spare tires. They ship from GA at least for east coast.
as an alternative, Tirerack has a Pirelli 135/80-18 at 26.5 diameter at $95 plus shipping.
mount and road force balance $20
So for $293.16 I have a compact spare that fits my 535i xDrive.

For a neater look and to cover the flat when it comes off, I ordered the Tire Rack Seasonal Tire Tote, a pair is $19.95

If I'm in an uncomfortable location, can always call AAA and get them to put on the spare but otherwise the BMW jack works well on a level hard surface in my test.
BMW Jack Set, MSRP $161.53 for $129.26 plus shipping at http://www.bmwpartsforless.com/index...eries-interior This fits inside the spare wheel.

My Process:

I had posted a number of times to see if anyone with a X5/X6 could try their spare on a F10, also posted in the M3 thread if someone could try on a F10 but never saw a response. So after a few months I went ahead and ordered the wheel from getBMWparts.com They keep it in stock so it came quickly.

Tried the wheel on the front, it cleared the brake parts with no spacer needed, hub was too large but expected that, centric ring solves the difference. Checked the stock lug bolt lengths and they seemed fine, I can get my hand behind and they catch all the treads and go beyond just a touch but less than the OE 351M wheels.

For a tire, I called TireRack about what they had available, they stock a Pirelli 135/80-18 which is close to the stock diameter. From the M3 thread although a different size they referenced Maxxis, a 155/70-18 is a smige closer to the target in diameter and had a higher weight load rating. So went ahead and ordered the tire from Maxxis. I was going to order the centering ring from 1010tires.com but their website was not responding to taking the order. Googled and ordered from justforwheels.com. I wanted metal- though that's just me. Tirerack has them in plastic as well, I'm sure it's just as good and a lot less money. Used clear RTV silicone to tack the ring to the wheel.
FYI OE OD - 245/40-19 OD 26.72 inches, 245/45-18 26.68, 275/35-19 26.58, 275/40-18 26.66
Took the bits to the tire store for mounting and balancing with the Hunter Road Force - overkill for a spare but I've gone this far. Went lock to lock to check clearances, two mile test drive.
Strapped it on one side to one of the hooks in the back of the trunk.

I think that's it.
Great solution! How do you address the X-Drive needing matched wheel diameters down to 2/32nd issue? I understand that if your tires on the X-Drive system are mismatched to over 2/32nds...you can damage your X-Drive..
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My understanding is xDrive is not so critical, nothing like the older mechanical all wheel drive systems. I've done the math and it's very close, especially considering wear. New specified 18" are 26.68 inches in diameter, 19" are 26.56. Maxxis I used are 26.54 - so not to worry.

I've used my spare for once for about 40 miles. Also with the low profile tires had to replace tires where the match was new tires with half worn tires. No sign of any issues.
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Concerning the BMW 36 11 2 159 862 36112159862 emergency spare tire kit: I have received one of these and it is nicely put together. But one problem. The jack kits used to fit inside the wheels but now the jack is too long and will need to be stowed elsewhere. [Opening the jack does not shorten the length.] I will also be carrying a compressor and tire repair kit. The inflate-a-flat kits with goo in a can can destroy TPMS units, so will not do that. Now waiting on 535dX to arrive.
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Concerning the BMW 36 11 2 159 862 36112159862 emergency spare tire kit: I have received one of these and it is nicely put together. But one problem. The jack kits used to fit inside the wheels but now the jack is too long and will need to be stowed elsewhere. [Opening the jack does not shorten the length.] I will also be carrying a compressor and tire repair kit. The inflate-a-flat kits with goo in a can can destroy TPMS units, so will not do that. Now waiting on 535dX to arrive.
I have the same kit. I placed the jack in my tire bag and laid the tire over top and zipped the bag...And "Wah Lah"...It lays flat in my trunk and to cant tell the jack is in the bag.
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I have the same kit. I placed the jack in my tire bag and laid the tire over top and zipped the bag...And "Wah Lah"...It lays flat in my trunk and to cant tell the jack is in the bag.
So the jack was changed! Does your jack look like the one pictured?

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